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Border Fence Fiasco(Chuck Norris)
worldnetdaily.com ^ | April 28, 2008 | Chuck Norris

Posted on 04/28/2008 5:15:45 AM PDT by kellynla

Last week Customs and Border Protection officials reported that two months after Homeland Security Secretary, Michael Chertoff, approved a $20 million virtual fence along a 28-mile stretch in Arizona (called Project 28), the fence was scrapped as impractical and ineffective.

Is anyone really shocked by this security fence fiasco? Another government solution bites the dust.

Our government has failed to produce a suitable resolution to the illegal immigrant crisis. Amnesty is not the answer. And immigration laws aren't effective if we continue to dodge or ignore them. Furthermore, globalization efforts have only confused security matters, endangering our borders as well as our national identity – our sovereignty.

While border patrols and homeland security have made some headway, our nation's boundaries, ports and airports remain largely open runways for illegal and terrorist transport. For example, Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., just sent out his newsletter update (April 21, 2008) reminding us about another type of illegal crossing, those from the United States to Mexico. It appears drug cartels are again using revenue derived from their "free trade" to illegally purchase weapons in the U.S. and smuggle them back into Mexico, where they are bolstering murder rates up 100 percent in certain towns.

Exacerbating the security crisis is the fact that there continues to be a shortage of both Border Patrol and other safety government officials. The Homeland Security Department is still trying to fill last year's 138 vacancies in high-level jobs – an employment crisis that it calls "a critical homeland security issue that demands immediate attention."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; illegals; immigration; jorgeboosh; norris
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And after BOTH borders are secured. The 300K foreigners incarcerated in our federal and state prisons should be deported. There is absolutely no reason why American taxpayers should have to pay conservatively SIX AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR to incarcerate other countries criminals. It's not like we are long on prison cell space and short on AMERICAN criminals. And by deporting these foreigners we will automatically open up slots for AMERICAN criminals who are roaming about the country committing more crimes.
1 posted on 04/28/2008 5:15:45 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; Travis McGee

ping


2 posted on 04/28/2008 5:17:06 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
"Virtual" fences are only meant to gull the sheeple.

Note that there is a very real fence around the Whitehouse....backed up by sensors and guards.


3 posted on 04/28/2008 5:23:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee; Tennessee Nana; bcsco; DoughtyOne

bttt


4 posted on 04/28/2008 5:25:18 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: kellynla
I think maybe this is the fence some want to engage. Photobucket
5 posted on 04/28/2008 5:38:08 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Travis McGee
Virtual defenders of America in an impotent US Congress
only interested in its own gluttony.

Borders, walls, and fences are only as good as the leaders and personnel willing to defend them.


6 posted on 04/28/2008 5:38:18 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: kellynla

Norris/Daniels 2012


7 posted on 04/28/2008 5:38:29 AM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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To: Guenevere

Yeah, I no sooner posted the daily ping, and this came up on my next refresh. Sheesh! It’ll be the first on tomorrow’s list.


8 posted on 04/28/2008 5:41:25 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: kellynla
And for the remaining illegal immigrants already in this country, I agree again with Newt: "Workers who came here illegally but have a good work relationship and community ties (including family), should have first opportunity to get the new temporary worker visas, but instead of paying penalties, they should be required to go home and get the visa at home."

Norris did ok until the above. Temporary workers stay. They don't go home. If someone entered this country illegally and probably committed ID theft and other crimes, he/she should be disqualified from receiving any type of visa.

9 posted on 04/28/2008 5:43:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kellynla
Chuck for VP!
10 posted on 04/28/2008 6:09:25 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: kellynla

To heck with Huck...Chuck Norris for President! heh


11 posted on 04/28/2008 7:00:46 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: kellynla
Fence? Who needs fences when we've got plenty of these across the country...


12 posted on 04/28/2008 7:28:00 AM PDT by kenth (I have a apolitical blues)
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To: kellynla

You know, even a fence with gaps would funnel people into zones where they could be apprehended. So even a fence with gaps would work better than a virtual fence.


13 posted on 04/28/2008 8:23:36 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: FastCoyote

Oh, this whole business of a fence/wall & illegals is so ridiculous.
“IF” Bush had “gotten on the stick” and deployed the Corps of Engineers to BOTH borders after 9/11, had them build a fences/walls and deployed troops to guard those installations;
this whole business would have been rectified by now.
But, Mexico evidently has Bush in their “back pocket” so we’ll just have to badger McCain to finish the job next year. The savings from deporting incarcerated foreigners and deporting illegal aliens will more than pay for the walls/fences on BOTH borders in the first year!


14 posted on 04/28/2008 8:36:40 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
How are you going to 'badger' McCain when he spearheaded the Amnesty bill in the first place (with W's approval, of course)....

