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Muslim Dog-Hatred [get rid of service dogs]
SCTimes.com | Frontpagemagazine ^ | May 14, 2008 | Dave Aeikens

Posted on 05/14/2008 5:08:52 AM PDT by SJackson

A St. Cloud State University student in a teacher-training program at Technical High School left the school in late April because he says he feared for the safety of his service dog.

The school district calls it a misunderstanding, and officials there say they hoped Tyler Hurd, a 23-year-old junior from Mahtomedi who aspires to teach special education, would continue his training in the district.

Hurd said a student threatened to kill his service dog named Emmitt. The black lab is trained to protect Hurd when he has seizures.

The seizures, which can occur weekly, are from a childhood injury.

The dog has a pouch on his side that assists those who stop to help Hurd.

Hurd said he was unable to finish his 50 hours of field training at Tech. The university waived the remaining 10 hours, he said. He plans to do his student teaching outside a high school setting.

“We came up with a solution because I felt threatened by it," Hurd said.

The school district and university are working to make sure a similar situation doesn't happen.

Kate Steffens, dean of the college of education at St. Cloud State, and Tech assistant principal Lori Lockhart met Thursday.

The threat came from a Somali student who is Muslim, according to Hurd, St. Cloud State and school district officials.

The Muslim faith, which is the dominant faith of Somali immigrants, forbids the touching of dogs.

Hurd trained at Talahi Community School and Tech. He said his experience at Talahi was good. The Somali students there warmed to the dog and eventually petted him using paper to keep their hands off his fur, Hurd said.

Things didn't go as well at Tech, Hurd said. Students there taunted his dog, and he finally felt he had to leave after he was told a student made a threat. Hurd met with Lockhart but said he did not feel comfortable continuing.

Julia Espe, director of curriculum, instruction and assessment for St. Cloud school district, said the school needed to do a better job communicating.

“I think it was a misunderstanding where we didn't really prepare either side for possible implications," Espe said.

Espe said the school's investigation determined the student did not make a direct threat.

“We certainly welcome (Hurd) in our district, and we hope we can get this all resolved so he feels welcome and his dog is welcome," Espe said.

St. Cloud State places about 1,000 students in 240 schools to help prepare them for careers in education.

In St. Cloud school district, 330 are in the field training program Hurd was in and 94 are in student teaching.

Steffens said it is important to respect different cultures and the rights of disabled students.

“I think this is part of the growth process when we become more diverse," Steffens said.

Steffens called Hurd a good student and committed young man.

Gary Loch, who is the diversity coordinator for the district, said the situation was an unfortunate case of miscommunication.

“I'm not quite sure where the breakdown comes into play here," Loch said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: islam
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To: SJackson

If the Muslim kids don’t want to touch the dog then they don’t have to touch the dog. Problem solved!

I really doubt this teacher was forcing the kids to touch his dog so they should just sit down and shut up. If there should be a “zero tolerance” policy for anything it should be kids threatening their teachers for any reason. How can any child learn in an environment where their peers are behaving like that. That boy should be kicked out of school for acting like that.

I notice that the other kids solved their ‘problem’ by putting paper towels around their hands so they could pet the dog. That seems a little nutty to me but at least they were trying to be friendly and learn about American culture. The ones who want to force their teacher to follow their own culture instead are disrespectful and should be punished and if they act threatening they should be expelled.


41 posted on 05/14/2008 5:45:15 AM PDT by CatherinePPP
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To: SJackson

In the United States he can make threats anytime, anywhere, and to whom anyone he pleases and the authorities will take no action against him. Why? Because he is a muslim.

As far as the people who are supposed to enforce the law are concerned being a muslim gives one more immunity from the laws than being an illegal alien does.

In both cases, only the laws that benefit them apply.


42 posted on 05/14/2008 5:45:53 AM PDT by sport
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To: SJackson
Islam hates dogs because dogs do the exact opposite of what Islam does. I'd trust a dirty mutt over an islamist any day.
43 posted on 05/14/2008 5:45:55 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: varyouga
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So, no mooslim ban on cats....

44 posted on 05/14/2008 5:50:17 AM PDT by don-o (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: SJackson

Just publish the name (and address, if possible) of the Muzzie. Then, perhaps, this clown will get his due.


45 posted on 05/14/2008 5:51:27 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: varyouga

“Islam hates dogs because dogs do the exact opposite of what Islam does.”

Like sniff behinds and pee on fire hydrants?


