Skip to comments.What if Barack Obama were a real Muslim ? ( How the left thinks )
Posted on 05/16/2008 6:52:23 PM PDT by george76
A significant number of West Virginians (and some others in America) evidently take the view that U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim.
In a surpassingly depressing report from the coal-miner state on the eve of Tuesday's West Virginia primary, The Los Angeles Times noted voter views that go like this: "We do not need a Muslim to lead the good ole USA."
It would not necessarily be so horrible if this well-spoken senator from Illinois were in fact Muslim. It turns out that most Muslims, like those in the country with the world's most Muslims (Indonesia), are wonderful people who respect Allah, respect their countrymen, abhor violence and extremism, and generally would make excellent next-door neighbors.
Very early in his life, Obama lived in Indonesia, before he returned to his native Hawaii, so he had met a lot of them. As a result, he doesn't think many Muslims are so terrible. That's because most Muslims, in fact, are not terrible no more terrible than the rest of us, Christian or otherwise.
If the American president were in fact a Muslim, you must understand that more than 1.2 billion of the world's Muslims would want to vote for him.
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My theory is that his "conversion" is a cover to make people believe he's a Christian. Wright's preaching sounds more like Minister Farrakhan's than Bishop Sheen's, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wright is also a "closet" Muslim. This would explain why he agitates for hatred of America. Doesn't Islam allow its followers to make exceptions to their laws in order to advance the Islam agenda? If this is so, Bambi and Wright need not fear Islamic punishment.
By the way, just what is a "community organizer"? Something like what we once referred to as a Communist agitator?
The dog that didn’t bark.
Here's the thing we have to consider. The minute President Hussein takes a pro-Israel stand or does anything to piss off Iran or the Palestinians, you can take it to the bank that there will be a fatwa because he is an Apostate.
The fact that he is a supposedly Former Muslim will not sit well with Muslims if he does anything to piss them off. They like him now because they perceive that he is one of them. They perceive that his Christianity is only worn on his sleeve and is not embedded in his heart.
Frankly, I perceive that same thing.
Barak Hussein Obama is purely a media creation.
islam is incompatible with freedom and democracy—PERIOD, END OF STORY (and sorry, but anectdotal stories about the nice muslim family that lives down the street means nothing when faced with the facts)...
///most Muslims, like those in the country with the world's most Muslims (Indonesia), are wonderful people who respect Allah, respect their countrymen, abhor violence and extremism, and generally would make excellent next-door neighbors...until they find out you have alcohol in the fridge, then they kill you and burn down your house. Thanks geo. :')
Again, a generality.
The many Islamic-related circumstances surrounding Obama (family, childhood, "conversion", and statements such as the above), as well as the reflection from many Muslims that they believe BHO still to be a Muslim (check expatguy's blog), plus the fact that the Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC) will allow practicing Muslims to be full fledged members of their "church" (as confirmed by several witnesses as coming from TUCC staff), has me firmly convinced that Obama has not truly converted to Christianity and remains a Muslim. The only reason to do that, beyond fostering his gaining power thereby, is to work to the benefit of his religious brethren, which, because of their religion's rule being incompatible with their goal of a Caliphate for the US, or at least Sharia, is entirely antithetical to our Republic, US!
He's a Manchurian candidate, and I believe we will likely yet see what Ann Coulter's "poor little Hillary" has in store for him to keep him from enjoying becoming President.
Having heard the call to prayer at 5 am, I never thought of it as very delightful. When the FCC requires it to replace the SSB at signoff, even less so.
Atatürk was fighting against the Islamists long before America knew they were a problem.
"...... founder of the Republic of Turkey as well as its first President."
" An admirer of the Enlightenment, Atatürk sought to transform the ruins of the Ottoman Empire into a modern, democratic, secular, nation-state."
"Mustafa Kemal saw the consequences of fascist and communist doctrines in the 1920s and 1930s and rejected both."
"Islamic courts were closed and Islamic canon law was replaced with a secular civil code modeled after the Swiss Civil Code"
"Kemal wanted to solve the litteracy problem. Literate citizens, who comprised as little as 10% of the population, used the Ottoman Language written in Arabic script with Arabic and Persian loan vocabulary. Dewey notes that roughly three years with rather strenuous methods were necessary to learn to read and write in Arabic script on the elementary level. The creation of the new Turkish alphabet as a variant of the Latin alphabet was undertaken by the Language Commission (Turkish: Dil Encümeni) at the initiative of Kemal. The Turkish alphabet was decreed on 24 May 1928."
