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Dhimmi watch: Muslim chases service animal out of (American!) school
Hot Air ^ | May 12, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 05/12/2008 10:30:52 AM PDT by GOPGuide

A student teacher who uses a service dog for his epilepsy has had to leave his position early after a Muslim student harassed the animal, and worse. Tyler Hurd needs the dog for his protection and for emergency supplies for first-aid responders, but apparently Technical High School in St Cloud believes that Hurd’s needs are secondary to providing a dog-free zone for its Muslim students. Hurd says he feels threatened by the action, as well he should — because the student threatened to kill the dog:

A St. Cloud State University student in a teacher-training program at Technical High School left the school in late April because he says he feared for the safety of his service dog.

The school district calls it a misunderstanding, and officials there say they hoped Tyler Hurd, a 23-year-old junior from Mahtomedi who aspires to teach special education, would continue his training in the district. Hurd said a student threatened to kill his service dog named Emmitt. The black lab is trained to protect Hurd when he has seizures. …

Hurd trained at Talahi Community School and Tech. He said his experience at Talahi was good. The Somali students there warmed to the dog and eventually petted him using paper to keep their hands off his fur, Hurd said.

Things didn’t go as well at Tech, Hurd said. Students there taunted his dog, and he finally felt he had to leave after he was told a student made a threat. Hurd met with Lockhart but said he did not feel comfortable continuing.

King Banaian notes the ridiculous nature of the school’s response:

So let’s take a look at this as a case of competing rights. On one side we have a student with a medical disability. One would think that the Americans with Disabilities Act would allow this student to participate to the fullest extent possible in pursuing his goals, which is to teach in special education. To do so, he is supposed to train in both elementary and secondary school settings. (The article notes that Hurd had no such problems with Somali students at his elementary school assignment.)

On the other side, we have a student at Tech HS whose faith considers dogs unclean and is asserting his right to education in an institution without dogs. This not only affects student teachers; any student with a sight or hearing disability may use a dog for assistance and might want to also attend Tech HS. …

But when rights collide, as they did here, whose rights did they choose to uphold first?

That’s easy. They upheld the rights of the side that threatened capitulation or violence. Instead of expelling the student for his threat and making an example of him, they chose to coddle the student and chase the teacher out of his job. Afterwards, they issued the normal multi-culti mewlings of “misunderstanding”, “growth process”, and emphasizing respect for different cultures.

I’ve got a suggestion: how about teaching that respect to the people who issue threats, instead of their victims? Which person needed an object lesson in respect more, the Somali student or Tyler Hurd?

The First Mate used to use guide dogs here and in California. On more than one occasion, she initially got refused cab service when using Cory. Only after she explained that the law required them to give her access did the cabbies relent.

We have laws in this country, decided on by democratically-elected representatives. If Muslims don’t like these access laws, then let them elect representatives that will reverse them, or failing that, go back to Somalia where violence trumps the law and they would be more comfortable. Shame, shame on Technical High School for buckling under to thugs and abandoning their responsibilities in such a cowardly manner.

Update: When I first read the article and King’s post, I had the impression that the school got complaints from the Muslim students, but the story doesn’t explicitly say that. I’ve reworded the first sentence, although it’s still entirely possible that they complained to the administration. If they didn’t, it makes the administration’s move even worse.


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KEYWORDS: dhimmitude; diversity; doggieping; dogsarebad; education; immigration; islam; muslims; wot
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1 posted on 05/12/2008 10:30:52 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

“If Muslims don’t like these access laws, then let them elect representatives that will reverse them, or failing that, go back to Somalia where violence trumps the law and they would be more comfortable. Shame, shame on Technical High School for buckling under to thugs and abandoning their responsibilities in such a cowardly manner.”

Better still, deportation and if necessary chained to the airplane seat on a one way back to Somalia.


2 posted on 05/12/2008 10:33:45 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: GOPGuide
...and is asserting his right to education in an institution without dogs

That's a right ?
3 posted on 05/12/2008 10:36:40 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: GOPGuide

Where kowtowing to radical Islam meets the ADA...gotta love liberalism...


4 posted on 05/12/2008 10:37:30 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: GOPGuide
asserting his right to education in an institution without dogs

I'm not familiar with that one.

5 posted on 05/12/2008 10:37:32 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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To: stylin19a

“...and is asserting his right to education in an institution without dogs

That’s a right ?”

Under Usama Obama, the Koran will BE the new constitution!