46 posted on 05/14/2008 5:53:44 AM PDT by abishai
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To: SJackson
Following is the e-mail address of the president of St. Cloud U.:

president@stcloudstate.edu

Carolyn

47 posted on 05/14/2008 5:55:00 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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What the real problem here, aside from the religious aspect, is the real threat to life and limb that would get you expelled in any school in the country being totally ignored by the school.

For me, if someone says "I am going to kill you." in a fit of anger or in any threatening way, I will remind them that next time I see them, I will put a hole in them, as I believe they will carry through on their threat.

May as well nip that little problem in the bud immediately.

48 posted on 05/14/2008 5:55:12 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: SJackson

then go back to Somalia!


49 posted on 05/14/2008 5:56:24 AM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: abishai
Like sniff behinds and pee on fire hydrants?

No, doing stuff like finding people in buildings after Islamists knock them down. Or helping the disabled benefit society instead of killing them off.

50 posted on 05/14/2008 6:00:44 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: Awestruck
what kind of messed up “religion/culture” forbids the touching of dogs? you have to teach children to hate dogs unless they’ve been bitten.. it’s natural for children to love animals.. and its a natural reaction to want to pet animals.. they are truly screwed up.
The same that forbids eating pigs. Way back in the day pigs and dogs were pretty big disease vectors. The problem with modern Islam is that it *refuses to adapt* to new realities in the world. The Koran was a great problem solving document in 700ad. Now not so much. I don't see christian men adhering to Leviticus, stoning people and building funky temples these days. Fundamentalist Islamists might learn a thing or two from their example.
51 posted on 05/14/2008 6:01:00 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: Rappini

Turning the place to glass would have been the perfect response.


52 posted on 05/14/2008 6:03:30 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: ketsu

Muslims CAN’T advance beyond their 700ad doctrine. It is apostasy to study anything not included in the Koran, because it self-defines as a “complete and perfect work”.

Islam made some early advances in algebra and astronomy, but only because these studies helped with their worship - timekeeping and pointing their asses in the right direction when they pray.

The only scientific advances they made after that were due to the dhimmis that they allowed to live once they pillaged a country.

Reformation or rennaisance is impossible, because anyone that “tacks a proclamation on the mosque door” would be beheaded.


53 posted on 05/14/2008 6:05:37 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

Barack Mohammad Hussein Obama.


54 posted on 05/14/2008 6:09:42 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: ketsu
The same that forbids eating pigs. Way back in the day pigs and dogs were pretty big disease vectors. The problem with modern Islam is that it *refuses to adapt* to new realities in the world.

That is the least of my problems with Islam. I have no problem with observant Jews who follow strict dietary laws, but then they don't try to force their culture on others.

55 posted on 05/14/2008 6:14:45 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: abishai; varyouga
“Islam hates dogs because dogs do the exact opposite of what Islam does.”

Like sniff behinds and pee on fire hydrants?

Or chase cars and drink from the toilet?

56 posted on 05/14/2008 6:17:00 AM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: MrB
Muslims CAN’T advance beyond their 700ad doctrine. It is apostasy to study anything not included in the Koran, because it self-defines as a “complete and perfect work”.

Islam made some early advances in algebra and astronomy, but only because these studies helped with their worship - timekeeping and pointing their asses in the right direction when they pray.

The only scientific advances they made after that were due to the dhimmis that they allowed to live once they pillaged a country.

Reformation or rennaisance is impossible, because anyone that “tacks a proclamation on the mosque door” would be beheaded.

This isn't true at all. The Islamic world underwent huge change in the 20th century following the collapse of the ottoman empire. The current el nutso brand of wahabbism only hit the big time recently. The secular nationalist movements could have taken over, but they didn't. Partly because they were seen as communist(and undermined by the west) or seen as western imperialism.

The Islamic *world* is very dynamic. Islam is only one of a bunch of competing ideologies. It's just the biggie at the moment.

57 posted on 05/14/2008 6:18:23 AM PDT by ketsu
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To: SJackson
They hate the West.
Why are they here ?
58 posted on 05/14/2008 6:26:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Misschuck

Rather than doing away with service dogs it would be much better for society in general to get rid of all Muslims.

Worth repeating and supporting!

Repeated and supported.


59 posted on 05/14/2008 6:35:07 AM PDT by KungFuBrad (White Devil http://whitedevilredangel.mee.nu/)
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To: SJackson

Why are these savages in the United States?


60 posted on 05/14/2008 6:39:14 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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