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Nurse suspended after 'smacking' unruly toddler
Sunday Telegraph ^ | 4th May 2008 | Andrew Chesterton and Sharon Labi

Posted on 05/03/2008 8:55:45 PM PDT by naturalman1975

AN experienced nurse has been suspended after allegedly smacking an unruly toddler in a hospital emergency department.

Jeanette Stewart is on full pay pending the outcome of a police and Department of Community Services investigation into the incident, involving a three-year- old girl, at the Wagga Wagga Base Hospital on April 15.

Did she do the right thing? Have your say in the comment field below and vote in our online poll.

The girl, who was in the emergency department with her mother and a sibling, is said to have been running around and misbehaving when Ms Stewart allegedly grabbed her, smacked her on the bottom and yelled at her to sit down.

It is understood Ms Stewart had feared the child would injure herself or interfere with patient care.

Under mandatory reporting rules, the hospital alerted DoCS, which referred the matter to its joint investigation-review team and police.

Wagga Wagga crime manager Detective Sergeant Dale Holmes said officers expected to interview Ms Stewart in coming days.

"The nature of the alleged assault is simply that the child has been chastised by one of the nursing staff at the hospital in emergency ... a physical assault by being pushed and picked up and being smacked, but that's under investigation,'' he told The Sunday Telegraph.

Asked if the child had been misbehaving, he said: "We believe so, and (the alleged smack) was a result. Whether that constitutes an assault in the circumstances is being investigated''.

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1 posted on 05/03/2008 8:55:45 PM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Only doing the smacking that parents won’t do.


2 posted on 05/03/2008 8:58:14 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: naturalman1975

The poll is currently 83% for swatting the kid, and 16% for the liberals. Swatting the parents doesn’t seem to be an option.


3 posted on 05/03/2008 9:02:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: naturalman1975

Not able to ascertain guilt without a picture of the nurse.


4 posted on 05/03/2008 9:02:26 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

5 posted on 05/03/2008 9:06:44 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975; dynachrome

Yes, political correctness comes second to saving lives... 83% ...(391 votes)

No, smacking children is wrong, especially someone else’s... 16% ...(79 votes)

Total votes: 470

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph?id=#vote-now-form


6 posted on 05/03/2008 9:07:34 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: naturalman1975

Summary execution?


7 posted on 05/03/2008 9:07:47 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Graybeard58
Here she is..seriously:


8 posted on 05/03/2008 9:08:14 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: naturalman1975

Lesson to learn smack the parent instead.


9 posted on 05/03/2008 9:08:27 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (If you don't put it in context they will put it in their context.)
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To: Graybeard58

The picture is in the article, but regardless of appearance, she was correct.

A pity she could spank the parents as well.


10 posted on 05/03/2008 9:09:14 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principlenylon for greenhouses)
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To: naturalman1975

You have to leave other people’s children alone, except in your dreams.


11 posted on 05/03/2008 9:10:03 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: buck jarret

Does that rule out tripping as they run by?


12 posted on 05/03/2008 9:15:16 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (The devil made me do it!,.......................................................( well, not really.)
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To: naturalman1975
The kid needed to be scolded/swatted on the bottom, preferably by her mother. Unruly kids in public are irritating enough, but when you don't feel well and are suffering the wait at the hospital, you really don't need to endure a rambunctious, undisciplined 3-year-old. If it was to the point that the nurse felt compelled to act, I gotta come down on the nurse's side.
13 posted on 05/03/2008 9:15:28 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: naturalman1975

Poll Results

Thanks for voting, here are the results so far:

Yes, political correctness comes second to saving lives
83% (405 votes)
No, smacking children is wrong, especially someone else's
16% (81 votes)
Total votes: 486

14 posted on 05/03/2008 9:16:03 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: TheBattman
Here she is..seriously:

That is the most gawdawful looking three year old toddler I've EVER seen!

Over fed, too. Shame on the parents!

15 posted on 05/03/2008 9:16:50 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: naturalman1975

i’d hit it


16 posted on 05/03/2008 9:17:10 PM PDT by Selmore (If your gonna take the hill, take the hill.)
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To: naturalman1975; martin_fierro; aculeus; dighton; Jeremiah Jr

Guilty! She goes to the top of the top 10 list of “Why parents need to discipline their own kids (or hire someone who is willing to do it).”

