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Oakland Police Worried About Increased Vigilantism
KCBS All News 740 AM ^ | April 21, 2008 | Bob Melrose

Posted on 04/22/2008 12:53:38 PM PDT by Califreak

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To: Califreak
"...things can get out of hand quickly if everyone starts packing a weapon"

According to this logic, Camp Victory in Iraq, where everyone is required to carry a weapon and ammunition (usually an "assault weapon") should be bloodbaths of "blue on blue" violence, especially with the stresses of deployment and life in the military. Yet this is far from the case.
121 posted on 04/22/2008 10:49:23 PM PDT by Lusis ("Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.")
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To: Califreak

What he should be worrying about are the criminals getting the run of the city!


122 posted on 04/22/2008 11:36:30 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Vigilanteman

“the law is already in the hands of the people. The people have deputized the police to enforce the law”

Well put! Short enough to be a good sound-bite and clear enough to be understood; you should get yourself interviewed on CNN about gun rights!


123 posted on 04/22/2008 11:40:54 PM PDT by baa39 ("God bless America" - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Califreak

The only problem I see here is that they didn’t kill the two robbers.


124 posted on 04/23/2008 2:46:48 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Califreak
Oakland police are worried that more and more people will take the law into their own hands...

Who, after all, does it really belong to?

125 posted on 04/23/2008 2:49:44 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Califreak

In the twisted, demensia of big city liberals, self-defense is labeled “vigilantism”. I’m sure he’s the type that would insist that rape victims not arm themselves and fight back, but just enjoy it. No wonder Oakland is such a putrid cesspool of human waste.


126 posted on 04/23/2008 4:17:02 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: mad_as_he$$

Actually, that is the best plan for Oakland’s renewal I’ve ever heard. Vaporize and re-colonize. Nice thinking.


127 posted on 04/23/2008 4:19:41 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Mr. K

how can things get out of hand? once all the criminals are dead things will quiet right down...
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There is an interesting history series on cable called “The Real West” if memory serves. David Carradine used to host it and there were spots done by historians who specialized in the wild west era. I found it interesting that one of them said that yes, there were real guntoting badguys but they stayed mainly on their own side of the cowtowns and a woman walking alone on the street was safer than in any town today. The reason given was that any tough who bothered a woman or a child knew that his bones would be resting in the cemetery before another sunset. There were civil war vets in those towns and they would not sit idly by.


128 posted on 04/23/2008 5:06:09 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
we can’t have people PROTECTING THEMSELVES

If folks defending themselves can be labeled vigilantes, what name do they give to someone who enters a place of business and demands a portion of your earnings?

Unauthorized tax collector?

129 posted on 04/23/2008 7:53:20 AM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: Califreak

“If you choose to defend yourself you’re a vigilante, according to the Deputy Police Chief. “

What a turd.


130 posted on 04/23/2008 7:55:09 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Califreak

P.S. The Chief, not you.


131 posted on 04/23/2008 7:55:25 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Vigilanteman

With a name like yours, you should avoid Oakland ;^)


132 posted on 04/23/2008 7:59:33 AM PDT by budwiesest (Coming to a town near you, unless of course, you put a stop to it.)
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To: Califreak
"That's a concern that law enforcement has all the time, that people will engage in vigilantism," said Kozicki.

Yep. Because if the police will not take the law into their hands, we'll take it into ours. Note to Oakland cops: do your f***ing jobs so we don't have to.

133 posted on 04/23/2008 8:40:39 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Charlton Heston & Ronald Reagan - my two favorite Presidents.)
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To: Califreak
People have a right to protect themselves, but things can get out of hand quickly if everyone starts packing a weapon, said Deputy Police Chief Dave Kozicki.

No problem. Califiornia citizens can put citizen initiative measures on their state ballots, right?

How about: In those cities, coiunties or other political jurisdictions within the State of California in which citizens cannot carry a concealed weapon, no retired police officer nor any member of a police officer's family may carry a concealed weapon, nor may any public retirement fund monies be paid to any retired police officer or elected or appointed public officer of that jurisdiction.

You can call it *Proposition .45*.

134 posted on 04/23/2008 9:17:36 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Emperor Palpatine
“Oakland elected Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown mayor.”

and followed it up with Ron “Red” Dellums.

135 posted on 04/23/2008 9:43:03 AM PDT by Polynikes (Hey. I got a question. How are you planning to get back down that hill?)
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To: Califreak
I could see that statement if people were actively hunting criminals in a Charles Bronson “Death Wish”

Too much of our leadership has seen too many movies. Of course the politicians rather deal with a fearful public. A confidant, assertive public is a pain in the a**.

136 posted on 04/23/2008 4:56:07 PM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: wtc911

I will put it on the TIVO wish list if it ever comes back on again.


137 posted on 04/23/2008 5:29:50 PM PDT by Sawdring
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