...If McCain gets the Presidency (& we saw how he rose like the proverbial phoenix after last summer)...

..that will be his reward for doing the President's bidding.

15 posted on 04/28/2008 9:36:20 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Guenevere

McCain says he has changed his position on the border and will secure the border...all anyone can do is take a person at their word....

after all, even Reagan “dropped the ball” on illegals too by not demanding that the bill he signed for amnesty also enforce border security.

gezzzzzzzzzzzzz...


16 posted on 04/28/2008 9:43:19 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kabar

I agree. Just who is going to define what constitutes “good work relationship and community ties”?

You came here illegally, you must leave.


17 posted on 04/28/2008 9:43:45 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: kellynla; SoCalPol

Well, maybe if Chuck Norris had endorsed Duncan Hunter instead of the dog beater’s daddy, the fence would’ve gotten serious play.


18 posted on 04/28/2008 10:59:25 AM PDT by b9
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To: b9

Not to get too far afield,
I like Duncan BUT he needs to win a statewide office like governorship before he tries to run for POTUS.
He just wasn’t able to garner the votes for a presidential candidacy at this time.
I would love to see him as the next governor of CA!!!


19 posted on 04/28/2008 11:33:28 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
While I appreciate your threads on the issue of illegal immigration...

..I don't appreciate you associating Reagan's one (of very few) mistakes with

..McCain's glaring problems with this issue and many more.

20 posted on 04/28/2008 11:40:11 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: kellynla

It just miffs me that Norris supported someone for whom the fence meant nothing.

To now claim it as important to him is suspect. He could have made a difference. Who knows, maybe Norris realizes that himself now, too.


21 posted on 04/28/2008 11:46:20 AM PDT by b9
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To: Guenevere

“I don’t appreciate you associating Reagan’s one (of very few) mistakes?”

Well, as far as illegal immigration is concerned and the issue at hand, RR’s “mistake” is one hellofa mistake.

You may not “appreciate” it, but it is accurate.LOL

RR just should have been more like IKE when it came to illegals & the border!


22 posted on 04/28/2008 11:49:45 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
I'm not denying it....

I'm saying it pales in comparison to McCain's glaring missteps....

..but since he's your guy, you refuse to see the distinction.

23 posted on 04/28/2008 12:33:57 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: Guenevere

“but since he’s your guy?”

fyi, I’m not his “guy”

For the record, if you had been paying attention, you would KNOW that I have many issues with McCain.

AND I proudly campaigned for RR for POTUS not once but twice!

And before you start comparing one POTUS with another “candidate” ya might want to at least let McCain serve one term as POTUS before you start making comparisons. LOL


24 posted on 04/28/2008 12:41:22 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: FastCoyote; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
even a fence with gaps would funnel people into zones where they could be apprehended.

That's called shaping the battlefield, in military terms. And that is exactly what DHS has planned right now; they are not planning on putting up 2000 miles of wall along the southern border.

25 posted on 04/28/2008 12:46:48 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: kellynla

If a state wide office is required for a good candidate
then you must think Hitlery and Obama are better than Hunter.

He had 27 yrs in congress with more military and national security experience and background than most Senators and almost all govs.


26 posted on 04/28/2008 1:08:20 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: b9

We keep getting lip service from the adm. re the fence.
Bottom line, they are trying to run out the clock as Nov.
will be here very soon and then they don’t have to bother there after.


27 posted on 04/28/2008 1:10:50 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: kellynla

For the record, you started the comparison....I didn’t.


28 posted on 04/28/2008 1:24:20 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: SoCalPol

If Hunter was such a good candidate for POTUS then why isn’t he “the” GOP candidate for POTUS?


29 posted on 04/28/2008 1:39:08 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Guenevere

Yes, I did.

So, lets wait til McCain serves at least one term before you start dissing him.

gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


30 posted on 04/28/2008 1:44:34 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

The liberal MSM made sure to keep Hunter off of any recognition.

Also many pedantic folks believe in the myth of
candidates being a Gov. first. and the self fullfilled
ranting of he can’t win.

If republicans said Reagan can’t win so we won’t vote for him and instead split the vote in several directions, we wouldn’t have had Reagan for a Pres.


31 posted on 04/28/2008 1:54:34 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: SoCalPol

“The liberal MSM made sure to keep Hunter off of any recognition.”

That is soooooooooo weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeak! LOL

Hunter isn’t the candidate because he wasn’t as good a candidate as others and because he ran a poor campaign.

“Also many pedantic folks believe in the myth of
candidates being a Gov. first”

Well, that obviously didn’t apply to McCain now did it.

And there hasn’t been a non-governor to win POTUS
since JFK.

Now lets see if Hunter can win a governorship or U.S. Senate seat from CA if he is as good a candidate as you say he is...


32 posted on 04/28/2008 3:00:43 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Great tagline.

