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Navy launches U.S.S. Independence, first of new class of weapons-bristling speedster trimarans
DVICE (SciFi) ^ | May 2008

Posted on 05/07/2008 8:24:11 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot

We’ve been hearing rumblings about the U.S. Navy’s triple-hulled ships, but here’s one that was launched last month, the U.S.S Independence. Built by General Dynamics, it’s called a “littoral combat ship” (LCS), and the trimaran can move huge weapons around faster than any ship in the Navy. Ironic that with all that high tech built in, the ship reminds us of the Merrimac ironclad from Civil War days.

Littoral means close to shore, and that’s where these fleet-hulled babies will operate, tailor-made for launching helicopters and armored vehicles, sweeping mines and firing all manner of torpedoes, missiles and machine guns.

These ships were designed to be relatively inexpensive — this one’s a bargain at $208 million — and the navy plans to build 55 of them. This trimaran is the first of the new fire-breathing breed, ready to scoot out of dry dock at a rumored 60 knots. It's like a speedy and heavily-armed aircraft carrier for helicopters.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: littoral; navy; ships; trimarans; trimorans
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This is cool as hell!

1 posted on 05/07/2008 8:24:11 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: 1rudeboy; Mase; expat_panama; Rusty0604; Jim 0216; xjcsa; VegasCowboy

Ping!


2 posted on 05/07/2008 8:25:02 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; LUV W; BIGLOOK; Kathy in Alaska; SandRat; MS.BEHAVIN; Allegra; tongue-tied

It sure is ... wild!


3 posted on 05/07/2008 8:27:34 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That forward 57mm mount looks like it will get wet FREQUENTLY. It’s gonna be a maintenance monster.


4 posted on 05/07/2008 8:28:41 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Truly awesome!

Go Navy!


5 posted on 05/07/2008 8:28:55 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

For 200M !? Holy crap. That’s like, pocket change.


6 posted on 05/07/2008 8:29:14 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
this one’s a bargain at $208 million

I thought that there had been large cost overruns with the program.

7 posted on 05/07/2008 8:29:14 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: farlander
Let's build 50 a year, forever!
8 posted on 05/07/2008 8:30:47 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Whoa baby.....this one’s cool.


9 posted on 05/07/2008 8:31:12 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Very cool indeed, and a BTT. Uh...the part about “scooting out of drydock at 60 knots” is a bit of journalistic hyperbole. Or at least so I hope. Something like this shooting through a harbor at highway speed...(shudder)...


10 posted on 05/07/2008 8:31:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ExpatGator

I was thing the same thing....


11 posted on 05/07/2008 8:31:31 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

SWEET!!


12 posted on 05/07/2008 8:31:53 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Toddsterpatriot
In scary ass war paint.

"What the f*** is THAT?": last words of a Somali pirate.


13 posted on 05/07/2008 8:32:49 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

bump


14 posted on 05/07/2008 8:34:06 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Toddsterpatriot

15 posted on 05/07/2008 8:34:11 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Nice. The draft on that sucker must be phenomenal.


16 posted on 05/07/2008 8:34:11 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Under construction


17 posted on 05/07/2008 8:35:00 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

any info on size of the crew


18 posted on 05/07/2008 8:36:30 PM PDT by lajollasurfer
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To: Toddsterpatriot

First deployment - Iranian area of operations.


19 posted on 05/07/2008 8:36:35 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Heh! The old Boatswain’s Mate in me is saying, “Man! Would I love to paint that lady!”


20 posted on 05/07/2008 8:36:51 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: lajollasurfer
Even the Bridge is way cool.


21 posted on 05/07/2008 8:38:16 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The shape of that thing looks a little bit stealthy.


22 posted on 05/07/2008 8:38:16 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: PAR35

news article dated 6 weeks ago:

Navy’s $5.2 billion Littoral Combat Ship, which has had such extensive troubles that the service expects the cost of its first two ships to exceed their combined budget of $472 million by more than 100 percent.08:17, 1 April 2008


23 posted on 05/07/2008 8:39:12 PM PDT by lajollasurfer
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To: lajollasurfer

“The Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) Class Squadron (CLASSRON) was formally established Feb. 15 in San Diego.

Vice Adm. Terrance Etnyre, Commander, Naval Surface Force, joined Capt. John Riley, the new CLASSRON commodore, to cut the ribbon at the new command’s headquarters.

While the first two ships of the LCS class are still under construction, the staff of the new CLASSRON will still be extremely busy with all of the challenges associated with developing new processes to support these 21st-century warships.

The first four ships in the class each have blue and gold crews that will consist of 40 personnel. The aviation detachment will be comprised of 20 personnel, and the mission modules that can be changed depending on the ship’s tasking will comprise of 15 personnel.”

http://www.c3f.navy.mil/newspage_LCS_CLASSRON_Established.htm


24 posted on 05/07/2008 8:41:32 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: lajollasurfer

More crew info

http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=25034


25 posted on 05/07/2008 8:43:12 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

How about an aircraft carrier for $45million built within six months of an order:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/11226603/Mobile_Coastal_Defence_Systems.html


26 posted on 05/07/2008 8:43:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: RandallFlagg

Maybe they’d let us back on active duty for a cruise. I’ll lie about your age if you’ll lie about mine... ;-)


27 posted on 05/07/2008 8:43:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The General Dynamics Littoral Combat Ship design is based on a proven Austal (Henderson, Australia) high-speed trimaran hull that is currently operating at sea.
http://www.austal.com/

General Dynamics Littoral Combat Team
http://www.gdlcs.com/


28 posted on 05/07/2008 8:46:57 PM PDT by endthematrix (Now that we use our corn for fuel, when do we eat coal for dinner?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

57 mm is only a six-pounder gun. There was a time when we built things with sixteen-inch guns, each capable of firing a 2700 pound projectile. When you have nine sixteen inch guns (or 12 guns, as planned for the Montana class), you don’t NEED a helicopter to demolish anything within 25 miles (more with rocket-assisted projectiles).