6 posted on 05/12/2008 10:37:48 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: mgc1122; GOPGuide

It’s pretty standard behavior these days. We can’t mention Christmas at all, or pledge allegiance to one nation, under God. They are making demands that they have no right to demand.


7 posted on 05/12/2008 10:38:05 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: GOPGuide

Islam is incompatible with freedom and Western culture. They are here to force us to bend to their rules. When will we stand and fight? When it’s too late?


8 posted on 05/12/2008 10:38:56 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Obama's issues would be better resolved in a psychotherapists office, than in the Oval Office))))
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To: GOPGuide
I suggest he get a new helper dog specifically trained to handle muslims.
9 posted on 05/12/2008 10:40:22 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: GOPGuide

Just as in England, we seem to be developing little cesspools of dhimittude in this country.


10 posted on 05/12/2008 10:40:50 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“When it’s too late?”

It would appear to be so...


11 posted on 05/12/2008 10:41:01 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

ANY business man can refuse service to ANY customer for ANY reason! (accepting all consequences) That said, the stupidest thing ANY business man can do is say ‘no’ to a customer, or refuse to serve him...that said, the best thing that can happen to us here in the USA is for more stupid muslim businessmen to say ‘no’ to more customers, driving themselves out of business that much faster!...entertaining us in the process!


12 posted on 05/12/2008 10:41:43 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: GOPGuide
Islam-a-nazies hate dogs because they give warning to their eternally guilty owners when the eternally innocent islam-a-nazies are sneaking up during the night to justifiably kill the infidels and steal all their stuff. It's the same reason that they hate the Jews because they warned the city of Medina of a sneak attack.
13 posted on 05/12/2008 10:42:00 AM PDT by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: Cicero

The answer appears to be... more dogs.

Lots and lots of dogs.


14 posted on 05/12/2008 10:43:46 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: mgc1122

Better to handcuff them and repatriate them from 40,000 feet.


15 posted on 05/12/2008 10:44:05 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: GOPGuide
Email addresses. I hope these are correct, they are for 1000 44th Avenue North Suite 100 St Cloud MN 56303 tech@isd742.org Principal Roger ziemann: roger.ziemann@isd742.org Lori Lockhart assistant principal lori.lockhart@isd742.org Interim Assistant principal Bruce Hentges bruce.hentges@isd742.org School phone (320) 253-9333
16 posted on 05/12/2008 10:44:18 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Not a journey for the feeble. (Added to the Non- sheeple list of those Not voting for Mccain))
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To: Hacklehead
I'd say the muzzies have an inferiority complex around dogs but that would be stating the obvious - and might be perceived as a slight toward dogs.
17 posted on 05/12/2008 10:45:28 AM PDT by atc23
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To: GOPGuide

Walking Lawsuit.

Disability trumps religion in the public square.

I hope there is a really good lawyer out there who
can sue the pants off this school and set a precedent.


18 posted on 05/12/2008 10:46:59 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: GOPGuide
Never, ever, ever.....EVER, trust someone who doesn't like dogs.

Not liking a particular dog? Sure.

But dogs as a whole? Seriously? There's something wrong with such a person. Very, very wrong.

19 posted on 05/12/2008 10:47:31 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: GOPGuide

Hurd is in a tougher situation than alluded to by the article. If he stays, the Muslim students might try to goad the dog into “attacking” them. Hurd could get into a legal pickle. It’s no wonder he feels uncomfortable.


20 posted on 05/12/2008 10:49:12 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: GOPGuide

“Instead of expelling the student for his threat and making an example of him, they chose to coddle the student and chase the teacher out of his job.”

(1) If the student threatened to kill the teacher’s dog, the teacher should report him to law enforcement. See below.

(2) If they drove the teacher out of his job, he should see a lawyer and drag the school district’s name and reputation through the court system and the newspapers while getting six or even seven figures in punitive damages. (Not legal advice, I am not a lawyer, but common sense says you don’t interfere with a service animal.)

St. Cloud is in Minnesota, isn’t it?


http://www.state.mn.us/portal/mn/jsp/content.do?id=-536888341&subchannel=-536888345&sc2=-536888349&sc3=null&contentid=536907062&contenttype=EDITORIAL&programid=536907021&agency=MSCOD
SERVICE ANIMAL PROTECTION (PUBLIC SAFETY)

Also contained in chapter 8 is a new crime in the criminal code for harming service animals. This new law creates penalties which apply to a person who intentionally and without justification causes harm or death to an animal trained to assist a person with a disability while the animal is involved in that purpose or is in the custody of the person with the disability.

