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'Mother's pride' is laid to rest (in Philly - black gang beats a white to death - Obama silent)
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | April 2nd, 2008 | Dafney Tales and David Gamacorta

Posted on 04/02/2008 7:23:32 AM PDT by 2banana

'Mother's pride' is laid to rest By DAFNEY TALES & DAVID GAMBACORTA Philadelphia Daily News

LONG AFTER the final hymn had been sung and the last rose had been laid across her son's bronze casket, Sharon Conroy sat in her quiet home in Lansdowne trying to make sense of it all.

Her mind drifted through a steady stream of tender memories of her son, Sean Patrick Conroy.

She could see him as an eager, grinning Cub Scout, then as the kid who went to dinner and a movie with her every Friday night until it seemed uncool at age 15.

She remembered his spontaneous move to California after high school to become an animator for Disney, then his return to the Philadelphia area, where he matured into his "mother's pride," working as a mentor in North Philly and helping out with charities.

He found a job that he loved, running a Center City Starbucks, fell in love with the woman of his dreams and, at age 36, planned on a full and happy life. "This was the gentle man I was lucky enough to call my son," Sharon Conroy said.

Then it all fell apart on an underground SEPTA platform in Center City last Wednesday afternoon, when four teens inexplicably attacked Conroy's son, kicking and punching him until he had a fatal asthma attack, police said.

Police arrested Kinta Stanton, 16, a 10th-grader at Simon Gratz High School, and charged him as an adult with murder. Stanton has refused to identify the other youths, who also attend Simon Gratz and remain on the loose, a police source said.

Last night, people who answered the door at Stanton's home on Smedley Street near Griscom told a reporter that they didn't know him.

The fatal attack, which investigators said had been unprovoked, has incensed citizens across the city, from everyday SEPTA riders to Conroy's friends and relatives.

They wonder why no one has turned in the other teens, or what could have prompted them in the first place to attack an innocent guy who was known for his gentle, easygoing nature.

Through it all, Sharon Conroy said she remains calm in this tumultuous sea of anger and pain.

"It's not to say that I'm not angry," she said yesterday, hours after her son was buried at Ss. Peter and Paul Cemetery, in Marple Township. "But my son was a gentle person and would have wanted us to get all the facts."

Conroy said nearly 200 teary-eyed mourners packed St. Cyril's Church, in Lansdowne, for her son's funeral, and the funeral procession included 170 cars.

Starbucks employees were among the attendees, including Mike Rose, a district manager, who talked about Conroy as helpful and compassionate.

Old friends from his Cub Scout days showed up, and a former employer from California sent a two-page euology about how "gentle and polite" Sean Patrick Conroy was.

On Easter Sunday, Conroy became engaged to his longtime girlfriend, Stevany Johar. Yesterday, Johar released a statement through Sharon Conroy, which read in part:

"I still cannot accept his death in so many ways. Everything reminds me of him. Part of me still believes that he will come home, give me a kiss and also a hug like he always did."

In the week since Conroy's death, SEPTA's subway lines have been flooded with more than two dozen members of the Guardian Angels, the civilian watchdog group that was founded in 1979 in response to violence on New York's subway system.

"SEPTA riders are terrified," said Curtis Sliwa, founder and president of the organization. "These kids come on like a tsunami onto trains and trolleys and start acting wild."

The Guardian Angels will patrol the Broad Street line and the Market-Frankford El Monday through Friday, from 1 to 5 p.m., to address commuters' fears. *

Daily News staff writers Mensah Dean and Kirstin Lindermayer contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: black; crime; gangs; getwhitey; nobama; obama; philadelphia; racism; stopsnitching; youths
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To: societygirl
And this happened where?

What state, again?

What year?

What city?

Did he die?

101 posted on 04/02/2008 9:21:24 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: Polynikes
I hear some of these whack jobs threatening to riot if Obama WINS. They say they will “own” the white man.
103 posted on 04/02/2008 9:23:08 AM PDT by societygirl
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To: ArrogantBustard

SEPTA can issue all the rules they - MY LIFE AND MY RIGHT TO DEFEND IT trumps their rules.

Period.


105 posted on 04/02/2008 9:25:23 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: Larebil
“When are black people going stop murdering people?”

More like when are they going to stop murdering themselves.

No. The original poster said it correctly.

107 posted on 04/02/2008 9:27:39 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: societygirl
In your experience, perhaps, but it doesn't make it universally true. My experience tells me most blacks aren't that way at all.

In my 40 years of living around, going to school with, worshiping with, and working with blacks of all shapes and sizes, I've had problems with exactly TWO. I've been to more black churches than most blacks, and NEVER felt or heard any anti-white sentiment.

