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McCain says he believes U.S. is in a recession (Gives into MSM Doom and Gloom - DOLT alert!)
The Hill ^ | 4/14/08 | Klaus Marre

Posted on 04/14/2008 1:02:48 PM PDT by NYC Republican

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To: Doohickey

You said Bush spent every penny. He did not. Congress does the spending. Watch your wording next time.


121 posted on 04/15/2008 5:45:56 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

I can watch my wording, as you say, but you’re still going to be wrong.


122 posted on 04/15/2008 5:47:45 AM PDT by Doohickey ("We cannot insure victory, but we can deserve it" - John Adams)
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To: Doohickey

You’re wrong. Bush did not spend every penny. Congress spent it. Your wording was incorrect.


123 posted on 04/15/2008 5:51:22 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Moonman62
There is neutral evidence that the economy has stopped growing, and that is just as bad in an election year.

That's the part you don't seem to get...ELECTION YEAR.

And thus the continued repetition of the word "recession" even though ONE quarter of negative growth has not yet been realized.

Your only "proof" that Bush was "against" cap gains is Novak? Sheesh. Novak often gets stuff wrong in his "behind the scenes" gossip. President Bush was on board for cap gains. May not have been his brain-child, of course, as many ideas he brings into being are conceived by those under him. Larry Kudlow also had a hand in promoting cap gains at the WH. But it was included in the bill Bush signed along with other tax cuts. The whole package worked to stimulate the economy for many, many quarters.

Pres. Bush continues to stand against tax hikes today. God bless him for prospering America. It's my guess we will see negative growth for only one quarter...no recession by election day. Poor Hillary.

124 posted on 04/15/2008 10:30:55 AM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
That's the part you don't seem to get...ELECTION YEAR.

Which is a correlation you are mistaking for causation, and now now you sound like a conspiracy theorist.

And thus the continued repetition of the word "recession" even though ONE quarter of negative growth has not yet been realized.

You don't know that. Numbers get revised for months afterwards, and that's why it takes the NBER so long to declare whether we had a recession or not. What matters is we are in the middle of a significant economic slow down with very high energy and food costs thanks to poor economic leadership. Democrats are energized and Republicans are not because they are disappointed with the way Republicans have behaved under W's leadership.

Your only "proof" that Bush was "against" cap gains is Novak? Sheesh. Novak often gets stuff wrong in his "behind the scenes" gossip.

I don't care for Novak either, but there are other stories that confirm this particular story. Maybe you should come up with your own sources that show W originated and pushed for the capital gains tax cut in 2003.

May not have been his brain-child, of course, as many ideas he brings into being are conceived by those under him.

Nope, those under him, in particular Lawrence Lindsey opposed the cap gains cut, too. Members of Congress are not under W, and in this case they defied him.

But it was included in the bill Bush signed along with other tax cuts.

W's words were "put together a tax bill and I'll sign it." Which was no revelation since he signed everything that came out of Congress, and is another reason why he's been a poor president, but it did indicate that he gave up on his own tax plan without a cap gains tax cut.

The whole package worked to stimulate the economy for many, many quarters.

Yes, and we can thank Bill Thomas for that. W should also thank him for his second term.

125 posted on 04/15/2008 10:53:43 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
now now you sound like a conspiracy theorist

LOL. That comment alone tells me how uninformed you are about the socialist/commie MO..the media and the leftist politicians continually collaborate to gain/maintain power.

They have twisted economic realities for over a century to demogogue the masses. I guess you are one of those who are easily taken in.

Friend, watch and see what happens between now and November. It will be an education for you.

126 posted on 04/15/2008 11:13:38 AM PDT by what's up
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To: NYC Republican
Prove it. You can predict the future?

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080416/fed_economy.html

127 posted on 04/16/2008 1:06:49 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: chilepepper

On the day the markets are up 260 points, many of the major companies reporting earnings did stellar??? The point was, how can you predict a recession... This proves NO SUCH THING.


128 posted on 04/16/2008 2:20:00 PM PDT by NYC Republican (John McCain- Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...)
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