The criminal penalty depends on the level of harm that the animal suffers and ranges from a misdemeanor to a fine of up to $10,000 or a four-year imprisonment or both. This language was passed in response to a specific incident where a service animal was harmed in the course of performing its duties for its owner.

Effective: Most provisions effective 07/01/01; others effective 08/01/01


Q: What’s brown and black, and looks good on an Islamic supremacist who threatens a guide dog or other service animal?
A: A Rottweiler


21 posted on 05/12/2008 10:49:22 AM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: atc23
If I had to pick between giving lodging to a random Muslim, or a random dog, I'd always pick the dog.

There's less chance of getting bit.

22 posted on 05/12/2008 10:50:33 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: GOPGuide
The Somali students there warmed to the dog and eventually petted him using paper to keep their hands off his fur

*shaking head*
23 posted on 05/12/2008 10:50:44 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Average White Conservative)
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To: GOPGuide

This is outrageous!


24 posted on 05/12/2008 10:51:52 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: Hacklehead

25 posted on 05/12/2008 10:53:54 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Huh?)
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To: GOPGuide

Sounds like an ADA violation and communication of a criminal threat to me. Perhaps the LAW should be applied to the students and school.


26 posted on 05/12/2008 10:54:57 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: GOPGuide

Solution: A judiciously applied case of ‘Whupass’ to the aggrieved Muslim followed by expulsion from the school [and hopefully deportation to a country that plays his favorite song, “My Sharia”].


27 posted on 05/12/2008 10:55:54 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Hacklehead

I love it!


28 posted on 05/12/2008 10:56:54 AM PDT by Just Lori (There is nothing democrat-"ic" about democrats.)
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To: GOPGuide

He needs to bring a rabid pit bull who carries a machine gun and sprays attack-killer-bees when he barks.


29 posted on 05/12/2008 10:58:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: OpusatFR

On the basis of facts as presented this is a cold case as far as a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act is concerned, but it has a problem. The disabled person is entitled to reasonable accomodation. Forcing the school to accept the dog and restrain the mohammedan animals would be reasonable accomodation, but placing the handicapped person elsewhere is also a legal option. Which one will the Dhimmi School System select? Not likely that the school is going to make some mohammedan smart-ass behave. We made a mistake when we let the first one of those peculiar followers of the crazy pedophile enter the country.


30 posted on 05/12/2008 10:58:26 AM PDT by mathurine
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To: taxcontrol

It is an ADA violation and he could sue the school, administrators and the sons of pig f’n dogs out of existence.


31 posted on 05/12/2008 10:58:31 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: GOPGuide
If Muslims don’t like these access laws, then let them elect representatives that will reverse them, or failing that, go back to Somalia where violence trumps the law and they would be more comfortable.

Choice "A" presented here is emminently unacceptable; no more acceptable than "electing representatives who will reverse laws prohibiting one man from owning another as property".

32 posted on 05/12/2008 10:58:40 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Two of the ways God shows us he loves us are dogs, and Italian sausage and pepper and onion heroes.

So, Mohammed, “ST-EE-RIKE TWOO!!”


33 posted on 05/12/2008 10:58:49 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: mathurine
...placing the handicapped person elsewhere is also a legal option.

Until every school has a designated "Professional Offendee". What do you do then when the precedent has been established that sharia law overrules ADA?

34 posted on 05/12/2008 11:01:29 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: GOPGuide
Dogs have a sixth sense to recognize danger and evil when they see it. I work with animals every day. The fact the followers of Mohammad, the ragheaded child raper, don't like dogs speaks volumes for the truth.

Yes, I used ragheaded...screw you CAIR members that frequent this site to whine to the moderators.

35 posted on 05/12/2008 11:01:43 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: GOPGuide

Is it me, or is it hard to follow who’s who and who did what where in this story?


36 posted on 05/12/2008 11:03:47 AM PDT by dbwz (kthxbai)
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To: All

37 posted on 05/12/2008 11:08:31 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: GOPGuide
"student teacher who uses a service dog for his epilepsy "

WHF

What is a dog suppose to do for epilepsy, dial 911, what a crock. Just another kid wants his pet in class. Abusing truly handicapped peoples rights.

Now all you peta supporters and animal rights N-jobs have at it.

38 posted on 05/12/2008 11:11:01 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: GOPGuide
‘They upheld the rights of the side that threatened capitulation or violence.’

That's the trend. Even John McCain warns of violence from ‘good immigrants’ if they don't get their way. No matter who wins this election, pandering to these demanding, whining immigrants is going to be the norm.

