Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Russian doomsday cult calls credit cards satanic
http://www.reuters.com ^

Posted on 03/31/2008 11:31:29 AM PDT by marthemaria

NIKOLSKOE, Russia (Reuters) - A Russian doomsday cult sheltering in a bunker say credit cards and food packaging bar codes are satanic, the official negotiating the release of children from the group said on Monday.

Around 30 followers, including four children, from across Russia and neighboring Belarus met last October and barricaded themselves into a hillside to escape an apocalypse their preacher says is looming in either April or May.

"For us right now, what's most important is the children," said Alexander Yelatontsev, an official from Russia's Penza Oblast region, who has been the chief point of contact for the cult since the siege began.

"They have burned their passports and say that all plastic (credit) cards and strip codes on food packaging are the work of Satan," he told reporters.

Yelatontsev said the people underground were in contact with him regularly, and would accept food only if it had not been processed with modern factory equipment.

"Right now they are asking for a cow so that they can have fresh, boiled milk that is not processed," he said.

He said progress was slow but local authorities were negotiating with the group to leave their refuge.

"In as much as their beliefs have been formed over a long period of time, convincing them to come out is not going to happen quickly," he said

On Friday the entrance to the bunker partially collapsed after rain and melting snow soaked the muddy hillside and the ground gave way.

Seven women were isolated from the rest of the group by the mudslide, and had to emerge from their shelter and seek refuge in a nearby home. The bunker is near the village of Nikolskoe, 750 km (450 miles) southeast of Moscow.

Russian authorities said the splinter sect of the Russian Orthodox church was formed by preacher Pyotr Kuznetsov, who convinced members the world would end in April.

Kuznetsov did not join his followers underground, saying God had given him different tasks. He was arrested but psychiatrists determined he was unfit to stand trial.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: creditcards; cult; doomsday

1 posted on 03/31/2008 11:31:29 AM PDT by marthemaria
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: marthemaria
HaHaHa...

Shoes - Matching Shoes - get your Matching Shoes here!

2 posted on 03/31/2008 11:32:55 AM PDT by Chili Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

“...credit cards and food packaging bar codes are satanic...,”

They’re right!


3 posted on 03/31/2008 11:34:21 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

This explains why my husband’s head spins like Linda Blair every time the MasterCard bill arrives.

;^)


4 posted on 03/31/2008 11:34:51 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

As I’m cutting my credit cards up, I’m inclined to agree.


5 posted on 03/31/2008 11:35:12 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

I can agree that credit cards are possessed by the devil.

Oh wait, that was my ex wife who possessed them.


6 posted on 03/31/2008 11:35:29 AM PDT by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ctdonath2

I think they’re evil, but it has nothing to do with the bar code.


7 posted on 03/31/2008 11:36:01 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (As government expands, liberty contracts. Ronald W. Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria
Russian doomsday cult calls credit cards satanic

They have Bank of America in Russia?

8 posted on 03/31/2008 11:37:03 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ctdonath2

My credit card was stolen. When I got the next statement, the thief charged a lot less than my wife, so I let him keep it.


9 posted on 03/31/2008 11:38:28 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

“Kuznetsov did not join his followers underground, saying God had given him different tasks.”
Not to be suspicious but I wonder if those other tasks involve testing PINs at ATMs or dining on donated prepackaged foods.


10 posted on 03/31/2008 11:39:07 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria
No, rather, it is the evil credit card companies who prey upon unsuspecting people and slip credit cards in their pockets. Once in their pockets these credit cards pull their new owner into stores and forces them - possession like - to spend way beyond their means. In reality, I think the credit cards are simply jealous of the SUVs. SUVs are driving people off the cliff and running others over. Credit cards want in on the act too! They want to force people to spend!! It's a crime and Congress should step in and protect us!!
11 posted on 03/31/2008 11:39:59 AM PDT by Obadiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BlazingArizona

Well, it used to be the Bank of Italy before it was BofA, why not Russia next?


12 posted on 03/31/2008 11:41:23 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

how did our kooks manage to get all the way to Russia??

I thought we were the only ones who had the black helicopter crowd. Hmm. Maybe Russia really is becoming a true democracy.


13 posted on 03/31/2008 11:42:13 AM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Obadiah

Nor should the credit card companies discriminate against the unemployed. They should be required to give them cards and a shredder machine so they can cut them up free of charge.


14 posted on 03/31/2008 11:42:19 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: DancesWithBolsheviks

LOL,You might be on to something there


15 posted on 03/31/2008 11:42:32 AM PDT by marthemaria (i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

This is what happens when people take Chuck Palahniuk too seriously.

16 posted on 03/31/2008 11:42:36 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Obadiah

The cards get it from associating while in your pocket with the evil guns, which spontaneously go on shooting rampages, killing innocent yoots who was never involved in gangs before.


17 posted on 03/31/2008 11:43:40 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

Mount Carmel II?


18 posted on 03/31/2008 11:44:03 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

I agree with the credit card part.


19 posted on 03/31/2008 11:44:47 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

I find it sad that they are asking for a cow from the authorities so they can have milk, too bad that they are against modern food otherwise could have sent them in a box of Oreos too.


