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1 posted on 04/24/2008 2:48:55 PM PDT by The_Macallan
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To: The_Macallan

Barack Hussein Obama is not electable. End of story.


2 posted on 04/24/2008 2:53:53 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: The_Macallan

NC is a caucus state?


3 posted on 04/24/2008 2:54:35 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: The_Macallan

Very interesting. And don’t call me Shirley. :)


4 posted on 04/24/2008 2:55:46 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: The_Macallan

I will accept these calculations only if certified by Louis Farrakhan ;-)


5 posted on 04/24/2008 2:56:11 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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FOCUS GROUP AND POLL SAYS OBAMA FAR WORSE THAN HILLARY IN GENERAL:

. . . Also, Republican pollster Whit Ayres told me that four focus groups he’s conducted among blue-collar whites in Michigan and Missouri show “they are open to voting for Hillary Clinton, but there’s no way in hell they are going for Obama. It’s cultural.

“They just don’t think he’s a patriotic American. It’s the flag pin, his church, his wife’s statement that most Americans are ‘mean.’ As one woman said in one of these groups, ‘I don’t think he bleeds red, white and blue.’”

Ayres also polled Tennessee — a GOP-leaning state — for Sen. Lamar Alexander (R) and found that Clinton would lose to McCain by 8 points, but that Obama would lose by 20 points. Twenty-five percent of Democrats said they would not vote for Obama. . . .

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/04/obama_is_wounded_but_clinton_m.html


6 posted on 04/24/2008 2:59:54 PM PDT by prolifefirst
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I want to see a very bloodied Obama win the nomination.

Why?

1. Because Hillary's supporters prefer McCain to Obama, and will either stay home or vote McCain.
2. Hillary will work against Obama in the hopes of running in 2012. (in her dreams!)
3. Beating Obama in the election will take him out as a future candidate, and will brand his as a "loser."
4. Defeating Hillary will end the influence of the Clintons.

7 posted on 04/24/2008 3:00:13 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Illegals : Why spend the money to educate them if its against the law to employ them?)
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Good seeing you here Mac.

In the case of the two Dem. candidates, I think ARFCOM wisdom is turned on its head & the correct answer is “get neither”!

Later buddy,

NYPatriot


8 posted on 04/24/2008 3:01:29 PM PDT by NY Patriot
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Only flaw with this argument is that Obama would lost NY or CA. Oh well, anyone who refers to Hildabeast as Hill, must have hots for her.


12 posted on 04/24/2008 3:04:39 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: The_Macallan

The difference is even more pronounced if you look at the states the Democrats have to win in November. If we say, for the sake of argument, that a winning Democrat strategy would keep the same states won in 2004 and add Ohio, Florida and Utah, let’s see who won those states in the primary:

STATE - Electoral Votes (Primary Election Winner)

Connecticut - 7 (Obama )
Delaware - 3 (Obama )
District Of Columbia - 3 (Obama )
Illinois - 21 (Obama )
Maryland - 10 (Obama )
Vermont - 3 (Obama )
Wisconsin - 10 (Obama )
Hawaii - 4 (Obama )
Kansas - 6 (Obama )
Maine - 4 (Obama )
Minnesota - 10 (Obama )
Washington - 11 (Obama )

Arkansas - 6 (Clinton )
California - 55 (Clinton )
Florida - 27 (Clinton )
Massachusetts - 12 (Clinton )
Michigan - 17 (Clinton )
New Hampshire - 4 (Clinton )
New Jersey - 15 (Clinton )
New Mexico - 5 (Clinton )
New York - 31 (Clinton )
Ohio - 20 (Clinton )
Pennsylvania - 21 (Clinton )
Rhode Island - 4 (Clinton )

92 Electoral Votes for Obama
217 Primary Electoral votes For Clinton.

Clinton has done much better in the states that the Democrats have to win and a lot of Obama’s success has come in states that will be going Republican in the Fall.

The superdelegates are going to have to decide if they want to win enough to risk the wrath of the African American community by snubbing Obama to hand the nomination to Clinton. They can’t win with Obama.


16 posted on 04/24/2008 3:18:01 PM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: The_Macallan
The only complaint I have with your post is your disparaging tone toward caucuses.

How elitist and insider it is of those horrible states to require citizens to show up for one 2-3 hour event once every 2 or 4 years!

Oh, and somehow primaries are so much more reliable since they are all run exactly the same with the same rules ... not. Some are open, and some are not. Up until now most people voted their conscience, but now people are much more open to voting strategically in the other party's primary.

So some of the primaries that went in Hillary's favor may actually have gone for Obama without strategic voting.

After all is said and done about this election it is a sad state of affairs when we are about to be clobbered by Social Security, Medicare, our crumbling infrastructure, and potential terrorist threats and all we have to choose from are Hillary, Obama, and McCain.

Yeech.

17 posted on 04/24/2008 3:18:54 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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