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Muslim Dog-Hatred [get rid of service dogs]
SCTimes.com | Frontpagemagazine ^ | May 14, 2008 | Dave Aeikens

Posted on 05/14/2008 5:08:52 AM PDT by SJackson

A St. Cloud State University student in a teacher-training program at Technical High School left the school in late April because he says he feared for the safety of his service dog.

The school district calls it a misunderstanding, and officials there say they hoped Tyler Hurd, a 23-year-old junior from Mahtomedi who aspires to teach special education, would continue his training in the district.

Hurd said a student threatened to kill his service dog named Emmitt. The black lab is trained to protect Hurd when he has seizures.

The seizures, which can occur weekly, are from a childhood injury.

The dog has a pouch on his side that assists those who stop to help Hurd.

Hurd said he was unable to finish his 50 hours of field training at Tech. The university waived the remaining 10 hours, he said. He plans to do his student teaching outside a high school setting.

“We came up with a solution because I felt threatened by it," Hurd said.

The school district and university are working to make sure a similar situation doesn't happen.

Kate Steffens, dean of the college of education at St. Cloud State, and Tech assistant principal Lori Lockhart met Thursday.

The threat came from a Somali student who is Muslim, according to Hurd, St. Cloud State and school district officials.

The Muslim faith, which is the dominant faith of Somali immigrants, forbids the touching of dogs.

Hurd trained at Talahi Community School and Tech. He said his experience at Talahi was good. The Somali students there warmed to the dog and eventually petted him using paper to keep their hands off his fur, Hurd said.

Things didn't go as well at Tech, Hurd said. Students there taunted his dog, and he finally felt he had to leave after he was told a student made a threat. Hurd met with Lockhart but said he did not feel comfortable continuing.

Julia Espe, director of curriculum, instruction and assessment for St. Cloud school district, said the school needed to do a better job communicating.

“I think it was a misunderstanding where we didn't really prepare either side for possible implications," Espe said.

Espe said the school's investigation determined the student did not make a direct threat.

“We certainly welcome (Hurd) in our district, and we hope we can get this all resolved so he feels welcome and his dog is welcome," Espe said.

St. Cloud State places about 1,000 students in 240 schools to help prepare them for careers in education.

In St. Cloud school district, 330 are in the field training program Hurd was in and 94 are in student teaching.

Steffens said it is important to respect different cultures and the rights of disabled students.

“I think this is part of the growth process when we become more diverse," Steffens said.

Steffens called Hurd a good student and committed young man.

Gary Loch, who is the diversity coordinator for the district, said the situation was an unfortunate case of miscommunication.

“I'm not quite sure where the breakdown comes into play here," Loch said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
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Steffens said it is important to respect different cultures and the rights of disabled students.

No, it's important to respect the rights of disabled students, the Somali can take his dog hating, woman hating, Jew hating culture back to Somalia. I've no respect for it at all.

1 posted on 05/14/2008 5:08:52 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Rather than doing away with service dogs it would be much better for society in general to get rid of all Muslims.


2 posted on 05/14/2008 5:10:07 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: SJackson
Gary Loch, who is the diversity coordinator for the district, said the situation was an unfortunate case of miscommunication.

Horse hockey!

The communication is very clear. All a mooslin needs to do is whine and whimper and diversity coordinators wet their pants.

Disgusting.

3 posted on 05/14/2008 5:13:44 AM PDT by don-o (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: wallcrawlr

interesting about service dogs.


4 posted on 05/14/2008 5:18:21 AM PDT by merry10
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To: SJackson

It doesn’t look like the school is preparing these Somali students for a cold, hard American reality when they leave its doors. The student might not be so lucky if he made threats like that elsewhere.


5 posted on 05/14/2008 5:20:52 AM PDT by abishai
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To: SJackson

We made our mistake when we didn’t go back in after Black Hawk Down.


6 posted on 05/14/2008 5:21:11 AM PDT by Rappini (Remember Joe Foss)
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To: SJackson

“I’ve no respect for it at all.”

Respect? I have utter contempt for islam.


7 posted on 05/14/2008 5:21:16 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: SJackson

Rather than doing away with service dogs it would be much better for society in general to get rid of all Muslims.

Worth repeating and supporting!


8 posted on 05/14/2008 5:21:42 AM PDT by Misschuck
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To: SJackson

“Release the hounds!”


9 posted on 05/14/2008 5:22:41 AM PDT by NewCenturions (I've got a posthumous crush on Dave Guard)
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To: SJackson
The Muslim faith, which is the dominant faith of Somali immigrants, forbids the touching of dogs.

And the Mohammedan's problem was what? You're not suppose to touch other peoples' service dogs anywany.

Wretched barbarians!

10 posted on 05/14/2008 5:23:37 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: SJackson

what kind of messed up “religion/culture” forbids the touching of dogs? you have to teach children to hate dogs unless they’ve been bitten.. it’s natural for children to love animals.. and its a natural reaction to want to pet animals.. they are truly screwed up.