20 posted on 03/31/2008 11:46:58 AM PDT by bankcritic (Never spend your money before you have it. - Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria
"Woe to you, Oh Earth and Sea, for the Devil sends the
beast with wrath, because he knows the time is short...
Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the
beast for it is a human number, its number is Six hundred and sixty six."


I left alone my mind was blank
I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind


What did I see can I believe that what I saw
that night was real and not just fantasy


Just what I saw in my old dreams were they
reflections of my warped mind staring back at me


'Cos in my dream it's always there the evil face that twists my mind
and brings me to despair


The night was black was no use holding back
'Cos I just had to see was someone watching me
In the mist dark figures move and twist
Was this all for real or some kind of hell
666 the number of the beast
Hell and fire was spawned to be released


Torches blazed and sacred chants were praised
As they start to cry hands held to the sky
In the night the fires burning bright
The ritual has begun Satan's work is done
666 the number of the beast
Sacrifice is going on tonight


This can't go on I must inform the law
Can this still be real or just some crazy dream
But I feel drawn towards the evil chanting hordes
They seem to mesmerize me ... can't avoid their eyes
666 the number of the beast
666 the one for you and me


I'm coming back I will return
And I'll possess your body and I'll make you burn
I have the fire I have the force
I have the power to make my evil take it's course

-Iron Maiden


21 posted on 03/31/2008 11:53:50 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

The devil made me use my American Express!


22 posted on 03/31/2008 11:58:37 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Bill Clinton: HILLARY!'s other big ass)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Emperor Palpatine

“The Big Money”

By Neil Peart, music by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson

Big money goes around the world
Big money underground
Big money got a mighty voice
Big money make no sound
Big money pull a million strings
Big money hold the prize
Big money weave a mighty web
Big money draw the flies

Sometimes pushing people around
Sometimes pulling out the rug
Sometimes pushing all the buttons
Sometimes pulling out the plug
It’s the power and the glory
It’s a war in paradise
It’s a Cinderella story
On a tumble of the dice

Big money goes around the world
Big money take a cruise
Big money leave a mighty wake
Big money leave a bruise
Big money make a million dreams
Big money spin big deals
Big money make a mighty head
Big money spin big wheels

Sometimes building ivory towers
Sometimes knocking castles down
Sometimes building you a stairway
Lock you underground
It’s that old time religion
It’s the kingdom they would rule
It’s the fool on television
Getting paid to play the fool

Big money goes around the world
Big money give and take
Big money done a power of good
Big money make mistakes
Big money got a heavy hand
Big money take control
Big money got a mean streak
Big money got no soul...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urmKhAulBqM


23 posted on 03/31/2008 12:11:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

24 posted on 03/31/2008 12:16:39 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria
I'll stipulate that these folks are nuts. However:

the official negotiating the release of children from the group said on Monday.

Let us suppose that you had decided that the Government was completely in cahoots with Satan, and the TEOTW was coming in the next few weeks.

Why would you even consider handing your children over to the government agents of Satan? That would be crazy!

25 posted on 03/31/2008 12:17:49 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

“For us right now, what’s most important is the children,”

OK, now WHO does this remind you of?!


26 posted on 03/31/2008 12:40:37 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

This wouldn’t have anything to do with barcodes having the number *6* as the first, middle and last numbers, would it?


27 posted on 03/31/2008 1:06:51 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Still Thinking
"The cards get it from associating while in your pocket with the evil guns, which spontaneously go on shooting rampages, killing innocent yoots who was never involved in gangs before..."

...while joyriding in those murderous SUV's, talking and texting on their cellphones on their way to eat all that nasty, killer saturated fat..."

28 posted on 03/31/2008 1:09:39 PM PDT by redhead (Come ON, global warming!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Rennes Templar

29 posted on 03/31/2008 1:33:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

Dave Ramsey fans, no doubt.


30 posted on 03/31/2008 2:11:25 PM PDT by Radio Free Tuscaloosa (God Bless...America!! - Adm. Jeremiah Denton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

;>)


31 posted on 03/31/2008 4:45:44 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs by facts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Choose Ye This Day

Credit cards are no more evil then guns or knives or hammers or any other tool.

You can use them or abuse them. I use mine a lot for the convenience and the benefits I get ( flyer miles ). I also pay off the FULL amount, without fail every month. Where’s the “evil”?


32 posted on 03/31/2008 4:49:47 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Kozak

The banks themselves are the ones engaged in dirty dealings—offering easy credit to high school and college students, and others who have no business getting into debt.

Have you ever heard of the Universal Default Provision?

Credit card companies that wait until after your payment is late to process it, so they can charge you a late fee...

No, the card is amoral. But the business practices of many of the debt merchants are far from honorable.


33 posted on 03/31/2008 7:25:52 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (As government expands, liberty contracts. Ronald W. Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

Even a stopped clock... ;-)


34 posted on 03/31/2008 8:07:52 PM PDT by glorgau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria
Russian doomsday cult calls credit cards satanic

They got one thing right.

35 posted on 04/04/2008 2:49:42 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: marthemaria

Bar codes. Wait until they encounter RFID chips.


36 posted on 04/04/2008 2:51:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson