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GOP cancer: Party could lose 20 more (House) seats
Politico ^ | May 15, 2008 | JOHN F. HARRIS & JOSH KRAUSHAAR

Posted on 05/15/2008 2:55:58 PM PDT by jern

For the past 18 months, ever since the 2006 elections, congressional Republicans have been like a hospital patient trying to convince visitors that he is not really all that sick: a bit under the weather; actually feel better than I sound; should be up and about any day; thanks for asking.

Suddenly — belatedly — all pretense is gone.

The Republican defeat in Tuesday’s special election in Mississippi, in a deeply conservative district where, in an average year, Democrats cannot even compete, was a clear sign that the GOP has the political equivalent of cancer that has spread throughout the body. Many House GOP operatives are privately predicting that the party could easily lose up to 20 seats this fall.

Combined with the 30 seats that the GOP lost in 2006, that would leave the party facing a 70-vote deficit against Democrats in the House — a state of powerlessness reminiscent of Republicans’ long wilderness years in the 1960s and ’70s.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; gop; obama
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1 posted on 05/15/2008 2:55:58 PM PDT by jern
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To: jern

Amazing...simply amazing.


2 posted on 05/15/2008 2:57:13 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: jern
If a strong shot of McCain doesn't kill the party, I don't know what would.

Too bad it has signed on to this euthenasia.

But Captain, I can't hold her together much longer... Scotty.

3 posted on 05/15/2008 2:59:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, and always win, your nation will be destroyed.)
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To: jern

I just don’t understand how this can happen since the leading GOP candidate supports open borders, Cap and Trade economics, restrictions on free speech among other enlightened ideas.


4 posted on 05/15/2008 2:59:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: jern

At least it’s not 1936 all over again...


5 posted on 05/15/2008 2:59:32 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: jern

And ... Along with all 3 branches of Govt, The Dems will probably have a filibuster proof Senate, 3 more Liberal Supreme Court Justices. Its going to be a long generation for some ... !


6 posted on 05/15/2008 3:01:06 PM PDT by Jay Howard Smith (Retired(25yrNCO)Military)
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To: jern

Anybody got a fork? I think we’re gonna need it.


7 posted on 05/15/2008 3:01:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: jern

Good! They deserve all the grief that get. I am tired of supporting a party does not have my values anymore.

More money to the national republican party.

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JUAN.


8 posted on 05/15/2008 3:02:25 PM PDT by Dacula (I never left the Republican party, they left me a long time ago.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; Impy; Darren McCarty

“Suddenly — belatedly — all pretense is gone.”

It’s about f____ing time!


9 posted on 05/15/2008 3:02:27 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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To: cubreporter
As a newspaper reporter who talks daily with mid level reporters, I can say first hand that the bulk of the 'reporting' media (as opposed to the column writers and pundits) have been scouring the nation the past three years in search of any story ... ANY thing... that makes the Bush GOP crowd look guilty of disaster.

I hear it every day from people who ask breathlessly, "why doesn't some good conservative Republican make a speech and set things right."

Well the truth is, many Republicans do offer solutions and make comments.

But the 'reporting' media, the AP, ABC news, Reuters, Breitbart, Yahoo News, Google News, UPI ---- will not report any good thing a conservative says.

If a tree falls in the forest, and no one hears it, did it really happen.

In the world of Republican vs Democrat politics.... the answer is a resounding NO.

10 posted on 05/15/2008 3:02:44 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: jern

Uh yeah, but the GOP has not been able to admit where the onset of the cancer lies.

They will soon, but they are too brain screwed to admit it.

Hint....dump McCain and the stupid Rockefeller nitwits. You will win.

Hint....wheres the money?


11 posted on 05/15/2008 3:02:50 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Jay Howard Smith
And ... Along with all 3 branches of Govt, The Dems will probably have a filibuster proof Senate, 3 more Liberal Supreme Court Justices. Its going to be a long generation for some ... !

Not only that, but if the party listens to Tom Cole and friends, the candidates we will run will be in the "McCain mold." So that means Democrat supermajorities competing will solidly left-wing RINO minorities.

12 posted on 05/15/2008 3:03:01 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: jern

Newt gave them power on a platter - and they threw it away. Hope all the liberals they cozied up to will be there for them...


13 posted on 05/15/2008 3:03:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (The "thug-way" - Hill won't stop 'til she wins or Obama accepts her as his VP .)
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To: jern

It’s going to take a rhino-ectomy to get rid of the cancer.


14 posted on 05/15/2008 3:03:55 PM PDT by alicewonders (I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
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To: jern
Many House GOP operatives are privately predicting that the party could easily lose up to 20 seats this fall.

What the hell are you gonna do about it?! Fix it.

15 posted on 05/15/2008 3:04:02 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: jern

I believe the dems have their own version of Operation Chaos. And it’s working. With RINO’s like McCain as our choice, no wonder the news is rife with these reports.