Safe bet this lady can succeed with just one swat.


17 posted on 05/03/2008 9:17:21 PM PDT by Ezekiel
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To: ApplegateRanch

Indeed. And forcing her to wear that red hat. Cruel.


18 posted on 05/03/2008 9:17:50 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Not now, Not ever!

That is not a nice thing to do to someone. Didn’t your momma teach you that?


19 posted on 05/03/2008 9:17:58 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: Graybeard58

A beauty queen she ain’t, but she is apparently highly respected at her workplace, and in a responsible position. A child running freely around in a casualty ward can cause a serious accident to themselves or others.


20 posted on 05/03/2008 9:24:07 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: naturalman1975

A Wagga story! Thanks for posting. Wagga has not been on FR, I think, since the story of the guy who was being prosecuted for having a house painted purple. The purple house story. Beloved of libetarians everywhere.


21 posted on 05/03/2008 9:25:46 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

When I was a kid everyone was allowed to tell you to behave. I don’t remember getting any swats from strangers but my aunts and uncles had no problems stepping in.


22 posted on 05/03/2008 9:27:09 PM PDT by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: naturalman1975
I voted, then got side-tracked on their website...

Australian cheerleaders at the Indian Premier League

23 posted on 05/03/2008 9:27:18 PM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: buck jarret
My momma taught ME that...except in the case of unruly brats incessantly running back & forth in front of me.

In that case, trip them; then yell, “OUCH! That was my foot you stomped! Watch where you're putting those fat feet of yours, you clumsy little twit!”

24 posted on 05/03/2008 9:27:45 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Not now, Not ever!
Does that rule out tripping as they run by?....*snicker*

*evil laughing* LOL!....HO! HO! HO! */evil laughing*

25 posted on 05/03/2008 9:32:41 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid,doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you..our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: endthematrix
...I understand.....your tardiness.
26 posted on 05/03/2008 9:35:32 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid,doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you..our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: ApplegateRanch

I like the way your momma thinks.


27 posted on 05/03/2008 9:37:09 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (The devil made me do it!,.......................................................( well, not really.)
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To: TheBattman

What’s that on top of her head? Oh wait... that is her head!


28 posted on 05/03/2008 9:38:21 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Ask me again tomorrow.)
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To: endthematrix
They should ask the same questions about these babes. If it would save their lives, I'm all for it!
29 posted on 05/03/2008 9:40:43 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: PAR35

Indeed. The parents should have had the swat. Several of them. I would have been mortified if someone had to ask me to get my child to behave.

On the other hand, ER waits of 18+ hours are not uncommon in our hospital (and I worked there for 17 years so I know of which I speak.) I had one time where I took my older son in to have his head stitched after a misaimed thrown rock by another kid (or maybe not so misaimed...I dunno) and had to wait for 6 hours. It was very hard to keep my younger son quiet that long. Before anyone observes “No mention of Dad!” he was at work and unable to leave. I had no one else to watch my child.


30 posted on 05/03/2008 9:44:50 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: ktscarlett66

I cut my hand and had to get stitches. I had to drag my 3 kids with me to the emergency room. I couldn’t get a hold of my husband and then he had to drive to the hospital in traffic.

I was sooooo glad that they were older (7, 7, and 9). They were all very good.

My twins were wild when they were young!!!!!!!! I’m somewhat sympathetic to parents with wild children. I tried not to take mine out because they were so wild. One of them has a brain injury and has hearing and speech issues. Normal discipline didn’t work. I would literally have to pick her up and move her out of situations. It’s also like you had to say no about a 100 times before it stuck. It took so long for her to be a well behaved kid, but she got there.


32 posted on 05/03/2008 10:12:17 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: lindasmith247
Fantastically amazing. Very well written. I am so amazed at what I can learn by reading.

What a dork!

33 posted on 05/03/2008 10:15:50 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: naturalman1975

I faced a similar situation last week but it didn’t require me touching or hitting anyone’s kids. I simply used my evil Mommy voice to say, “We do not run and yell inside this building.” The unsupervised hellions didn’t seem to want to test me. (shrugs)


34 posted on 05/03/2008 10:21:03 PM PDT by TNdandelion ("I'm down to my last toilet paper tube!")
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To: Not now, Not ever!; buck jarret
Does that include caroming into a nurse or doctor? Does that include tipping over a cart of emergency equipment? Disturbing ill people? We have no way of knowing how the ER was set up, but the child was an endangerment and the parents should have been required to control the child or leave. Failing that ...
35 posted on 05/03/2008 10:25:03 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Live pure, speak true, right wrong and follow The King. (Tennyson))
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To: naturalman1975

Should Read:

Nurse promoted for smacking unruly brat nobody else will discipline.


