What if Barack Obama were a real Muslim ? ( How the left thinks )

The Japan Times ^ | May 16, 2008 | TOM PLATE

[george76]

A significant number of West Virginians (and some others in America) evidently take the view that U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim.

In a surpassingly depressing report from the coal-miner state on the eve of Tuesday's West Virginia primary, The Los Angeles Times noted voter views that go like this: "We do not need a Muslim to lead the good ole USA."

It would not necessarily be so horrible if this well-spoken senator from Illinois were in fact Muslim. It turns out that most Muslims, like those in the country with the world's most Muslims (Indonesia), are wonderful people who respect Allah, respect their countrymen, abhor violence and extremism, and generally would make excellent next-door neighbors.

Very early in his life, Obama lived in Indonesia, before he returned to his native Hawaii, so he had met a lot of them. As a result, he doesn't think many Muslims are so terrible. That's because most Muslims, in fact, are not terrible — no more terrible than the rest of us, Christian or otherwise.

If the American president were in fact a Muslim, you must understand that more than 1.2 billion of the world's Muslims would want to vote for him.

[Polybius]

My theory is that his "conversion" is a cover to make people believe he's a Christian.

My gut feeling is that Obama is an atheist.

He spent 20 years going to Jeremiah Wright's politicized church because it served his political purposes in his chosen Chicago political niche but I don't believe he has a single religious bone in his body and I believe he considers religion "the opiate of the masses".

Thus, he describes religious people as "clinging to religion".

[Hardastarboard]

"West Virginia racist DEMOCRATS think obama's a muslim."

I've been shouting this from the rooftops - racist DEMOCRATS. This is something like my third or fourth post on the topic. If the Dems really believe that anyone who votes Republican is a racist, and twenty percent of THEIR miserable parasitic party is racists, how do they think he can possibly win?

[PghBaldy]

I don’t think he’s a Muslim now, but he also has said he was NEVER a Muslim. I find that hard to believe.

[george76]

his brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as Obama recounted when describing his 1992 wedding.

“The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.”

Abongo “Roy” Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must “liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture.” He urges his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaFamily.htm

[george76]

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

Moreover, Mr. Obama’s own grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isn’t sure if his grandfather’s two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)...

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=2&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

[Fred Nerks]

http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/why_arent_people_talking_about_the_global_poverty_act_s_2433/

Why aren’t people talking about the Global Poverty Act (S. 2433)?

WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee’s passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.

SNIP

The Scarey part of the bill is this:

In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning “small arms and light weapons” and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as “the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development.”

[CatDancer]

See that sign Hussein is making with his raised left hand in that picture you posted? I’ve read that that is some kind of Satanic or Anti-Christ sign, but I don’t remember where or know how credible the information was. I haven’t seen him do that before (granted I try to avoid seeing him). Does anyone recognize that or know more?

I saw an article giving the reactions/statements of various VIPs to the news of Ted Kennedy’s hospitalization today, and with one exception they all mentioned prayer for him. Hussein did not, he said he would be “rooting for him”. He doesn’t even fake Christianity very well.

[ducdriver]

My gut feeling is that Obama is an atheist.

Oh, assuredly. He certainly is no serious Christian, as he claims - nobody can make that claim and then pass laws that legalize murdering little ones. If he's a Muslim, I doubt it's for anything but personal advancement anyhow. The whole thing is exceedingly strange. I suppose somehow he thinks (oh, wait, liberals only feel, they don't think) he'll get the Christian vote (whatever that is) if he appears to be one.

[Beckwith]

Grandfather, for whom Obama was given the middle name, Hussein, was "fiercely devoted to Islam." He had at least 3 wives: Helima, who had no children, Akuma who gave birth to Sarah Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Auma Obama.

The Obama File

[Beckwith]

Could it be that he is telling them something that he isn’t telling us?

On February 27th, 2007, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent."

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the  Shahada:

"Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim.  This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim's complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.

Obama knows this from his Quranic studies -- and he knows the New York Times will publish this fact and it will be seen throughout the Islamic world.

Regardless of Obama's religion, what message is he sending the world's 1.2 billion Muslims?

I suppose it's easy for Obama to remember the Shahada for the 35 years since he left Indonesia -- and in 'first-class' Arabic -- especially since he believes the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."

The fact that Obama can recall the Shahada after 35 years and the fact that he believes that the daily call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth" say that those Muslim prayers run through his head often -- what does that make him?

The Obama File

[Beckwith]

The author wrote that statement as though Obama only knew muslims, but isn't related to a whole bunch of them...which he is.

In an interview with the New York Times, published on April 30th, 2007, Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s younger half-sister, told the Times, "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim.

I assume Maya thinks of her brother, Barack, as a member of her family.

Although Anna is often described as an atheist, I assume Maya thinks of her mother as a member of her family, also.

Original NY Times link -- requires Log In.

The Obama File

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Let Newt Gingrich set you straight.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/08/gingrich/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

How many died in 2007 at hands of muslim men - dare you to scroll to bottom

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2007.htm

How many Americans died.

http://www.americanmemorialsite.com/

[Beckwith]

I have no idea why you directed this post to me.

[Cicero]

Yes, that makes him a Muslim at least 4 times over. First, his father was Muslim. Then his mother remarried, to another Muslim. Then he was taught the Koran in school and attended a mosque. Then he recited this Muslim prayer in front of a public witness.

Plus his Muslim family in Kenya, including his church-burning Muslim cousin Odinga, all love him, lied for him to the press, and dressed him in Muslim garb on one of his visits.

[needtowakeup]

Your assessment of Black Liberation Theology is right on. Will this ever be made public or does anybody really want to know the skinny? We seem to be content to let him call himself “Christian” because he goes to that church. Yet an examination of the church, demonstrates what he really stands for.

[Pepper777]

“”” The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as “the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development.”””

Thanks for posting the hedious passage of the Global Poverty Act, hailed by the likes of US Senator Barack Obama, and the traitor Chuck Hagel. One can only imagine how they will implement its *comprehensive policy*. As your post states they will use aid, trade, debt relief and ect. Usually that is Senate Foreign Relation’s speak for *leveling the playing field* - as in reducing the United States to just another third world country, whose citizens are to live under the rules of the mightly United Nations.

What the blank are those in power doing to our precious country? What the heck do they mean by the following from your quote above: “the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development.” The ‘entire human family’, indeed~!!! Who are these freaks anyway???

The media cares little about anything but promoting their choice for President - Obama the savior of the the new world order. /sarcasm on!
http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/why_arent_people_talking_about_the_global_poverty_act_s_2433/

I plan to check out your above link. Dang, I get so sick of hearing how our country is being turned over more and more to the United Nations. Unreal. ;(

[Fred Nerks]

I agree with you totally...and I’m an Australian!

[Eva]

The problem with the public understanding of Black Liberation Theology is that no one but a Christian would understand the difference. I was thinking about this while reading WSJ, Best of the Web. James Tarranato has no clue about the difference between Black Liberation Theology and THE Christian Church.

Obama uses lawyerly discourse to explain the Christianity of BLT, quoting modern day theologians that the average person has never read, and would be shocked to learn that these socialist theologians are considered the fathers of modern day theology. I’m speaking of Tillich and Niebuhr, the philosophers that Obama claims that Rev. Wright has read, which in itself is a telling way to phrase a lack of belief.

My bet is that Huckabee also follows Paul Tillich’s writings. Maybe someone should ask him to explain it.