Posted on 04/09/2008 4:41:39 PM PDT by JRochelle
SAN ANGELO, Tex. - Adult FLDS men were having sex with underage brides inside the massive limestone temple at the polygamous sect's Texas ranch, a confidential informant told authorities.
According to a request for a search warrant unsealed today by a Texas judge, Schliecher County Sheriff David Doran has been working with a confidential informant who has shared information about the ranch over several years. On Saturday, as a sweeping raid was underway at the YFZ Ranch, the informant spoke to Doran and made the allegation about the temple, the court filing said.
The affidavit was from Texas Ranger Leslie Brooks Long, who reported being at the ranch and observing a bed inside the temple with disturbed linens and a long hair, apparently from a female.
The document was filed in support of the state's request for a second warrant to search the ranch, owned by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. That warrant was signed Sunday; an earlier warrant had been signed on Thursday, the day the raid began.
Since then, authorities have removed 419 children, accompanied by 139 women.
Tom Green County District Judge Barbara Walther unsealed the documents during a hearing today.
She also ruled three members of the sect have the legal right to challenge the massive search, and said she will appoint a special master to review documents and computer hard drives seized from the sect's ranch. The special master will determine what material is privileged and protected as strictly religious.
Gerald Goldstein, who is representing sect members, estimated that hundreds of boxes of documents have been taken from the YFZ Ranch.
"We ought to be able to cull out those that are sacred," he told the judge. "If it relates to the children, they get it. If it doesn't, they don't."
Police can seize any documents related to family lineage, he acknowledged.
Allison Palmer, assistant district attorney for the 51st District, argued that sect members did not have legal standing, or should not be allowed to challenge the search. No arrests have been made, she pointed out.
But the judge disagreed, granting legal standing to three men:
- Lyle Jeffs, representing himself and the FLDS church. He is the bishop of the FLDS church's Short Creek stake on the border of Utah and Arizona and the father of two children taken from the ranch.
- Ranch overseer Merrill Jessop, who is also is a presiding elder in the sect.
- Isaac Jeffs, a brother of the sect's leader.
Goldstein said the men are no longer seeking to quash two state search warrants used so far by officials, conceding the point is moot because a federal search warrant has been issued.
agree with you..first thing I thought...sleepers..where are the Kitties! We need them NOW!
***At what age do you become an adult and become responsible for the decisons you make.***
Some people have the misfortune of being born in a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation in which there is no viable out.
>>”You have got to be kidding. Those young teenage girls are pregnant.”<<
It will be interesting to find out if any of the few remaining teenage boys are the fathers, rather than the 50+ year old men. I would imagine that it would be hard to hide all the perverted sexual activities and that the boys were involved, too. DNA will tell all. At this point, we can only speculate. I fear the worst possible stories are yet to come.
Damn the FLDS for claiming affiliation with the Mormons (LDS), damn them to hell.
I guess in reality, there have been several religions that gave the "godly" okay for men to rape young girls and to keep them as their sex slaves.....I don't know any other way to put it.....
>>”...but the Book of Mormon is pretty much only by the bedside of Mormons.”<<
BS. How many Mormons do you know? Every LDS home I’ve been in has proudly exhibited and read from the Bible.
People at Harvard are free to come and go as they chose.
People at Harvard have control over their own bodies. You apply to Harvard, you are “given over to it.” People are on a waiting list to get into Harvard, not out of it. If you do drop out of Harvard — to do so, you don't have to call the domestic violence hot line.
correction: You aren’t ‘given over to it.’
ah....the fundamental reason why polygamy is cultural insanity......it deprives the younger men and what do the younger men do when they have no girlfriends, no wife?.....we'll find out as China is about to reap its karma for killing off female unborn children and female infanticide that they have long encouraged....
Amen greyfoxx39. Waaaay too many newbies wrapping their posts in laments over Waco and everything from property rights to homeschooling to ‘disgust’ at calling the ‘compound’ anything other than a village or gated community (a few of the ‘reaches’ of logic made). Others have posted this sentiment that I share...I am shocked by the lack of outrage at the treatment of the girls at FLDS and the vemon spewed towards the Texas Rangers and Children’s Services Department. Statutory rape, along with widescale welfare fraud seem to be the norm there...but the outrage is focused on Texas taking protective custody of young girls who were routinely raped (and according to the 16 y/o informant beaten also). Disrupters here on FR to make conservatives ‘look’ bad? I am beginning to now check the sign on date of those I respond to...
”...but the Book of Mormon is pretty much only by the bedside of Mormons.”
Read it again, it means that the Book of Mormon will only be by the bedside of Mormons, you will not find it in very many Christian homes, except for those engaged in some kind of research, for instance I would like to have one of the early versions.
Kind of like the snake handlers are a offshoot of evangelical Protestant gone over to the dark side and tempting God-superstitions, dictatorial elders, secret rituals--all in the name of God, with no love of God and fellowman, no joy, no honor.
vaudine
FLDS opponents say wrong man named in warrant
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated:
04/09/2008 02:30:43 AM MDT
The warrant issued Thursday evening named 50-year-old Dale Barlow, alleging he had married and impregnated a 16-year-old girl. But Joni Holm, who has helped children leave the FLDS, said the teenager who called officials on March 29 and 30 and claimed she was abused is married to a different, younger man. The girl’s husband is in his late 30s, is related to Dale Barlow, shares his surname and has a similar sounding first name.
http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_8859783
OOPS. The mess begins. Mark my words. This is going to blow up in the face of the Government.
Wow, kicked out at a young age so the “old guys” could have the girls? Well, where are they all? Why aren’t they out there with their stories?
Perhaps because they DON’T EXIST?
Anyone defending these pedophile monsters in any way, is a wicked human being..
I notice that in the first thread with the first defend poster.They make me sick and they should get off now.They don’t belong here.They have new sign up dates like you said.Reminds me of the Westerfield trial.
“I am beginning to now check the sign on date of those I respond to...”
Look at the posting history of many of the other pro-cult supporters besides the noobys and you will notice something very, very, odd, they were early, and strong, Romney supporters as well.
What could account for that?
Even people saying we should just wait for the truth to come out? Even they are wicked? Seems to me some people here have tried convicted and hung the members based on what appears to be an anonymous call and the incriminating evidence is a bed in a temple.
sorry.
Well, that and some pregnant young girtls.
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