Hunter’s candidacy made it easier to spot the idiots.
He may have been a poor campaigner, but his issues resonated.


33 posted on 04/28/2008 4:23:53 PM PDT by b9
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To: kellynla

So you didn’t like the only conservative with the most experience in international affairs.
Your peoblem, not mine.

Also with more democrats registered in California,
no conservative or moderate republican will ever win as gov. or Senator But you knew that.


34 posted on 04/28/2008 4:40:47 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: HiJinx

Bttt!


35 posted on 04/28/2008 5:13:16 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: SoCalPol
with more democrats registered in California, no conservative or moderate republican will ever win as gov. or Senator

Unless they are super popular for something OTHER than conservatism.

36 posted on 04/28/2008 5:23:23 PM PDT by b9
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To: b9

Unless they are super popular for something OTHER than conservatism

Bingo!


37 posted on 04/28/2008 6:29:24 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: kellynla

btt


38 posted on 04/28/2008 6:41:59 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: kellynla

Because all the ‘kool-aid’ drinkers thought that electability was more important than right or wrong.


39 posted on 04/28/2008 6:59:10 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: SoCalPol
“So you didn’t like the only conservative with the most experience in international affairs?”

Didn't say that, now did I...

“Also with more democrats registered in California,
no conservative or moderate republican will ever win as gov?”

and who were Reagan, Deukmejian, Wilson and Schwarzenegger

FYI, statewide elections in CA are turned by the registered Independents.

"Your peoblem, not mine?”

your spelling skills are almost as inferior as your debating skills.

But you keep trying...I love knocking amateurs around. LMAO

40 posted on 04/28/2008 7:19:05 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: b9

someone failed to inform Hunter & Tancredo that politics is like checkers ...not chess...
let me know when either one wins a statewide election.

I sometimes think these guys run for president just so they can travel the country on OPM. LOL


41 posted on 04/28/2008 7:28:12 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Reagan was Gov. in the 60s when we were still republican.
Arnold or my cat would have won the special election after
what Greyout Davis did to the state.
Also Arnold is not a conservative or moderate republican.

In the past 10 years the democrat population has grown especially the millions of Mexicans in the state.

I am native of this state for several decades and also worked at Reagan’s headquarters here in San Diego.

How many years have youy lived in Calif and your background in politics here?


42 posted on 04/28/2008 7:32:41 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: kellynla

It is interesting that you are agitated by Hunter and probably his Marine Capt. son.

You need to move on and put that hate towards the democrats.

Displacement is not your friend. You need to find out what is really bothering you and focus on that.
You are embarrassing yourself.


43 posted on 04/28/2008 7:39:51 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: kellynla

Great post. Thanks.


44 posted on 04/28/2008 8:11:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (Dew knot tryst yore spill chequer too ketch awl yore miss takes... Freeper backhoe)
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To: kellynla

Not sure what ‘OPM’ is, but I think Hunter wanted his hot button issues front and center, as well as his son’s candidacy for Congress.

I do agree, winning a statewide election in CA would be HUGE for him.
He has name recognition now, but not the popularity (yet).

It would take a conservative superstar to beat the liberals in CA.
I can’t think of any, can you?


45 posted on 04/28/2008 8:17:04 PM PDT by b9
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To: b9

other people’s money


46 posted on 04/28/2008 9:40:09 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: b9

“Well, maybe if Chuck Norris had endorsed Duncan Hunter instead of the dog beater’s daddy, the fence would’ve gotten serious play.”

If Chuck had gotten Huck to talk like this instead of insulting us all because we want the border secure, it would have been nice.


47 posted on 04/29/2008 9:02:33 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: kellynla

“I like Duncan BUT he needs to win a statewide office like governorship before he tries to run for POTUS.”

Right....like the 3 finalists we’ve got now? They didn’t neet that, did they?

Hunter got nowhere because he’s a conservatives. The GOP and media aren’t about to let a conservative get anywhere.


48 posted on 04/29/2008 9:04:23 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: AuntB
“Hunter got nowhere because he’s a conservative?”

and what was Ronald Reagan's excuse...

try again...LOL

“I like Duncan BUT he needs to win a statewide office like governorship before he tries to run for POTUS.”

Right....like the 3 finalists we’ve got now? They didn’t neet that, did they?

Exactly my point, BECAUSE we don't have a very good field of candidates we're stuck with a RINO & 2 ‘Rats...none of whom have EVER balanced a budget in their political careers!

Now, what we need is for true blue conservatives to run for political office especially in congress and for governorships so we have a better field of candidates to choose from for POTUS!

49 posted on 04/29/2008 9:20:37 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

“and what was Ronald Reagan’s excuse...”

If the GOP had gotten it’s way, Reagan wouldn’t have made it either, would he?


50 posted on 04/29/2008 9:28:34 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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