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Just Say No to Purple Five-Dollar Bills
Poe.com ^ | April 2, 2008 | Richard Lawrence Poe

Posted on 04/02/2008 7:42:28 PM PDT by Richard Poe

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To: Arthur McGowan
"Fiat" money will always be worth whatever the strength of the entity behind the issuance of the "fiat" might be.

If America is no longer able to control its internal currency you got bigger problems than whether or not it was "fiat" money.

Gold will then be stolen from the dead bodies of those who thought it would serve as a hedge against tough times.

101 posted on 04/03/2008 6:43:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Oh, I see. The government is required to spend money to protect the “unwary” from their own ignorance and ruin our money in the process.

Makes sense...not!


102 posted on 04/03/2008 6:45:47 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre
Of course ~ a persistent and effective counterfeiting ring can run enough bad money into your economy to destabilize the currency. And if you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do.

I am very much in favor of security features in money that keep the unwary and children from passing around bad paper.

I'd prefer they print it in bright red and orange though ~

103 posted on 04/03/2008 6:53:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lurker

Well, your groceries cost more than mine. I just looked through my junk mail advertizments to check for sure. A gallon of chololat whole milk is going for 2.99/gallon. So a gallon of skim milk, no chocolate, should go for quite a bit less than that.

You’re right about the OJ though. I don’t buy milk or juice. But $3.79/gal for OJ is not very appealing.


104 posted on 04/03/2008 6:56:25 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: elkfersupper

A can of pop. But who buys only one gallon of gas? A tankfull will spare you 20 bucks.


105 posted on 04/03/2008 6:58:36 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
My hearts in London - Everett writes: Unless there’s some conspiracy going on regarding reasons for the changes to our currency, I don’t see anything wrong with adding a little color and counterfeiting deterrent measures to our bills.

Actually, you've hit the nail on the head. If the motivation for these redesigns is innocent, then the topic is trivial and hardly worth discussing. The reason I wrote this column is that I do not believe the motives are innocent.

Consider the fate of the Dutch guilder. First, they devalued the guilder in people's minds by making it look like play money. Then they removed the face of Admiral de Ruyter, a Dutch national hero. Note that currency designer Ootje Oxenaar called Admiral de Ruyter a "war criminal".

The final step in this process was the complete elimination of the Dutch guilder and its replacement by the Euro.

If the dollar redesign follows the same course, then the next step will be removing George Washington and other Founding Fathers from our bills and replacing them with various heroes and heroines of the left. Next, the dollar will be eliminated altogether and replaced with the Amero or some other such transnational currency.

If my suspicion is true, the purpose of these redesigns is to devalue the dollar in people's minds, so we will feel no sense of loss or outrage when it is finally eliminated.

106 posted on 04/03/2008 7:00:43 AM PDT by Richard Poe
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To: ArrogantBustard

Sorry, it goes into a pot by the front door. Buys a six-pack of Nevada Pale Ale every couple weeks. But I’d be happy to share a bottle of ale with you!


107 posted on 04/03/2008 7:45:32 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DeLaine

Dunno. Grape juice is clear, until you let it soak up color from the peels...


108 posted on 04/03/2008 7:46:10 AM PDT by null and void (It's 3 AM, do you know where Hillary is? Does she know where Bill is? Does Bill know what 'is' is?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

California’s a long way off ... So I’ll pass on the brew ... I’ll hoist a Dominion Stout in your honour, though.


109 posted on 04/03/2008 8:01:50 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Richard Poe

Yep, colorizing your paper money is a guaranteed prelude to going "Euro".

110 posted on 04/03/2008 8:04:37 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Yep, colorizing your paper money is a guaranteed prelude to going "Euro"

THIS color isn't bad:


111 posted on 04/03/2008 8:14:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I've got a home in Glory Land that outshines the sun)
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To: null and void

Don’t be difficult!!!!!!!

;D


112 posted on 04/03/2008 8:15:25 AM PDT by DeLaine (Celebrate Southerness Y'all)
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To: Jim Noble

I see nothing ...


113 posted on 04/03/2008 8:16:11 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: muawiyah

New tagline...


114 posted on 04/03/2008 8:26:30 AM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: mamelukesabre
A tankfull will spare you 20 bucks.

I've broken $50.00 filling up my mid sized sedan on several occasions lately.

