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FairTax / flat tax debate, Northfield, MN
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Posted on 04/03/2008 12:03:31 PM PDT by Man50D
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:03:32 PM PDT
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Man50D
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:03:57 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: Man50D
I’ll take a flat tax please, with a side of fries.
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:09:06 PM PDT
by
utherdoul
To: Man50D
With all due respect, its a waste of time.
St. Olaf is so ignorantly liberal. Save the effort for an audience that counts.
To: utherdoul
Ill take a flat tax please, with a side of fries.
The Fair Tax is a flat tax but on consumption instead of income. A flat tax on income was implemented in 1913 and has grown to the oppressive system consisting of more than 67,000+ pages so complex that even the IRS has difficulty correctly answering tax questions.
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:12:49 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: Seven Minute Maniac
With all due respect, its a waste of time. St. Olaf is so ignorantly liberal.
Save the effort for an audience that counts.
It's hardly a waste of time considering the number of grassroots Fair Tax supporters is growing.
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:14:14 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: Man50D
Using the effective tax rates provided at fairtax.org and comparing them to the effective tax rates under the current tax code, you’ll find that the fair tax is not anywhere close to as flat of a tax as the current tax code.
To: Man50D
It sure is growing, just not at socialist St. Olaf.
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:18:55 PM PDT
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MplsSteve
To: eraser2005
I don't know about the "fair" tax......I do think that the current tax system favors certain groups....
almost all workers find it hard to get over that 2% misc deduction....yet business men can routinely write off lunches, and drinks, and sporting events, and golf outings, etc etc...
the most egregious to me is the frequent flier miles/hotels that business men accrue.....the business pays for all of their out of town expenses and their flights, yet the business man gets to get all those free rides and hotel stays for him and his family....THAT should be absolutely taxed as income.....as should all the other freebies...
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:20:38 PM PDT
by
cherry
To: eraser2005
Using the effective tax rates provided at fairtax.org and comparing them to the effective tax rates under the current tax code, youll find that the fair tax is not anywhere close to as flat of a tax as the current tax code.
Have you bothered to look at the 2007 1040 booklet? The 2007 tax table is 12 pages long! People only pay one rate at the cash register for The Fair Tax.
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:21:39 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: utherdoul
Ditto, in a realistic sense, flat tax seems the easiest to implement within a short time-frame. Fair could be a long term goal.
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:28:16 PM PDT
by
mnehring
To: Seven Minute Maniac
Maybe the St. Olaf Republicans should get together with the Carleton Republicans and the Macalester Republicans and they can form a baskeball team.
To: Man50D
I wonder if Minnesotans for Glabal Warming will be there too...
To: cherry
this is why one ought to be a producer rather than a consumer...set up your own business and claim these same tax breaks! Anyone can do it with enough motivation...
To: cherry
“I don’t know about the “fair” tax......I do think that the current tax system favors certain groups....”
No doubt about that.
I think a better solution would be to just simplify the current code. Remove deductions and lower listed rates... it would be far less disruptive to the economy. I think people underestimate the broad effect a quick (less than 10 years) and massive change to the tax code would have.
To: mnehrling
Ditto, in a realistic sense, flat tax seems the easiest to implement within a short time-frame.
The Fair Tax has a far better chance of passing than any flat tax. The Fair Tax alone has 74 cosponsors. The four flat tax related bills: Freedom Flat Tax, Tax Simplification Act Of 2007, Flat Tax Act Of 2007, and the Fair Tax Act Of 2007 have a total of 9 cosponsors. The latter two don't have any cosponsors.
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:43:41 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: eraser2005
I think a better solution would be to just simplify the current code.
That was tried with the Tax Reform Act of 1986. The result is a tax code that has grow to more than 67,000 pages. The income tax code is beyond repair. It needs to be replaced.
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posted on
04/03/2008 12:47:22 PM PDT
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: MinnesotaLibertarian
Thats good.
They might get a full roster, but I’m not sure they’d be tall enough.
To: Man50D
“Have you bothered to look at the 2007 1040 booklet? The 2007 tax table is 12 pages long! People only pay one rate at the cash register for The Fair Tax.”
The 2007 tax table can be summarized in just a few lines (see p.87 of the 1040 instruction book). The table is 12 pages long because too many fools can’t do basic math.
But that doesn’t address the “flatness” of the tax. The length or brevity of a tax table has no direct relationship to the flatness of the tax structure.
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