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Let Lauren Live!
ChristtheKingMaine ^ | May 7, 2008 | Judie Brown

Posted on 05/08/2008 3:14:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

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To: All; jy22077; floriduh voter
Ping to this thread by jy22077 on situations like that of Terri. Thanks, FV, for the ping.

Many families are faced with decisions about what to do when their loved ones suffer serious brain injury. When individuals are unlikely to come out of so-called "vegetative states," should we discontinue nourishing them by tube feeding? Is there anything wrong with causing patients in compromised states to die from starvation and dehydration under these circumstances? We all lived through such a decision when Terri Schiavo died in 2005 in Florida. Her death raised disturbing ethical questions that continue to reverberate in society today..........

The Modern Anathema Of Living With Brain Damage (About Terri Schiavo)

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601 posted on 06/16/2008 6:19:23 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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A Bishop on embryonic research in a thread by wagglebee...

ORLANDO, FL, June 13, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a 191-1 vote, the U.S. bishops adopted a proposed statement on embryonic stem cell research during Friday's session of the U.S. Conference of Bishops spring meeting in Orlando, which concludes on Saturday. On numerous occasions the statement refers to embryonic stem cell research as "killing", and condemns three common arguments in support of the practice.........

State-Funded Embryo Research "Makes Taxpayers Complicit in Killing", say Bishops

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602 posted on 06/16/2008 6:27:28 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee; Etixos; floriduh voter; 8mmMauser

What should we expect from a troll who calls Free Republic “any one chat board”

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603 posted on 06/16/2008 6:57:38 AM PDT by BykrBayb (www.lifeforlauren.org Þ)
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To: 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; BykrBayb; Lesforlife
Some time in mid-September a Manitoba judge will make what is likely to be a life or death decision in the Samuel Golubchuk case.

Is it just me or is there something inherently surreal about the fact that we live in a society where people seem to accept the premise that a judge should be allowed to decide if a person who has committed no crime should live or die?

Canada has not executed anyone in over 45 years and the abolished capital punishment primarily out of concern that an innocent person might be put to death. Yet now they seem to think that they have the moral and legal authority to execute a many who hasn't even been accused of a crime. It is disgusting.

604 posted on 06/16/2008 6:59:28 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Superb analysis.

Brings to mind the scripture - “Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil.”

Isaiah 5:20


605 posted on 06/16/2008 7:24:10 AM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: wagglebee

Superb analysis.

Brings to mind the scripture - “Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil.”

Isaiah 5:20


606 posted on 06/16/2008 7:24:22 AM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: wagglebee
Capital punishment for the infirmed. Meanwhile, I was googling for an unrelated matter and found the Petition to Remove Mikey Schiavy as guardian. The propagandists who frequent here should read some facts for a change instead of spewing lies.

http://www6.miami.edu/ethics/schiavo/Nov_22_2002_Petition_to_remove_MS_as_guardian.html

607 posted on 06/16/2008 8:04:32 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: wagglebee

http://www6.miami.edu/ethics/schiavo/Nov_22_2002_Petition_to_remove_MS_as_guardian.html


608 posted on 06/16/2008 8:05:34 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: wagglebee

early Wham.


609 posted on 06/16/2008 8:07:32 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: wagglebee; KDD
Terri's group Wham's big hit was "Wake Me Up Before You Go, Go." (the irony).

She was pronounced dead in Feb. of 1990 by one person (HINO) who was stunned when she came around. She then woke up for fifteen years of living and then she was killed by a conglomerate of the nastiest people in Amerika.

610 posted on 06/16/2008 8:11:10 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: floriduh voter

What is “early Wham”? From what I remember, the painful ordeal of them being on the radio ALL THE TIME only lasted from about late 1983 to mid 1985.


611 posted on 06/16/2008 8:24:06 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Early Wham is the only Wham there was. They broke up w/George Michael and a solo career and Andy went into auto racing.


612 posted on 06/16/2008 8:39:38 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: floriduh voter
Early Wham is the only Wham there was.

Right, they sucked and people figured it out VERY QUICKLY!

613 posted on 06/16/2008 9:05:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; Lesforlife; Sun; Dante3

It is prophetic though for Terri. In their first video for Wake Me Up Before You Go, Go, everyone in the video wore white t-shirts that said “CHOOSE LIFE” (Wham). Too bad I just thought of it or we could have played that video all over the place before Terri was murdered.


614 posted on 06/16/2008 9:15:54 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: floriduh voter

Interesting, I’ll have to look into that.


615 posted on 06/16/2008 9:18:48 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Sam Golubchuk update...