115 posted on 04/03/2008 8:28:18 AM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: Richard Poe
If my suspicion is true, the purpose of these redesigns is to devalue the dollar in people's minds, so we will feel no sense of loss or outrage when it is finally eliminated.

Then it's failing in my case.

I find the newest series of notes visually interesting and esthetically pleasing. (OTOH, I quite literally put them under a microscope!).

Although I disagree that "the purpose of these redesigns is to devalue the dollar in people's minds", I agree that "we will feel no sense of loss or outrage when it is finally eliminated".

It's more subtle that making us not like the look of our money. It's to get us used to money frequently changing. After all, all three of the so-called Amero countries already use the same symbol -$- for their money. People will passively accept the new North American Dollar (or NAD) because it isn't all that much different than the last half a dozen changes to our bank notes.

The ones with the 'nads are ready to shove them down our throats at any excuse...

116 posted on 04/03/2008 8:41:28 AM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: ArrogantBustard; ProtectOurFreedom

I’d be willing to drink the ale on your behalf...


117 posted on 04/03/2008 8:43:04 AM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: DeLaine

How???


118 posted on 04/03/2008 8:43:49 AM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: null and void
null and void writes: It's more subtle than making us not like the look of our money. It's to get us used to money frequently changing.

That makes sense. But while they are inoculating us to frequent design changes, they must also get us used to unwelcome changes, that is, changes in the direction of postmodernist kitsch, as exemplified by the Euro.

Like you, I rather liked the design changes which were done from 1996 through 2007. However, the appearance this year of the purple "5" makes clear that much more radical changes lie ahead.

119 posted on 04/03/2008 9:05:03 AM PDT by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe
Bank notes are designed by a committee.

A government committee.

It's a wonder that looking at them doesn't make us want to instantly puke...

120 posted on 04/03/2008 9:09:21 AM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: null and void
Yes, government committees doing the government's work. You want your own doggone designs, form your own committee, print up your own money, now, try to pass it.

Bwahahahahaha!

121 posted on 04/03/2008 9:57:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: centurion316

Do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Mandrake? Children’s ice cream!...You know when fluoridation began?...1946. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It’s incredibly obvious, isn’t it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual, and certainly without any choice. That’s the way your hard-core Commie works. I first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love...Yes, a profound sense of fatigue, a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women...women sense my power, and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women, Mandrake...but I do deny them my essence.


122 posted on 04/03/2008 10:05:24 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Try THIS:


123 posted on 04/03/2008 10:07:07 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I've got a home in Glory Land that outshines the sun)
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To: vox_freedom

No. But I want them to be as hard as possible to counterfeit. As it stands right now, North Korea and Iran (among others) are counterfeiting US money to prop up their economies and hurt us.

Personally, I think that is an act of war, and should be dealt with the appropriate fashion, but, until then, we need to make currency as difficult as possible to counterfeit.


124 posted on 04/03/2008 10:10:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: muawiyah
muawiyah writes: "Yes, government committees doing the government's work. You want your own doggone designs, form your own committee, print up your own money, now, try to pass it."

Actually, the U.S. government did not begin printing its own banknotes until 1862. Before that, only banks printed banknotes.

125 posted on 04/03/2008 10:12:31 AM PDT by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe
So what's $5. worth now?

I'd estimate about .65 cents.

I just started pumping gas the other day, and sneezed...By the time I looked up, I was past 5 bucks.

126 posted on 04/03/2008 10:16:15 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Richard Poe

I’m all for livening up the greenbacks. All color is cool. Blue, red, yellow, orange and purple The $100 bill should be a combination of the colors used on the $1 bill thru the $50 bill. Live a little.


127 posted on 04/03/2008 10:16:57 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Jim Noble

Very nice ... was the coloring part of the original? It’s very similar to the graded color in some of our “new” bills.


128 posted on 04/03/2008 10:17:13 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mamelukesabre; elkfersupper
Until a $5 dollar bill buys more than a gallon of fuel, a gallon of milk, or a pack of cigarettes, I don’t give a crap what it looks like.

Uh, a fiver does buy more than all that.

It does?

Might I ask where you're purchasing your gas, milk and cigarettes? If you have the address, please provide that too.

129 posted on 04/03/2008 10:21:56 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: muawiyah

The main difference between me and a government design committee is that I recognize that I have limited design ability...