110 posted on 04/02/2008 9:36:56 AM PDT by opus86
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To: societygirl
I was anti-gun before that little incident.

Anti-gun...but you were packing anyway.

Sure!

B.S.

111 posted on 04/02/2008 9:37:29 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: Osage Orange

Nope, I was just spooked. Try being threatened.


112 posted on 04/02/2008 9:50:25 AM PDT by societygirl
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To: opus86

You are lucky.


113 posted on 04/02/2008 9:50:50 AM PDT by societygirl
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Ping!
114 posted on 04/02/2008 9:51:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: societygirl; Osage Orange
I was anti-gun before that little incident.

LOL!! That's three-dollar bill phony.

You're a brazen liar - quit digging that hole you're in right now!

115 posted on 04/02/2008 9:52:27 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Osage Orange

No I’m not. You are just in denial.


117 posted on 04/02/2008 10:02:31 AM PDT by societygirl
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To: societygirl
Good morning.
“Just honest. From my own experience.”

No offense, but this sounds like landing at Tuzla, ducking sniper fire.

Michael Frazier

118 posted on 04/02/2008 10:06:18 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
And plenty of predominantly white churches preach the same sort of crap in the context of "all white people are racist", ...

Sorry, but I would have to disagree with you on that. I have been a preacher for man, many years. I have preached in Southern Baptist churches, northern churches and churches in the middle, I know, literally hundreds of white preachers, very few black preachers, but hundreds of white preachers. I know of no such preaching as you are referring to.

119 posted on 04/02/2008 10:06:56 AM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment!)
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To: brazzaville

Nope, it happened. Scary.


120 posted on 04/02/2008 10:07:04 AM PDT by societygirl
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To: wilco200
"This murder was clearly taken out of context."

Bears repeating.

121 posted on 04/02/2008 10:07:22 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: societygirl
Good morning.
“I was anti-gun before that little incident.”

How is it that an anti-gun woman in gun unfriendly Los Angeles happen to be carrying?

Michael Frazier

122 posted on 04/02/2008 10:11:09 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: 2banana
Blacks are Palestinians. Reverend Wright is a mullah. His screeds are the Friday hate-filled rants in the mosques all over the world. "Don't snitch" is Taqiyya.

Still, Wright speaks English. The mullahs speak hate in Arabic and make pleasantries in English. Wright speaks hate and pleasantries both in English. Hooray for Wright speaking out! Because he at least is like the dog that barks before biting.

I am happy there are fellows like Joe Truitt and his brother. Hooray for the Truitt brothers!

123 posted on 04/02/2008 10:34:09 AM PDT by bvw
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To: brazzaville
Its all based on where you live. I see Calipornians all the time on this site ranting about those "criminal" Mexicans, whereas in this part of the world, the Mexicans are pikers compared to the black underclass (which, of course, does NOT mean black folk in general). Arrest and even national prison statistics show this.

All of our perspectives are affected (some would say warped) by our personal experiences. Somebody who lives in a la-di-da exurban community has a different perspective than someone who lives in a congested urban community, where the platitudes of political correctness are challenged on a regular basis for all involved.

124 posted on 04/02/2008 10:35:58 AM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: 2banana

I had this happen to me. I was walking through a parking lot and a group of African-Americans were gathered around a car. I heard someone say, “hey there’s a white guy, let’s git him!”

By the time I turned, there was an unknown number of guys jumping me. Luckily, this was on an Army post and right next to my baracks. The baracks cleared out and a brawl ensued, so my damage was pretty minimal. Then I got in trouble for “inciting a brawl!”

Rascism is racism, regardless of the aggressors!


125 posted on 04/02/2008 10:37:41 AM PDT by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: 2banana

More arrests:
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20080402_3_more_teens_held_in_fatal_Center_City_attack.html


126 posted on 04/02/2008 10:52:08 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: 2banana; All

Need advice from you guys, because I worry that I may be the next hate crime victim. I live alone in a wooded area, a small older white woman. I’ve complained to UPS several times that their driver drops my packages on the road 100 yards from my house, making no attempt to come up my driveway. Anyone could walk or drive along and pick up those packages, as no houses face the road.

The errant driver is a black man. I did complain three times to UPS. Last week, he delivered a box at a time when I happened to be coming home. We talked, or HE talked, giving me the okey doke about how hard my driveway is to navigate, the power lines overhead are too low. I told him that if he’d bother to come up the road during the last nine months, he see that I’ve had trees taken out and the cable and electric companies have tightened the wires.

Two days later, last Thursday, he came up to my gate, then got out and started yelling that the lines had not been raised. Well, they had been, but apparently not high enough for his truck — though DHL and FedEx have had no problems.