11 posted on 05/14/2008 5:23:45 AM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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To: Joe Boucher

“Rather than doing away with service dogs it would be much better for society in general to get rid of all Muslims.”

Maybe we ought to just turn the tables on them, and do what they do: Convert them to Christianity (or Judaism, or Buddhism, or Hinduism, or almost any other ism), enslave them, or kill them. Give them the choice.


12 posted on 05/14/2008 5:26:38 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: SJackson
"the Somali can take his dog hating, woman hating, Jew hating culture back to Somalia."

Ditto that. Expel the little bastards and their families, not from the school, but from the country.

13 posted on 05/14/2008 5:27:18 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: don-o

“All a mooslin needs to do is whine and whimper and diversity coordinators wet their pants.”

No kidding.


14 posted on 05/14/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: SJackson

Let me see....an American....in America....having to bow down to a religious belief in a school where church and state are to be seperated. Having to fear for his aand his dogs life by a person from a country where the average income is $10.00 U.S. a year that his taxes are probably paying for the Muslim scums education. Did I leave anything out?


15 posted on 05/14/2008 5:27:41 AM PDT by Wavrnr10
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To: abishai

“The student might not be so lucky if he made threats like that elsewhere.”

Like, say, off campus.


16 posted on 05/14/2008 5:28:14 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: don-o

What’s up with Lazamataz, is he in the penalty box?


17 posted on 05/14/2008 5:28:59 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: don-o
Gary Loch, who is the diversity coordinator for the district, said the situation was an unfortunate case of miscommunication. “I'm not quite sure where the breakdown comes into play here," Loch said.

The breakdown comes in you failing to do your job, Gary. I can't imagine that a 'diversity coordinator' has a lot to do, but it seems to me that understanding potential culture clashes and communicating in no uncertain terms that any violence or threatening comments will not be tolerated, would be a good place to start. I have never seen such namby pamby pussyfooting around. Ever.

18 posted on 05/14/2008 5:30:09 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: OKSooner

He is


19 posted on 05/14/2008 5:30:16 AM PDT by don-o (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: SJackson
Let's say it was a white man hating a pet (insert your favorite) that belonged to the Somali Muslim. CAIR would be all over. Jerry Rivers would be covering it and talking about how narrow minded whites are. I am so sick of this multicultural crap.
20 posted on 05/14/2008 5:30:36 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: SJackson
The Muslim faith, which is the dominant faith of Somali immigrants, forbids the touching of dogs.

Sadly,however,it does not forbid the "touching" of young girls.Or goats.

21 posted on 05/14/2008 5:32:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Women swooned in Mao's presence too.)
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To: SJackson

Immigrants should adapt to their new country, the country shouldnt adapt to immigrants. If you don’t like dogs go back to your hellhole. Immigrants who make threats should be deported immediately.


22 posted on 05/14/2008 5:33:46 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: SJackson

It’s not a big problem but I do wish the location of these stories would be in the article somewhere. I have no idea where St Cloud state University is,since it says it’s a state university I assume it is in the USA. Sounds like another bullshite diversity story where Americans are suppose to bend over backwards to kiss the arse of a damn mooslim to make him feel at home. I notice the school buttlicker said they had not found evidence of a direct threat. I guess we are suppose to think the guy just imagined it. Disgraceful.


23 posted on 05/14/2008 5:34:00 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: SJackson

It’s obvious that the Somali student is disabled; too few working brain cells. Therefore he should be returned to his country of origin as defective.


24 posted on 05/14/2008 5:34:12 AM PDT by junkman_106 (Once is chance, twice is coincidence, thrice is enemy action ---007/Ian Fleming)
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To: Rappini
We made our mistake when we didn’t go back in after Black Hawk Down.

We? Who's this "We"?....You mean William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.......

25 posted on 05/14/2008 5:34:33 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: SJackson

I consider my dog to be part of the family.
She watches out for the grandkids, and keeps grandma protected. ( Also keeps grandma busy with daily walks).
If someone threatened my dog, well I live in Florida, where the law’s pretty clear on how you may respond to threats against your life or your families.
I’m sure the jury would understand my argument.
I’m pretty tired of people telling me how I have to respect their religion, when they have respect for no other religion. If you don’t like American culture, please move to a country wher you like the culture.


26 posted on 05/14/2008 5:34:48 AM PDT by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: don-o

Well, that’s too bad. I’ve always enjoyed him being the resident wiseguy around here among the established. The Lord gave him a lot of talent.


27 posted on 05/14/2008 5:35:25 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: don-o

WHat did Laz do to get put out of the sandbox?...........


28 posted on 05/14/2008 5:35:45 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Joe Boucher

“Kill Muzzies, not dogs”, thats my new motto!


29 posted on 05/14/2008 5:36:22 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Let's say it was a white man hating a pet (insert your favorite) that belonged to the Somali Muslim. CAIR would be all over. Jerry Rivers would be covering it and talking about how narrow minded whites are. I am so sick of this multicultural crap.

Or perhaps he bought a bottle of liquor on a trip, and wanted to take a cab home from the airport.