130 posted on 04/03/2008 10:23:45 AM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: Hatteras
Hatteras writes: "I’m all for livening up the greenbacks. All color is cool."

Color is not the problem. I love colorful money, when it is done right.

The problem is that we should not entrust the redesign of our national currency to artists imbued with postmodernist ideology. Their goal is to degrade the dollar, not glorify it. Sooner or later, their malice will work itself into their designs.

It is a question of motivation.

131 posted on 04/03/2008 10:29:37 AM PDT by Richard Poe
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To: Richard Poe

First they came for the twenties...


132 posted on 04/03/2008 10:35:05 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Piranha

...and I didn’t say anything because I didn’t have any twenties...


133 posted on 04/03/2008 10:45:38 AM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: Little Ray; Richard Poe

I agree with Poe Richard’s comments. The designs and some of the colors are ugly, and have little to do with anti-counterfeiting tactics. If you like the designs provide another reason...


134 posted on 04/03/2008 11:06:34 AM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: Richard Poe

I use my debit card for nearly all purchases. Cash is so - last century. ;)


135 posted on 04/03/2008 11:14:39 AM PDT by FixedandDilated
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To: Hoplite

LOL — I have to admit it.


136 posted on 04/03/2008 11:25:43 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Grizzled Bear


So long as it buys me green beer on St. Paddy's Day Seamus.
137 posted on 04/03/2008 11:29:06 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Richard Poe
This article, in today's The Economist indicates that changing the look of currency might actually affect its perceived value.

http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10952783

In my previous post, I said that I like the colour-coded Canadian currency. Now, based on this article, I can see that it might be important not to make sudden drastic changes.
138 posted on 04/03/2008 1:06:58 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: null and void
What makes you think a government design committee doesn't also think that?

The main difference between one bunch of folks who think they are inadequate and another bunch (or an individual in this case) is simply that one bunch gets paid to come up with a decision OR ELSE.

You have absolutely no obligation to decide one way or the other.

Plus, anyone can be an editor.

139 posted on 04/03/2008 2:10:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FixedandDilated

I buy virtually everything with a credit card.

My debit card nicks me for a transaction fee at every turn.

My credit card gives me miles with every charge.

As long as I pay off my card in full every month, I’m going for the miles!


140 posted on 04/03/2008 2:42:59 PM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: muawiyah
What makes you think a government design committee doesn't also think that?

Hmmm. Good question.

I think it's because I seldom meet a government employee who doesn't think they are significantly better than any mere citizen.

141 posted on 04/03/2008 2:46:10 PM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: Jim Noble

How big are 1/50th oz gold coins?


142 posted on 04/03/2008 2:55:55 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: dragnet2

I don’t buy cigarettes, but groceries I get at the cutrate bag your own grocery store. I live in iowa.

If you’re paying more than 5 bucks for a gallon of milk, you need to shop somewhere else. Same for the gas.


143 posted on 04/03/2008 3:41:25 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: null and void

I’ve paid just short of a C note filling up a pickup.


144 posted on 04/03/2008 3:56:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre
Until a $5 dollar bill buys more than a gallon of fuel, a gallon of milk, or a pack of cigarettes, I don’t give a crap what it looks like.

But you responded to the above post with this below:

Uh, a fiver does buy more than all that.

Now you state this below:

If you’re paying more than 5 bucks for a gallon of milk, you need to shop somewhere else. Same for the gas.

Which is it?

145 posted on 04/03/2008 4:05:49 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: mamelukesabre
Wow! you must be rich!
146 posted on 04/03/2008 4:11:09 PM PDT by null and void (If you thought Congress was bad you ought to see what the folks who admit they are criminals can do)
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To: dragnet2

I think you missread something. The first line says “...a gallon of fuel, a gallon of milk, or a pack of cig...”

Notice the “or”. That means one of those things for 5 bucks. NOt all three for a total of 5 bucks.


147 posted on 04/03/2008 4:17:51 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre
Uh, a fiver does buy more than all that.

And you stated this above.

What is the meaning of "all"?

148 posted on 04/03/2008 4:20:10 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Fine. I should’ve used “each”. But you already knew that.


149 posted on 04/03/2008 4:47:47 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I’ll drink to that!


150 posted on 04/03/2008 4:47:58 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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