I took mop from the carport to hold up the wire, but something fell into my eye, and I ran into the house to get goggles and clean out my eye. When I came out, he had gone. About two minutes later, he came stomping up on my porch and pounded on my door. When I opened the door (a mistake) I could see he was in a rage. He managed to hold onto it and just shout at me: “I backed down the driveway.” And off he stomped again, leaving me shaken and terrified.

Here’s my problem. If he were white, I’d have complained to the company immediately with a phone call followed by a letter to various execs including the CEO. But BEcause He Is Black, I’m afraid to say anything, as he may try to get back at me....next year when the house burns down, who will I suspect?

So what do I do? I thought I might go down to the police station and ask them. I know they are VERY careful about who drives around this island, very protective.

I’ve written to various online vendors asking whether they can please please send packages any way but UPS, and if not, I will not order from them again.

But getting in touch with UPS and lodging a complaint, or at least tactfully suggesting anger management for this man seems risky.

What do you think?
Thanks,
Ms. Veto


127 posted on 04/02/2008 10:58:12 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: societygirl
Okay...

Give me the L.A. Police precinct that handled your “shooting”.

What was the detective's name that investigated the shooting?

Your "story" is bovine scat, and you and I both know it.

128 posted on 04/02/2008 11:00:24 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: steel_resolve

I used to have a t-shirt (that I mainly wore when I was overseas) with an image of Teddy Roosevelt shaking his fist saying “Bully for Bernhard Goetz!”

On the back it said “Go ahead, ask me for $5”

My friends from New York thought it was suicidal.


129 posted on 04/02/2008 11:04:10 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: NFHale
SEPTA can issue all the rules they - MY LIFE AND MY RIGHT TO DEFEND IT trumps their rules.

Fully agree with you there ... on a few occasions, I felt the need to go about armed while living in Maryland ... totally illegal, of course. "Concealed" means nobody knows you have it.

130 posted on 04/02/2008 11:08:46 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Clemenza
Good afternoon.

Most of what you say is true (the snide Calipornian comment aside), but what has any of it to do with the young lady's anecdote smelling of BS?

Actually, when you get down to it, what does it have to do with the thread, which I took to be about the increasing number of cases of black teenagers attacking whites and, in this case, causing the death of a white man which are not being attributed to racism? While we are at it, don't diss those "criminal" Mexicans, yet. They're doing a bang up job of ethnic cleansing of blacks here in California and your day is likely coming in the North East,

Michael Frazier

131 posted on 04/02/2008 12:56:03 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Veto!
Good afternoon.

Report it anyway, to UPS and the police, purchase a gun and learn to use it, and get a dog.

You don't say where you live, so the gun part of my advice may not be valid where you reside. Good luck to you.

Michael Frazier

132 posted on 04/02/2008 1:06:50 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Veto!
But getting in touch with UPS and lodging a complaint, or at least tactfully suggesting anger management for this man seems risky.

Sounds like the right thing to do. UPS drivers have to make a certain amount of stops a day, even it it takes them to 9 PM at night. Maybe he was just mad he wasted so much time delivering 1 freaking package. If you still feel uncomfortable - get a shotgun. And a big dog. And a big man...

133 posted on 04/02/2008 1:14:13 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: societygirl
Yes. Not all. but most. Look at the crime stats.

MOST black people are killers? Is that what you're saying? You're full of crap. Show me a statistic which shows MOST black people are killers.

134 posted on 04/02/2008 1:17:10 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: 2banana

These inner city gang ‘youths’ are just misunderstood kids that need a break. Former Atty. Gen. Alberto Gonzales said so. This nonsense is tolerated by both parties.


135 posted on 04/02/2008 1:18:44 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: ArrogantBustard
"Concealed" means nobody knows you have it.

Amen...

136 posted on 04/02/2008 1:49:41 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Dianna

What do you mean? Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell and Alan Keyes probably have a gang where they kill 100 white people a year...each.

Can you prove they DON’T?

/sarcasm


137 posted on 04/02/2008 2:02:57 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: brazzaville
They're doing a bang up job of ethnic cleansing of blacks here in California

Just as the latter ethnically cleansed white folk from Newark, St. Louis, Philly, Baltimore, much of Chicago, etc. We are used to ethnic succession in the northeast.

138 posted on 04/02/2008 2:03:50 PM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: PLMerite

What if this victim had been gay?
That would put the media on its ear


139 posted on 04/02/2008 2:04:49 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: milford421; LibertyRocks

Ping


140 posted on 04/02/2008 2:09:58 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: Clemenza
Good afternoon.
“We are used to ethnic succession in the northeast.”