Sounds like the death team is withdrawing from the killing project. They are taking their killing instruments and stomping off. No more killing of innocents for them unless we are all nice to them again. What is a poor facility to do when the professional killers leave, hire amateurs or maybe contract with a professional hit man?

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The Winnipeg Regional Health Authority is working with Grace Hospital to ensure that patients get the care they need after two more doctors resigned from the critical-care unit, effectively halving its number of physicians.

The doctors' departures are the latest addition to the controversy over an 84-year-old man on life support.

The case of Samuel Golubchuk is set for court in mid-September, and until then, doctors at Winnipeg's Grace Hospital have been ordered to continue treating the elderly man.

Mr. Golubchuk has been on life support since November, and has a feeding tube and a ventilator.

Earlier this month, Anand Kumar said he wouldn't accept rotations at Grace Hospital that involved providing care to Mr. Golubchuk, calling further treatment, such as surgically hacking away at skin ulcers, tantamount to "torture."

Yesterday, a lawyer involved in the case confirmed ICU director Bojan Paunovic and specialist David Easton have also declined shifts at the hospital.

Mr. Golubchuk's family lawyer, Neil Kravetsky, said Dr. Kumar and Dr. Paunovic had filed letters earlier this month, while Dr. Easton informed the family in writing last week.

According to court documents, chief medical officer Elizabeth Cowden expressed concern that the ICU could be forced to close if other physicians followed Dr. Kumar's lead and resigned.

She said in an affidavit that it would be difficult to recruit specialists to the hospital's rotations because many physicians would feel that providing medical treatment in this situation would go against their professional ethics.

But Heidi Graham, a spokeswoman for the Winnipeg Health Region says critical-care doctors from the city's other hospitals are being asked to take on shifts to support Grace Hospital's three remaining doctors on the unit.

She declined comment on Mr. Golubchuk's care, saying the matter is before the court.

Dr. Kumar also declined comment yesterday.

Two more doctors resign over life-support case

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616 posted on 06/17/2008 3:21:48 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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More stories from Canada repeat the group tantrum news...

It appears there have been more resignations at the Grace Hospital over the care of an 84-year-old Jewish man on life support.

Two more doctors have left the Grace Hospital, at least one of them is named in the civil action filed by Samuel Golubchuk's family.

The Winnipeg Regional Health Authority confirms two more critical care physicians have resigned. The RHA says it is managing the situation because some doctors from other hospitals are coming to work at the Grace when needed to deal with the losses.

Two weeks ago Doctor Anand Kumar left the Grace refusing to treat Golubchuk calling the situation an abomination tantamount to torture. The Jewish man's family is fighting the hospital in court to prevent its staff from removing the brain injured man's life support.

More doctors quit over Golubchuk case?

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617 posted on 06/17/2008 3:30:05 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Karen Weber update...

This is written by Bobby Schindler.

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LifeNews.com Note: Bobby Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, the disabled woman whose husband won a court order to subject her to a painful euthanasia death. Since her death, the Schindler family run the Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation that helps disabled people obtained appropriate medical care and legal help. Opinion and editorial articles like this one do not necessarily reflect the views of LifeNews.com.

Recently, yet another situation similar to that of my sister Terri Schiavo has made headlines. In West Palm Beach, Florida, Raymond Weber is asking the court to dehydrate his disabled wife, Karen, to death.

If you have read any of the reports in mainstream media, it’s just another case of a husband looking out for the “best interest” of his spouse. And just as in Terri’s case, Raymond Weber is asking the government to deliberately kill his wife who is not dying and is guilty of nothing more than having difficulty swallowing and therefore needing help, in the form of a feeding tube, to eat.

Not surprisingly, in a story by the AP, was a quote from the husband’s attorney who so touchingly referred to his client’s brain-injured wife as a “vegetable,” thus offending the tens of thousands of people and their families who do live with a profound brain injury.

The reporter also wrote that the decision whether Karen should live or die will depend upon whether or not a committee finds her “competent” to go on living. Yes, that is correct, competent enough to live. I guess passing an IQ test will be next.

Factors such as what is being taught in our medical schools, the breakdown of our health care system, the powerful influence of assisted suicide organizations, and the propaganda of our mainstream media have taken their toll.

As a result, the physically and mentally “inferior” are being denied the most basic care—food and water—in our nation’s medical facilities every day. (Thank goodness we have laws making it a felony if we do the same to an animal, although I would expect there would be a greater outcry if it were the family pets at risk.)

Equally as disturbing is the fact that our politicians, including our two presidential candidates, ignore this issue and because of it are failing in one of the most important responsibilities they have as leaders—to protect our most vulnerable citizens.

