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Iraqi Police Fired For Failing To Fight
Red Orbit p- UPI ^ | 3-31-2008

Posted on 03/31/2008 2:15:02 PM PDT by blam

Iraqi Police Fired for Failing to Fight

Posted on: Monday, 31 March 2008, 12:00 CDT

The apparent thousands of Iraqi policemen who refused to fight against Shiite militias have been relieved of duty, the Iraqi interior minister said Monday.

The decision by Jawad al-Boulani covers units operating in Shiite neighborhoods in Baghdad and the predominately Shiite areas in southern Iraq, including Basra.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered Iraqi forces to crack down on militias affiliated with cleric Moqtada Sadr and other influential Shiite leaders, sparking widespread violence that rippled throughout the country last week.

Thousands of Iraqi police officers refused to fight the militias and several Iraqi army units joined their forces in Baghdad, the Iraqi daily, Azzaman said.

The move, the newspaper said, may boost the ranks of the Shiite militias as those relieved of duty may join their forces instead.

Source: United Press International


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: basra; failing; fired; iraq; iraqiarmy; iraqipolice; police; sadr
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1 posted on 03/31/2008 2:15:04 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

You go boy.


2 posted on 03/31/2008 2:16:59 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: blam

The eternal mess of the mideast continues. It will always be about clans, tribes, sects and corruption, and it ain’t going to end.


3 posted on 03/31/2008 2:18:35 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( Clinton/Obama .. Obama/ Clinton ... Mc Cain/Obama .. Mc Cain/Clinton ... What a Choice!? Puleeeze!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Slowly but surly they will fix themselves.


4 posted on 03/31/2008 2:18:49 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Red6
Slowly but surly they will fix themselves.

Who cares if they are surly.

5 posted on 03/31/2008 2:20:17 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: blam
So if they flip, you sure know who they are and where to find them.

I do agree that the new forces should have suspended them for 90 days or such, now you might have to expend resources policing the police.

Islam, for all it's claims of being many things honorable, usually seems to either turn tail and run, lie, cheat, steal, and bribe.

6 posted on 03/31/2008 2:23:11 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: blam

“The apparent thousands of Iraqi policemen...”

Another factless reference.


7 posted on 03/31/2008 2:23:32 PM PDT by Eurale
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To: blam

The Sadrist infiltrators just showed their colors. Good that they get rid of ‘em.


8 posted on 03/31/2008 2:24:31 PM PDT by SolidWood (Moqtada Al-Sadr has to die.)
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To: blam
The decision by Jawad al-Boulani covers units operating in Shiite neighborhoods in Baghdad and the predominately Shiite areas in southern Iraq, including Basra.

It's al-Bolani and there are thousands more who are willing and ready to attend the Police College and fight for Iraq. No shortage of sherta recruits.

Iraq is standing strong on this and if they stick to their guns (bad pun unintended), they will turn a major corner on the path to peace and stability here.

9 posted on 03/31/2008 2:24:36 PM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: Red6

“Slowly but surly they will fix themselves.”

Uh huh, sure they will. I’m estimating 1500 years but I’m a bit of a pessimist when it comes to the ME. On the good side, maybe 150. So how much more blood and treasure can we waste? What’s a few more trillion in debt for my kids to pay off?


10 posted on 03/31/2008 2:25:10 PM PDT by Uhaul
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To: dfwgator

LOL

Surely


11 posted on 03/31/2008 2:25:48 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: blam

Nutjob must have sent Mookie a ton of money to meet this new payroll.


12 posted on 03/31/2008 2:26:10 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Eurale
Another factless reference.

True. At the Ministry of Interior, they're saying about 400. Total.

I should know. I was over there this morning. :)

13 posted on 03/31/2008 2:31:50 PM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: Allegra

I hope you’re right and I’m wrong. I know there are many many Iraqis that want peace but my professional assessment is that when we pull out - even if it is 10 years from now - it is going to be nothing but a bloodbath. This time I suspect the shia will win out. The Kurds, as usual, will get screwed.

In the meantime we are wasting huge sums of money and too much blood. We are just putting off the inevitable.


14 posted on 03/31/2008 2:31:59 PM PDT by Uhaul
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To: Uhaul
I've been watching from the 50-yardline for over four years. In fact, I have been a participant. I've seen much worse times than this past week and I've seen amazing times, such as the first elections and the peace that began to descend around August or September of last year.

And all along, I have seen progress. I have seen a majority of people who want peace, freedom and prosperity. I have gotten to know these people, both good and bad.

I have seen how the media twists, distorts and outright lies about anything that comes out of Iraq. And I have seen, sadly, how many people just take their word as gospel.

I will return to Iraq as a tourist within ten years and I will visit museums, shops and restaurants without wearing body armor or a weapon. Of this, I have full confidence.

I have made predictions on here before that have been flamed, but I have been right.

As always, I stand by my observations, regardless of what the naysayers have to say.

15 posted on 03/31/2008 2:41:15 PM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: Uhaul
I grew up in Germany so I like using them as an example.

The US handed over control, i.e. the Constabulary ended in 1952, seven years of Allied military direct control. For more information see links provided: http://www.history.army.mil/lineage/Constab-IP.htm

The Bundeswehr came along in 1955.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr

The German Mark came in 1948.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Mark

The German Constitution came in 1948.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grundgesetz_f%C3%BCr_die_Bundesrepublik_Deutschland

The first German Chancellor came in 1949.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeskanzler_(Deutschland)

The first German post war courts, first elections, opening of airports, etc., all came LATER than in Iraq.

Things are going in all reality quite fast, you simply don't have a historical benchmark nor a concept of what right and wrong looks like. If someone tells you “XYZ” and it sounds good, you’ll go with that idea. Whatever the “mood” or “feeling” of the time is, that’s the opinion many share. From the Balkans to Korea, these sort of things do not go quickly and the S. Korean economy didn't really take off until 25 years after the war ended. Hell, they weren’t even really a democracy for many years after the war. Few would claim Germany to be a failure today, and that's a nation that does as little as possible around the world when it comes to securing our collective interests, a nation that more or less mooches.

16 posted on 03/31/2008 2:42:22 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Eurale
"Another factless reference.

How do you know if it's factless? Given the large # of bathists who were spared and allowed to become cops, what's so hard to believe about thousands of them not doing anything to help or even switching sides?

They should have been executed then and they should be executed now. Maliki will see them again when they think he's weak.

17 posted on 03/31/2008 2:43:04 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: blam

Sometimes I think the Iraqi’s actually WANT to FAIL.


18 posted on 03/31/2008 2:43:10 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: Allegra
Iraq is standing strong on this and if they stick to their guns (bad pun unintended), they will turn a major corner on the path to peace and stability here.

What about the Bushee DEMOCRACY agenda? A benevolent dictator will bring peace and stability. Come to think of it, that's what Iraq needs right now.

19 posted on 03/31/2008 2:45:18 PM PDT by trane250
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To: Slump Tester; Eurale
How do you know if it's factless?

Read Post #13.

Given the large # of bathists who were spared and allowed to become cops, what's so hard to believe about thousands of them not doing anything to help or even switching sides?

The defectors were not Ba'athists. They were Mehdi Army. Entirely, utterly and completely a different thing.

De-Ba'athification was only passed recently and only partially. There would not have been enough time to get that many former Ba'athists recruited and trained into the Iraq Police.

20 posted on 03/31/2008 2:48:34 PM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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