"The Decree on dress targeted the religious insignia used outside times of worship. Kemal passed a series of laws beginning from 1923, especially the Hat Law of 1925 which introduced the use of Western style hats instead of the fez, and the Law Relating to Prohibited Garments of 1934, which emphasized the need to wear modern suits instead of antiquated religion-based clothing such as the veil and turban."
My gut feeling is that Obama is an atheist.
He spent 20 years going to Jeremiah Wright's politicized church because it served his political purposes in his chosen Chicago political niche but I don't believe he has a single religious bone in his body and I believe he considers religion "the opiate of the masses".
Thus, he describes religious people as "clinging to religion".
I've been shouting this from the rooftops - racist DEMOCRATS. This is something like my third or fourth post on the topic. If the Dems really believe that anyone who votes Republican is a racist, and twenty percent of THEIR miserable parasitic party is racists, how do they think he can possibly win?
I don’t think he’s a Muslim now, but he also has said he was NEVER a Muslim. I find that hard to believe.
his brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as Obama recounted when describing his 1992 wedding.
The person who made me proudest of all, Obama wrote, was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.
Abongo Roy Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture. He urges his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (itll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.
Moreover, Mr. Obamas own grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isnt sure if his grandfathers two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)...
Why arent people talking about the Global Poverty Act (S. 2433)?
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committees passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
The Scarey part of the bill is this:
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning small arms and light weapons and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development.
See that sign Hussein is making with his raised left hand in that picture you posted? I’ve read that that is some kind of Satanic or Anti-Christ sign, but I don’t remember where or know how credible the information was. I haven’t seen him do that before (granted I try to avoid seeing him). Does anyone recognize that or know more?
I saw an article giving the reactions/statements of various VIPs to the news of Ted Kennedy’s hospitalization today, and with one exception they all mentioned prayer for him. Hussein did not, he said he would be “rooting for him”. He doesn’t even fake Christianity very well.
Oh, assuredly. He certainly is no serious Christian, as he claims - nobody can make that claim and then pass laws that legalize murdering little ones. If he's a Muslim, I doubt it's for anything but personal advancement anyhow. The whole thing is exceedingly strange. I suppose somehow he thinks (oh, wait, liberals only feel, they don't think) he'll get the Christian vote (whatever that is) if he appears to be one.
Let Newt Gingrich set you straight.
How many died in 2007 at hands of muslim men - dare you to scroll to bottom
How many Americans died.
I have no idea why you directed this post to me.
Yes, that makes him a Muslim at least 4 times over. First, his father was Muslim. Then his mother remarried, to another Muslim. Then he was taught the Koran in school and attended a mosque. Then he recited this Muslim prayer in front of a public witness.
Plus his Muslim family in Kenya, including his church-burning Muslim cousin Odinga, all love him, lied for him to the press, and dressed him in Muslim garb on one of his visits.
Your assessment of Black Liberation Theology is right on. Will this ever be made public or does anybody really want to know the skinny? We seem to be content to let him call himself “Christian” because he goes to that church. Yet an examination of the church, demonstrates what he really stands for.
“”” The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development.””
Thanks for posting the hedious passage of the Global Poverty Act, hailed by the likes of US Senator Barack Obama, and the traitor Chuck Hagel. One can only imagine how they will implement its *comprehensive policy*. As your post states they will use aid, trade, debt relief and ect. Usually that is Senate Foreign Relation’s speak for *leveling the playing field* - as in reducing the United States to just another third world country, whose citizens are to live under the rules of the mightly United Nations.
What the blank are those in power doing to our precious country? What the heck do they mean by the following from your quote above: the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development. The ‘entire human family’, indeed~!!! Who are these freaks anyway???
The media cares little about anything but promoting their choice for President - Obama the savior of the the new world order. /sarcasm on!
I plan to check out your above link. Dang, I get so sick of hearing how our country is being turned over more and more to the United Nations. Unreal. ;(
I agree with you totally...and I’m an Australian!
The problem with the public understanding of Black Liberation Theology is that no one but a Christian would understand the difference. I was thinking about this while reading WSJ, Best of the Web. James Tarranato has no clue about the difference between Black Liberation Theology and THE Christian Church.
Obama uses lawyerly discourse to explain the Christianity of BLT, quoting modern day theologians that the average person has never read, and would be shocked to learn that these socialist theologians are considered the fathers of modern day theology. I’m speaking of Tillich and Niebuhr, the philosophers that Obama claims that Rev. Wright has read, which in itself is a telling way to phrase a lack of belief.
My bet is that Huckabee also follows Paul Tillich’s writings. Maybe someone should ask him to explain it.