Yes, indeed, that goes without saying, eh.

Michael Frazier

141 posted on 04/02/2008 2:11:38 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Osage Orange

In 1985, in Deerfield Beach Florida, I was assaulted by three black youths in school. The leader had jogging weights. He broke my jaw and left me there. Went on to break another guy’s spine, and then found a little old man in his 80’s and beat him and left him in a garbage can and the old man died 3 days later.

They couldn’t find him. Nobody was talking. He was bragging to his friends, but nobody would talk to the police. Finally, his mother told him to make it right. So, he walked into the police station, confessed and then the cops read him his rights, and he refused to restate his confession. When he got to court, he said he was coerced. They let him off.

Tell me I’m racist for thinking that was a hate crime.

In 1994, in Raleigh, North Carolina, I was carjacked at gunpoint by two black youths who wanted a nice car from a white person so one of them could get his dishonorable discharge from the Navy. I was taken in the back seat, beaten over the head, had a gun shoved in my mouth, then taken out of the car, tied to a tree, beaten and then left in the woods with my girlfriend (who had also been beaten, sexually assaulted and tied up and left).

Tell me how, in your screwed up world that isn’t considered a hate crime, and that I’m some sort of racist or that I some how asked to have it happen?

I can tell you from personal experience that having a “hate crime” committed against you isn’t fun. And it isn’t just someone whining. When someone targets you because as one of the perps said “he was there, he was white, he was alone and I was mad” or because you’re the only white person in a nice car to come along in the two hours the perps are staking out the parking lot, then it’s a hate crime.

Paul


142 posted on 04/02/2008 2:15:36 PM PDT by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: brityank
"That site seems to be one affiliated with the David Duke white power type of scumbags, just as scummy as Jackson and Sharpton and their ilk..."

I do not agree with you.

143 posted on 04/02/2008 2:15:43 PM PDT by Loud Mime (If Muslims love death, why do they have hospitals?)
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To: spacewarp; societygirl
My world isn't screwed up. LOL!!

I never said the crime in the article wasn't a hate crime. And I happen to think what's happened to you ARE hate crimes...

But you ought to take careful aim before you shoot at me.

Go back and read what societygirl posted...If she's not a racist, she's posting like one.

Get back to me when you've reviewed her posts.......

144 posted on 04/02/2008 3:46:00 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: Loud Mime

Are you comfortable that that site has KKK pamplets to download and hand out?

The answer to racism isn’t more racism.


145 posted on 04/02/2008 3:59:12 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Loud Mime
I do not agree with you.

Then you either did not bother to go into the site, or if you did wore blinders. Show me my opinion is wrong.

146 posted on 04/02/2008 6:41:02 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I don’t remember ANYWHERE in the Constitution where it mentions “totally Illegal” or “Illegal guns”, or “concealed”, or “sporting purpose” or, or...

I do remember that it says “The RIGHT of the people to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed” though...

I will carry WHEN and WHERE I choose, IF I choose, and BECAUSE it is MY RIGHT to do so as an AMERICAN CITIZEN. I will protect myself, my family and anyone around me. People are SAFER because I carry, even though they won’t ever have to know it.

I am not a subject - I am a citizen, with rights that are worth FIGHTING AND DYING FOR. So are you. So are we ALL out here.

Until we ALL start to remember that and live it, this will only get worse.

People DIED for this right. This young man DIED because he either chose NOT to exercise his right to carry (bad), did not KNOW he had a right to carry (worse), or “did not like guns...and did’t feel the need to own one.” (Worst).

You’re either sheep, wolves, or sheepdogs.

Clearly, the gangsta-thug-underprivileged baggypants rappers were even less than wolves. They were simply rabid dogs that should have been shot down in the street.

This is what we’ve come to. Anyone had enough yet? Then start carrying. Follow the law as much as you can, but if the law threatens your life as much as a criminal does, well, then you have to make that choice for yourselves. “Competing Harms”, I believe it’s called.

I already know my decision.


147 posted on 04/02/2008 7:10:45 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Excellent post.

I read the Sheep, Wolves, Sheepdogs essay on here not too long ago.


148 posted on 04/02/2008 7:17:10 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Twink

It’s been around a long time...and it’s appropo.


149 posted on 04/02/2008 7:18:19 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: NFHale

I agree.

The first time I read it was a few weeks or so ago.

It’s a shame for that man. The philly subway was horrendous back in the 80s, I can’t imagine what it’s like today. I certainly wouldn’t ride it unarmed. I still have sibs and other family who live there and they always carry.


150 posted on 04/02/2008 7:33:30 PM PDT by Twink
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