30 posted on 05/14/2008 5:37:35 AM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson

Already Posted:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2014949/posts


31 posted on 05/14/2008 5:38:19 AM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: abishai
The student might not be so lucky if he made threats like that elsewhere.

If he does it again, I hope it's on an airplane. Let him cool his heels awhile.

32 posted on 05/14/2008 5:38:43 AM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson
Julia Espe, director of curriculum, instruction and assessment for St. Cloud school district, said the school needed to do a better job communicating. “I think it was a misunderstanding where we didn't really prepare either side for possible implications," Espe said. Espe said the school's investigation determined the student did not make a direct threat. “We certainly welcome (Hurd) in our district, and we hope we can get this all resolved so he feels welcome and his dog is welcome," Espe said.

I think Espe is the one who needs to learn about communication.

Julia Espe, Executive Director, Curriculum, Instruction and Assessment (320) 253-9333 x-1024 julia.espe@isd742.org

33 posted on 05/14/2008 5:38:46 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: The_Reader_David
Wretched barbarians!

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Seriously though, this PC crap is how Europe was lost.

34 posted on 05/14/2008 5:40:45 AM PDT by Bobarian (Green: It's the new Red.)
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To: shibumi

Already Posted:

So what?


35 posted on 05/14/2008 5:41:02 AM PDT by don-o (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: ought-six

I guess so. Anywhere outside of the multicultural hyper-protectionist dreamworld these students are used to.


36 posted on 05/14/2008 5:41:54 AM PDT by abishai
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To: don-o

I’m not so sure that it’s “whine and whimper” out of the muzzies so much as it is intimidation and threats.

Think about it. A “diversity coordinator” is going to have nuts about the size of raisins.


37 posted on 05/14/2008 5:42:27 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: SJackson
threat came from a Somali student who is Muslim...

I'm curious as to where this Somali student did his Madrassah studies. Specifically, if it was within the US. Sounds to me like this prior "education" was very effective for this young student, and his prior classmates probably as well.

38 posted on 05/14/2008 5:43:54 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: Hacklehead

The word needs to be spread - Muslims have no intention of becoming part of the countries that they invade. They intend to make those countries Muslim countries.


39 posted on 05/14/2008 5:44:01 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ontap

Minnesota, twin cities area. They had an issue a year or so ago with Somali cabbies refusing to allow service dogs in their cabs. Also passenger with alcohol.


40 posted on 05/14/2008 5:44:12 AM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson

If the Muslim kids don’t want to touch the dog then they don’t have to touch the dog. Problem solved!

I really doubt this teacher was forcing the kids to touch his dog so they should just sit down and shut up. If there should be a “zero tolerance” policy for anything it should be kids threatening their teachers for any reason. How can any child learn in an environment where their peers are behaving like that. That boy should be kicked out of school for acting like that.

I notice that the other kids solved their ‘problem’ by putting paper towels around their hands so they could pet the dog. That seems a little nutty to me but at least they were trying to be friendly and learn about American culture. The ones who want to force their teacher to follow their own culture instead are disrespectful and should be punished and if they act threatening they should be expelled.


41 posted on 05/14/2008 5:45:15 AM PDT by CatherinePPP
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To: SJackson

In the United States he can make threats anytime, anywhere, and to whom anyone he pleases and the authorities will take no action against him. Why? Because he is a muslim.

As far as the people who are supposed to enforce the law are concerned being a muslim gives one more immunity from the laws than being an illegal alien does.

In both cases, only the laws that benefit them apply.


42 posted on 05/14/2008 5:45:53 AM PDT by sport
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To: SJackson
Islam hates dogs because dogs do the exact opposite of what Islam does. I'd trust a dirty mutt over an islamist any day.
43 posted on 05/14/2008 5:45:55 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: varyouga
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So, no mooslim ban on cats....

44 posted on 05/14/2008 5:50:17 AM PDT by don-o (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: SJackson

Just publish the name (and address, if possible) of the Muzzie. Then, perhaps, this clown will get his due.


45 posted on 05/14/2008 5:51:27 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: varyouga

“Islam hates dogs because dogs do the exact opposite of what Islam does.”

Like sniff behinds and pee on fire hydrants?


46 posted on 05/14/2008 5:53:44 AM PDT by abishai
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To: SJackson
Following is the e-mail address of the president of St. Cloud U.:

president@stcloudstate.edu

Carolyn

47 posted on 05/14/2008 5:55:00 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: All
What the real problem here, aside from the religious aspect, is the real threat to life and limb that would get you expelled in any school in the country being totally ignored by the school.

For me, if someone says "I am going to kill you." in a fit of anger or in any threatening way, I will remind them that next time I see them, I will put a hole in them, as I believe they will carry through on their threat.

May as well nip that little problem in the bud immediately.

48 posted on 05/14/2008 5:55:12 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: SJackson

then go back to Somalia!


49 posted on 05/14/2008 5:56:24 AM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: abishai
Like sniff behinds and pee on fire hydrants?

No, doing stuff like finding people in buildings after Islamists knock them down. Or helping the disabled benefit society instead of killing them off.

50 posted on 05/14/2008 6:00:44 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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