36 posted on 05/03/2008 10:41:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: lindasmith247

Um. Welcome to FR?


37 posted on 05/03/2008 10:54:21 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Vote for my German Shepherds!!!! They're smarter than what's running!!)
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To: naturalman1975

The mother should be charged with child neglect and the Nurse should be called as an expert witness for the prosecution.


38 posted on 05/03/2008 10:58:37 PM PDT by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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To: endthematrix

Is there even ONE in there that hasn’t had a bad boob job?
Blech!


39 posted on 05/03/2008 11:12:15 PM PDT by derllak
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To: Brad's Gramma
Um. Welcome to FR?

Looks more like she is advertising for a gift site (looking at her .com addy at the end of her post)....sales must be down.

40 posted on 05/03/2008 11:36:20 PM PDT by wanderin
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To: wanderin

Yep. I saw that....but chose NOT to go there & give the site any hits.

Bless my heart and all...


41 posted on 05/04/2008 12:09:04 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Vote for my German Shepherds!!!! They're smarter than what's running!!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

"Indeed. And forcing her to wear that red hat. Cruel."

Yes, she definitely looks as though she neglected to look in a mirror :)

But my comment as it pertains to this errant child is that maybe the mother was sick and distracted or perhaps she was distracted because her other child was sick. As one poster has pointed out, emergency room visits are usually protracted and kids can get very restless. The mom might have been frazzled because she was forced by circumstance to take her children with her to the hospital.

42 posted on 05/04/2008 2:58:49 AM PDT by Mila
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To: lindasmith247
Fantastically amazing. Very well written. I am so amazed at what I can learn by reading. Thanks for taking the time to inform us. Linda

SPAM

AV

43 posted on 05/04/2008 4:18:21 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit
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To: Ken H
It's a spambot

AV

44 posted on 05/04/2008 4:18:58 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit
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To: Brad's Gramma
It's a spambot

AV

45 posted on 05/04/2008 4:19:45 AM PDT by Atomic Vomit
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To: lindasmith247

You have got to be kidding me.


46 posted on 05/04/2008 7:19:50 AM PDT by Eepsy (The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: endthematrix

Thank you for that!

I appreciate your kindness — unlike the bastards that constantly post that horrific picture of Madeline Albright!! ;)


47 posted on 05/04/2008 8:34:13 AM PDT by Levante
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To: luckystarmom

I have sympathy too, especially when we’re talking about an ER wait. It’s pretty difficult for even the best behaved toddler to sit for hours doing nothing. My older son and my stepdaughter, good toddlers. Could take them anywhere, they would sit in church or at a dinner, when you told them it was an occasion to sit and listen, they would (although they never got tested with an extremely long ER wait!). My younger son - he was like a little rocket. Into everything. Grocery shopping was really hard, even though I always made him sit in the cart, he was in constant danger of flipping out of it. He was like a little monkey. It was very difficult to take him anywhere. If we went out to eat infrequently, I spent the time between ordering and being served, out in the parking lot with him always.

It wasn’t lackadaisical parenting. The older two weren’t like that. He got spanked sometimes but it had no effect. You can’t punish a toddler by taking away things like you can an older child- he had no video games or cell phone or driving privileges. Trying to engage him in quiet activities was useless. Put him in an ER waiting area for hours would have been my worst nightmare. Putting him in a treatment room for a few hours with hundreds of things he shouldn’t touch would have been crazymaking too. I took my oldest last fall to the ER for suspected appendicitis and I’m glad my younger was old enough to stay at the neighbors because if it had been when they were young and we’d had to have been at the ER for 10 hours, I can just imagine what havoc he would have caused!


48 posted on 05/04/2008 10:18:46 AM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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Thanks to George76 for da ping! (a good smack on the behind helped dynachrome's behavior when younger)

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49 posted on 05/04/2008 10:53:43 AM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: darkwing104

#31 looks like someone signed up to spam FR.


50 posted on 05/04/2008 10:55:55 AM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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