But you know... If America survived the Carter years and the Clinton years, then the Obama presidency won’t destroy us.

I hope.


16 posted on 05/15/2008 3:04:16 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Typical White Person)
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To: jern

It's going to be a democrat landslide IMO. Plus, in addition to McCain's moderate beliefs, he has no energy...

17 posted on 05/15/2008 3:04:19 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: cripplecreek

Yep, it was done in 2006, they just ain’t figured it out yet.


18 posted on 05/15/2008 3:04:21 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: Alter Kaker

...for as long as the eye can see.


19 posted on 05/15/2008 3:04:31 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Who would McQueeg rather have mad at him: You or the liberals?)
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To: jern

The Davis loss has a bit less to do with the national problems, of which there are many, than it does with his having to run against a RINO who unloaded the kitchen sink and fed ammo to the DNCC. The taint did not wash off and Childress was able to take advantage of it.


20 posted on 05/15/2008 3:05:14 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
Well the truth is, many Republicans do offer solutions and make comments. But the 'reporting' media, the AP, ABC news, Reuters, Breitbart, Yahoo News, Google News, UPI ---- will not report any good thing a conservative says.

You're 100% right about this...

21 posted on 05/15/2008 3:05:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (The "thug-way" - Hill won't stop 'til she wins or Obama accepts her as VP .)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

I somehow cannot buy that. There is enough influence out there that could make it happen on SOME show. FNC is open to GOP. Why not there?


22 posted on 05/15/2008 3:05:58 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: jern

Come to Jesus.


23 posted on 05/15/2008 3:06:09 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

McCain will win the Presidency though. That much I do believe. Obama just can’t capture the white working-class vote. It’s true.


24 posted on 05/15/2008 3:06:23 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: jern

For all you youngsters out there....it looked a hell of a lot worse in 1976.

Four years later we got Ronald Reagan.

Buck up!


25 posted on 05/15/2008 3:09:19 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: jern
I am sure there is more than one reason but in my opinion much of the fault can be laid at the chubby little feet of ...Karl Rove...the man who made sure the GOP stood for pretty much nothing at all.

Nice goin Karl.

26 posted on 05/15/2008 3:09:35 PM PDT by AreaMan
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To: jern
How to lower the price of oil?

Drill, Drill, Drill.

Ignore that and be a loser.

27 posted on 05/15/2008 3:09:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: RockinRight

Agreed. He’ll probably win.

And then what? What happens after that?


28 posted on 05/15/2008 3:10:11 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Dacula

“More money to the national republican party”
When the amnesty b.s. was being pushed I wrote a letter to Mel Martinez (my Florida Senator) protesting his stance for this travesty. He simply sent me a request for a donation to the R.N.C.
The R.N.C. and John. McCain can kiss my hairy white rear end.
As for Martinez, when he comes up for re-election I’ll work against him with all my efforts.
Republican party? You mean Democrat lite?


29 posted on 05/15/2008 3:10:18 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: eddie willers

In 1976, Democrats gained one seat in the U.S. House and one seat in the U.S. Senate.


30 posted on 05/15/2008 3:10:49 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: jern

SECRET NOFORN (This means dhimmicrats who are most assuredly foreign.)

MESSAGE TO REPUBLICAN PARTY: IF YOU DITCH MCCAIN, WE WON’T RIOT. WE WON’T PROTEST. WE MAY EVEN VOTE REPUBLICAN.

END SECRET NOFORN


31 posted on 05/15/2008 3:11:03 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: RockinRight

Obama supporters listen to his speech in San Antonio, Texas. REUTERS/Jim Young

32 posted on 05/15/2008 3:11:21 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: mountainbunny

Not much, unfortunately, that was kinda my point.


33 posted on 05/15/2008 3:11:21 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: jern

With the losses in Mississippi and Louisiana, as well as the large number of retiring Republicans, it seems to me it could be much worse than that.

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves, as well as a pathetic lack of leadership in a party that holds the White House and, less than two years ago, held both houses of Congress as well. By indulging in an orgy of government largess, the Republican Party compromised its long-term message in exchange for short term political gains. Now that it’s time to pay the piper, an embarrassing number of Republicans in Congress have decided to retire rather than face the voters.

The Republicans will be fortunate to keep the losses under 20 seats. Regardless, if the party doesn’t get new leadership and a new message before 2010, then it won’t look like the GOP of the 60s and 70s, but rather then 30s and 40s. The leadership isn’t going to come from the White House, either, regardless of who wins in November, so someone else is going to have to step up.

Unfortunately, no one springs to mind.


34 posted on 05/15/2008 3:17:33 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If America survived the Carter years and the Clinton years, then the Obama presidency won’t destroy us.

I really think we were close to losing America in the 70’s with Carter...clearly the worst President in History. The 90’s were bad for morals but everything else was not nearly as bad as the 70’s. Remember the 70’s having to sit in the car all day waiting for gas??? I do and I was a pissed off 7 year old.


