Skip to comments.Voter ID Battle Shifts to Proof of Citizenship
Posted on 05/12/2008 1:21:58 AM PDT by neverdem
The battle over voting rights will expand this week as lawmakers in Missouri are expected to support a proposed constitutional amendment to enable election officials to require proof of citizenship from anyone registering to vote.
The measure would allow far more rigorous demands than the voter ID requirement recently upheld by the Supreme Court, in which voters had to prove their identity with a government-issued card.
Sponsors of the amendment which requires the approval of voters to go into effect, possibly in an August referendum say it is part of an effort to prevent illegal immigrants from affecting the political process. Critics say the measure could lead to the disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of legal residents who would find it difficult to prove their citizenship.
Voting experts say the Missouri amendment represents the next logical step for those who have supported stronger voter ID requirements and the next battleground in how elections are conducted. Similar measures requiring proof of citizenship are being considered in at least 19 state legislatures. Bills in Florida, Kansas, Oklahoma and South Carolina have strong support. But only in Missouri does the requirement have a chance of taking effect before the presidential election.
In Arizona, the only state that requires proof of citizenship to register to vote, more than 38,000 voter registration applications have been thrown out since the state adopted its measure in 2004. That number was included in election data obtained through a lawsuit filed by voting rights advocates and provided to The New York Times. More than 70 percent of those registrations came from people who stated under oath that they were born in the United States, the data showed.
Already, 25 states, including Missouri, require some form of identification at the polls. Seven of those states require or can...
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voter fraud should cause an immediate loss of 501(c)(3) status.
That's how we know that the leftists' anti-ID agenda is bullcrap. For a pittance (covered by donations), their volunteers could assist the poor and downtrodden in writing to the appropriate bureaucracy to obtain a birth certificate. It's not hard to do, and even the notoriously corrupt and inefficient Peoples' Republic of Maryland managed (in 2003) to get me a new birth cert in about 2 weeks time.
Sorry, I should have been more specific. I understand your point. I was referring to incompetence on the part of the state.
I have heard that argument as well, but I reject it, of course. If these non-citizen/illegals want to vote, they can become legal citizens first!
I thought it was such a ridiculous argument that I dismiss it out of hand as an example of moonbattery.
In a sane world, ACORN would have their tax exempt status withdrawn, all of their voter registrations canceled and be indicted under the RICO statues.
< Breathe, Bustard ..... >
Sanity absconded for parts unknowns years ago ...
I’ve known a couple people here illegally claiming that they should have the right to vote because the outcome of the US elections affects the world. One of them claimed that he didn’t want to be a US citizen though as he liked to travel and he wouldn’t feel comfortable traveling on a US passport.
It’s no wonder we don’t get along with the left.
Their thought processes are as f’d up as a pile of clothes hangers.
Flicken is and unabashedly open borders advocate.
That's a damn good point.
A really big issue here in California. In addition to the massive illegal alien presence in Los Angeles and the Central Valley, we have significant numbers of LPR's here, and H1-B's.
Predictably, they are agitating for the vote. And of course the Leftists want them to get it, because we all know what they will do with it: vote to confiscate money and property from Americans to give to themselves.
San Francisco (of course) is already running the "well lets just let them vote for the school board" bit. This is just incrementalism designed to get the nose under the tent - next it'll be local officials, then county, then....voting for the entire world, whoever happens to have just slithered into the country.
A citizenship test is now plausible because the Arizona law was upheld. Now we'll see if the Republicans in California have the guts to do anything like that.
I think things are pretty much past whatever the Republicans have the guts for. Just a matter of being able to count the votes as they exist on the ground today ... not a few years down the road, but right here and now.
Back in 1994, when prop. 187 passed, things were different. We could say then “hey, if we don’t do something right now, we’re going to have a big problem in five or ten years.” Well, the ‘Rat governor, and a Clinton-appointed Judge managed to gut 187, and guess what? All of the chicken littles of 1994 turned out to be right — we have a big problem, and no longer have the electoral ability to change course.
Now, the current debate in Sacramento is about the exact issue you mention: how to raise taxes on the remaining productive citizens, in order to shower benefits on the lefty voters. Heck of a mess, but danged if I can figure a way out of it at this point.
The asbestos game exposed at last RICO needed badly!
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Democrats want to shut down ID effort:
GOP moves to add photo ID requirement to vote(Missouri)
The Springfield News-Leader | May 11, 2008 | David Lieb
Posted on 05/11/2008 9:23:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks for the ping.