Perhaps our general public doesn’t have a clue as to how widespread this problem is in our nation today. This ignorance is in large part because of a stealth and powerful lobby who support patient dehydration based on quality of life judgments. This has slowly but surely changed our laws regarding food and water. Nutrition and hydration through a feeding tube, once considered basic care, are now recognized as “artificial nutrition and hydration”—and therefore a form of “medical treatment.”

Read the rest of the story here.

Competent Enough to Live -- Declaring the Physically Disabled "Inferior People"

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618 posted on 06/17/2008 3:43:21 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife
I wish our own state had fighters like in Colorado, combatting the RINOvirus every step of the way.

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"You're headed for another election catastrophe."

Contact: Donna Ballentine, Colorado Right To Life, 303 753-9394, Office@ColoradoRightToLife.org

DENVER, June 16 /Christian Newswire/ -- "Colorado Right To Life is warning Dick Wadhams, the state Republican Party chairman, that by shunning their pro-life conservative base they're headed for another election catastrophe in November," said Joe Riccobono, CRTL president.

"Wadhams banned the nation's oldest Right To Life organization from their state convention while he welcomed a radical pro-abortion group," said CRTL vice president Leslie Hanks. "The state's top Republican is out of touch with his own party's base, where 4 out of 5 Republicans at the convention voted to defend life beginning at fertilization."

The thousands of convention delegates passed all forty resolutions offered, except for the only one that failed, the pro-abortion Resolution #21. Convention rules require literature to be approved by the party chairman. Wadhams allowed the misnamed Republican Majority for Choice to distribute flyers quoting him about the Personhood Amendment 48 sponsors as "on the fringe of the pro-life movement, and they do not represent by any stretch of the imagination the hundreds of thousands of pro-life Coloradans."

130,000 pro-lifers signed the Personhood petition. Delegates overwhelmingly passed all uncompromising pro-life resolutions including the 78% vote affirming that "life begins at conception." 20-year-old Personhood Amendment sponsor Kristi Burton was elected among the top ten most popular of the 46 national delegates.

The Denver Post last week quoted Wadhams regarding conservative leader Dr. James Dobson's refusal to support the Republican presidential candidate. "Dobson's comments that he would not vote for the party's presumptive nominee, John McCain, won't hurt." Further, according to the Post, Wadhams agreed that the party should "avoid social issues," and the liberal ColoradoPols.com headlined their report about the state Republican chairman: "Wadhams: Dobson Is So Yesterday."

"Wadhams sells out Dobson and pro-life voters in favor of pro-abortion lobbyists," said Hanks. "Social issues have motivated Republicans in every presidential cycle since 1980."

In sharp contrast, the ColoradoRTL.org candidate questionnaire has identified many heroic leaders running for office. "But Wadhams has moved U.S. Senate candidate Bob Schaffer to the liberal middle, and he's trying to drag the Colorado GOP to the left."

"Wadhams promotion of abortion will be the straw that elects Democrat Mark Udall," said Riccobono. Wadhams pushing the party to the left helps explain the Rocky Mountain News report that Bob Schaffer's convention speech received, "the loudest applause… when he criticized his own party."

In the past, Schaffer fought for protection of innocent human life from the moment of fertilization. "Now he's allowing the party boss Dick Wadhams to position his own former pro-life belief as bad for the Colorado GOP," said Riccobono, "so Schaffer will be blamed for their third election strike out and game over."

Right To Life Warns Colorado Republican Chairman

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619 posted on 06/17/2008 3:50:38 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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This on Karen Weber comes from UPI!

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Life support debate over stroke victim
Another right to life battle is brewing in Florida. Karen Weber, 57, is paralized and her husband wants her feeding tube removed. The case is similar to that of Terri Schiavo (pictured) who died March 31, 2005, following a lengthy battle between her husband and parents.
OKEECHOBEE, Fla., June 16 (UPI) -- Family members are battling over whether to remove a feeding tube from a Florida woman who remains paralyzed and speechless after a stroke seven months ago.

Karen Weber, 57, remains attached to a feeding tube in a nursing home despite the belief of her husband, Raymond, that she would want the plug pulled and be transferred to hospice care. But her mother, Martha Tatro, and other family members say she is alert and responsive in a developing legal battle reminiscent of the 2005 Terry Schiavo case, the Palm Beach Post reported Monday.

"Mr. Weber is of the opinion that Karen does not want to live as a vegetable and that she would prefer the body to take its natural course," said his attorney, Colin Cameron.

"She blinks for yes or no. She shakes her head. She waves goodbye and she can laugh at jokes," Tatro said.

An Okeechobee County judge has issued a court order blocking removal of the tube until a court-appointed medical panel decides whether she is capable of deciding her own fate.

Life support debate over stroke victim

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620 posted on 06/17/2008 3:56:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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