35 posted on 05/15/2008 3:19:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: jern; Gyroscope; Grampa Dave; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; ...
I got a call yesterday from a good friend who recently moved from CA to MO. He had developed a close friendship with one of his neighbors in his up-scale Ozark neighborhood and they got into a discussion about the horrible gasoline prices.

He related to me how this dear new friend just turned on him in an instant in white-hot rage because he wouldn't agree with her that it was all Bush's fault. Furthermore, she was so filled with venom at anything Republican that she couldn't slow down or stop her unmerciful tongue lashing of my conservative former CA friend!!!

He was devastated and wanted me to reassure him that this attitude hasn't become widespread. I could not. Furthermore, I had to try to prepare him psychologically for the depressing news that's going to decimate conservatism as well as Republicanism for at least the next two and a half years!

The pendelum that swung so high and hard in 1980 for Reagan Republicanism/conservatism and against creepy Carterism/Demonicrats and that swung our way again in 1994, is headed back the other way right now and is going to knock a whole lot of good that's been done into the deep pit!!!

So as it says in Edgar Allen Poe's "The Pit And The Pendelum," "Quoth the raven, nevermore." Conservatism will be driven from the Republican Party for a time before making a smashing recovery in the future, after the Dems screw everything up beyond all known recognition!!!

36 posted on 05/15/2008 3:19:36 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Electing Juan McGore President, or any Dem, would be Super Power economic suicide!!! Vote Nader...)
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To: The Pack Knight

The new leaders are going to have to come out of nowhere. The GOP as we know it, is a spent force.


37 posted on 05/15/2008 3:20:16 PM PDT by alicewonders (I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
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To: RockinRight

It's like this wherever Obama goes. You won't see enthusiasm like this for McCain...

38 posted on 05/15/2008 3:20:38 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: eddie willers

Point well taken


39 posted on 05/15/2008 3:20:41 PM PDT by Seven Minute Maniac
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To: eddie willers

Dream on about getting another Reagan in four years if Hilabama is elected.


40 posted on 05/15/2008 3:22:08 PM PDT by Perdogg (Four years of Carter gave us 29 years of Iran; What will Hilabama give us?)
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To: jern
The GOP should be happy. It brings them closer to their socialist brethren.
41 posted on 05/15/2008 3:22:39 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: napscoordinator

I remember driving from Colorado Springs to Indianapolis in a VW bug, with a 3 month old baby. Ran out of gas in Kansas and could not find a gas station open anywhere

Americans want that misery and they are going to get it.

Try it, you will not like it.


42 posted on 05/15/2008 3:23:16 PM PDT by dforest (I had almost forgotten that McCain is the nominee. Too bad I was reminded.)
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To: jern

Its over. We got a liberal running and the Republican party has no values and won’t stand for anything conservative. This country is going to be a wasteland very soon. Ok for me, I’m retired and my daughter might make it ok but my little grandson is going to have a really tough time. You got people in this place that want power more than a future for the country and even there own kids much less anyone else’s kids.


43 posted on 05/15/2008 3:23:36 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: SierraWasp
He had developed a close friendship with one of his neighbors in his up-scale Ozark neighborhood and they got into a discussion about the horrible gasoline prices. He related to me how this dear new friend just turned on him in an instant in white-hot rage because he wouldn't agree with her that it was all Bush's fault. Furthermore, she was so filled with venom at anything Republican that she couldn't slow down or stop her unmerciful tongue lashing of my conservative former CA friend!!!

You are so right. The public are incensed about gas prices, and they want Republicans out of office...

44 posted on 05/15/2008 3:23:44 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: jern

and to top it all off our government really cut our throats today.


45 posted on 05/15/2008 3:24:47 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: indylindy

I remember driving from Colorado Springs to Indianapolis in a VW bug, with a 3 month old baby. Ran out of gas in Kansas and could not find a gas station open anywhere

Now that is bad. Yep the Democrats are going to make it exactly like that and the Republicans (not us conservatives) are going to look at each other wondering what went wrong.


46 posted on 05/15/2008 3:25:43 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: jern

I was a member of the GOP when it had meaning. Strong military, low taxes, limited government, and personal responsibility. That GOP is gone.


47 posted on 05/15/2008 3:26:30 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: jern
At least most of the Republicans who lose their seats will have a terrific pension plan and other benefits unknown to us among the lowly masses.
48 posted on 05/15/2008 3:27:12 PM PDT by Radix (The Army Times will not let me post "their images" of OUR Troops on Free Republic)
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To: cripplecreek

“Anybody got a fork?”
I have a runcible spoon, a spork. Is that okay?


49 posted on 05/15/2008 3:27:44 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Perdogg

"Supporters reach out to touch the hand of democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) after he spoke at a rally in Dallas, Texas February 20, 2008."

If McCain shows up in a rally where I live, I seriously doubt if I'll have this kind of energy to go out and try to shake his hand...

50 posted on 05/15/2008 3:28:03 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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