Get rid of your dog, stop eating bacon and learn Spanish. Let anyone in that wants in and give them special privileges. That's what we've got now, let's just admit it.

"On June 2, McCain rolled out his fear-based defense of amnesty on the campaign trail in Le Mars, Iowa. Responding to a question about deportation of illegal aliens, McCain delivered the following dilly: "In case you hadn't noticed, the thousands of people who have been relegated to ghettos have risen up and burned cars in France,'' McCain said. "They've got huge problems in France. They have tremendous problems. The police can't even go into certain areas in the suburbs of Paris. I don't want that in the suburbs of America.''

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844358/posts

39 posted on 05/12/2008 11:11:12 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

So true. If there ever was a war between Muslims and dogs, I would stock up Alpo and dog biscuits.

Like liberalism, Islam is a mental disorder.


40 posted on 05/12/2008 11:13:25 AM PDT by abishai
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To: Ramius

“The answer appears to be... more dogs.

Lots and lots of dogs”

Pigs are smarter than dogs anyway. I suggest this student needs a trained Yorkshire pig to be his animal helper.


41 posted on 05/12/2008 11:14:06 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: org.whodat

I think I’ve read somewhere that dogs can detect epileptic attacks rig before they happen.

And some can dial 911, I suppose...


42 posted on 05/12/2008 11:17:29 AM PDT by abishai
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To: abishai

RIGHT before they happen. sorry


43 posted on 05/12/2008 11:18:20 AM PDT by abishai
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To: fella

"Islam-a-nazies hate dogs because they give warning to their eternally guilty owners when the eternally innocent islam-a-nazies are sneaking up during the night to justifiably kill the infidels and steal all their stuff"

They also hate the dogs because they know the dogs are superior beings to them and what's more........the dogs know it too:)

44 posted on 05/12/2008 11:19:42 AM PDT by Mila
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To: GOPGuide

Muslims HATE dogs (of all types).

Just another reason I feel no guilt/shame about being very suspicous
of Muslims.

I do at least treat them on a “Verfiy Before Trusting” basis.
That’s about the extent of the English fair-play they deserve given
their history since the bloody era of ‘The Prophet’.
And all the bloody centuries since then.


45 posted on 05/12/2008 11:22:18 AM PDT by VOA
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To: dbwz

It must be you, ‘cuz it’s plain to me:

Disabled student teacher comes to school with his service dog, as usual.
Muslim whack-jobs freak out.
Muslim whack-jobs make threat of violence against the dog.
School administration folds to Muslim whck-job pressure, gives Disabled student teacher no support.
[And this is in spite of the fact that the threats made are, themselves, prosecutable illegal acts under long-established Law.]
Disabled student teacher now looking elsewhere to carry on with his education.
Muslim whack-jobs rule the field...

...in YOUR America.

So, instead of bringing in local Law and getting the threats investigated, and perhaps even prosecuted, the school and the school district caved. The Muslime whack-jobs carry the day, and guy who needs his dog to get along in good health gets a Muslim “left hand of fellowship” from the wimps who should have backed him up, but sold him out, instead.


46 posted on 05/12/2008 11:24:45 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Only The Tribulation is a crucible sufficient to the emergence of a Bride fit for her Bridegroom God)
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To: GOPGuide
Technical High School in St Cloud

In Minnesota?

If so, that's no shock.
Seeing how The Twin Cities are lousy with Skinnies (Somalian "immigrants").
And some charter schools in The Twin Cities no longer allow students
(even NON-Muslims) in art class to portray human faces/bodies
in art class.

That was covered here on FR a couple of years ago.
47 posted on 05/12/2008 11:25:19 AM PDT by VOA
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To: org.whodat
Specially trained dogs can sense an epileptic seizure just BEFORE it occurs. By alerting its master, the person has the opportunity to put himself in a safe position to have the seizure.

Do a little research before knocking something, willya?

I don't trust anyone who does not like dogs. Dogs are the most loyal creatures on earth and willingly would sacrifice their own lives for the sake of their caretakers.

48 posted on 05/12/2008 11:25:41 AM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

But dogs as a whole? Seriously? There’s something wrong with such a person. Very, very wrong.


But then again we already knew that :)


49 posted on 05/12/2008 11:27:21 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: org.whodat

“What is a dog suppose to do for epilepsy, dial 911, what a crock. Just another kid wants his pet in class. Abusing truly handicapped peoples rights.”

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0416_030416_seizuredogs.html


50 posted on 05/12/2008 11:28:26 AM PDT by Mila
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