29 posted on 05/07/2008 8:49:07 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Uh, what are we going to do with a fleet of coastal ships?

Is this for the Coast Guard, or to do drug interdiction in the Caribbean?

They aren't thinking of steaming a tri-hull over the ocean to say, the Red Sea, are they?
How will they transport this thing?
And what will support it?

30 posted on 05/07/2008 8:49:42 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: ExpatGator

yeah I agree. They should be able to put it in a fiberglass shell just to keep the water off it.


31 posted on 05/07/2008 8:49:45 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Effin A!

That is one mean ship.


32 posted on 05/07/2008 8:50:16 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Nice but
1) They seem to actually cost over 400 million.
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2008/02/defense_lcscosts_080205n/
2) No Verticle Launch system limits missile capabilities. is 16 block 41 VLS tubes too much to ask for?
33 posted on 05/07/2008 8:51:32 PM PDT by rmlew (Down with the ersatz immanentization of the eschaton known as Globalism.)
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To: bill1952
Uh, what are we going to do with a fleet of coastal ships?

Stop the Chinese invasion of Taiwan?

34 posted on 05/07/2008 8:51:51 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: bill1952
Far as I understand this is for special operations missions.
In other words this is the Seal team’s boat.
35 posted on 05/07/2008 8:52:56 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Crewing of a traditional type ship usually consists of in excess of 250 men, but an MCDS unit can operate on a ships crew of 10 / 15 men plus the necessary weapons technicians-thus creating a vast saving in manpower and running costs.
Aircraft / Helicopter Carrier

Technology is sweet.


36 posted on 05/07/2008 8:52:59 PM PDT by lajollasurfer
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To: CurlyDave
I wonder how large the radar cross section is.
37 posted on 05/07/2008 8:53:02 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Back in the late 60’s the U.S. Navy contacted NBC and Gene Roddenberry about the bridge design of the fictional Starship Enterprise. They were impressed with how orderly it was, and began a study about integrating the design in to navy ships.

I see they learned their lesson well. m:o)

38 posted on 05/07/2008 8:56:35 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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To: FormerACLUmember

You know for just a few dollars more they could have put primer on the boat to keep the paint from peeling off.


39 posted on 05/07/2008 8:58:31 PM PDT by tlb
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To: Billthedrill

Deal.


40 posted on 05/07/2008 8:59:32 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: STARWISE
Aloha Starwise!

60 knots sounds like a stretch.

San Diego to Pearl Harbor in two days?
41 posted on 05/07/2008 9:04:13 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (MSM-Keelhauling the News daily!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Where’s the Phalanx?


42 posted on 05/07/2008 9:05:52 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: STARWISE

SAN DIEGO (NNS) — The Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) Class Squadron (CLASSRON) was formally established Feb. 15 in San Diego.

I have seen then inperson. Really great.


43 posted on 05/07/2008 9:15:14 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Fair winds and following seas!!

Go Navy!


44 posted on 05/07/2008 9:16:40 PM PDT by Dominnae (When asked by a Persian emissary for his weapons, King Leonidas said "Come and take them.")
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To: bill1952
>>>They aren't thinking of steaming a tri-hull over the ocean to say, the Red Sea, are they? <<<

It's perfectly capable of crossing oceans. And I imagine its promary mission will be in Persian Gulf waters....off Iran perhaps.

What worries you about an ocean passage in a tri-hull? It looks to be destroyer sized, and the trihull will give one heck of a lot smoother ride!

45 posted on 05/07/2008 9:32:54 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Cat ping!


46 posted on 05/07/2008 9:56:20 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Is the purpose of the 2nd amendment to brag at gun shows and chat rooms?)
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To: BIGLOOK

IIRC The HUGE Containership Sealand McLean holds the Pacific crossing record at four days eighteen hours. I think that was San Francisco to Japan. The ship was huge, but was one of I think three traded to the Government in the seventies as they were too expensive to operate, and the theory of the times that speed was everything to compete in that Industry turned out to be not true.

My point is that a vessel the size of the SL-7 Sealand McLean, (it was the largest of its day, and way ahead of its time within the industry) can cross the Pacific in that amount of time, it’s quite realistic to believe these trimarans could achieve that stated speed.


47 posted on 05/07/2008 9:57:43 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Westlander
No phalanx CIWS. It has a 21-Cell Rolling Airframe Missile Launcher, a 57mm cannon, and two 50 cals.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/gd-lcs-side-001.jpg

48 posted on 05/07/2008 9:58:02 PM PDT by rmlew (Down with the ersatz immanentization of the eschaton known as Globalism.)
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To: bill1952
Uh, what are we going to do with a fleet of coastal ships?

Take care of Pirates and Persians.

It's not all that big. Plenty of things could carry it, if it can'd self deploy.

LOA — 127.6 m
BOA — 31.6 m
Draft - 4.4m
Displacement Full Load ~ 3120MT
Max Speed (Lightload) >40 knots
Mission Bay: 1,100 sq.m. (11,800 sq. ft.)
Flight Deck :1,030 sq.m. (11,100 sq. ft.)

49 posted on 05/07/2008 10:16:58 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: HardStarboard

>What worries you about an ocean passage in a tri-hull?

Years of sailing and many dead multi-hull ocean sailor friends.


50 posted on 05/07/2008 10:17:27 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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