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AP IMPACT: Thousands killed by US's Korean ally
Associated Press ^ | May 18, 2008 | CHARLES J. HANLEY and JAE-SOON CHANG

Posted on 05/18/2008 3:30:22 PM PDT by decimon

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To: B4Ranch
Funniest thing I've interviewed hundreds of Koreans and hundreds of Americans who were soldiers on site, even all the way back to the original attack.

They all attest to North Korean attrocities commited against civilians, particularly the "mass graves" part.

I can also read and research and I've done that.

This is a single AP story based on the testimony of a single man already demonstrated to be a liar in another Korean War story.

One thing for sure, Commies cannot be trusted to tell the truth about anything ~ not even about who they killed.

This is just another Commie lie.

No one in FR has any interest in providing a defense for such things.

81 posted on 05/19/2008 3:53:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Thud
The Japanese industrialized North Korea and Manchuria. They wanted the place so they could keep the home islands environmentally decent.

They did attempt to exterminate the Yi, or top noble family ~ but I've met a few so they didn't get 'em all.

82 posted on 05/19/2008 3:55:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: B4Ranch

No.


83 posted on 05/19/2008 5:30:17 PM PDT by maro
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To: muawiyah

Actually, the heir to the throne was sent to Japan and became a Japanese prince. I am unaware that the royal family was “exterminated,” which would have been hard since there are so many of them.


84 posted on 05/19/2008 5:35:30 PM PDT by maro
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To: maro
There were relatives on relatives on relatives in the Korean "royals" ~ the Japanese attempted to eliminate everyone named "Yi" ~ a common name among the royals and other noble families.

Fur Shur the eliminated the traditional aristocratic titles and privileges ~ and killed many of the people who'd held them just for the heck of it.

85 posted on 05/19/2008 6:25:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The ROK Constabulary did not play nice. Check out T.R. Fehrenbach's' _This Kind of War_ about the rear area security situation 1951-52. This was SOP by both the ROK and the KPR 1950-53. Their major difference here was one of degree, not kind. The Norks were far, far more murderous. And the Japanese made them both look angelic.

Life in Korea was terribly hard 1904-54.

86 posted on 05/19/2008 8:04:30 PM PDT by Thud
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To: B4Ranch

“The text of a declassified letter sent by American Ambassador John J. Muccio to Assistant Secretary of State Dean Rusk in 1950 advising that the U.S. military in South Korea had adopted a policy of shooting refugees approaching its lines:”

That was debunked last time it was posted. Yes deaths did occur but you failed to mention the communists who infiltrated the refugees and routinely attacked the US from within these groups. Literally hiding behind women and children to do it. Many times the refugees were quite aware of the communists within their midst.


87 posted on 05/20/2008 5:19:04 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: B4Ranch; maro

“Care to rewrite this?”

Why would he rewrite that? Its been well documented with numerous witnesses of their crimes. Conducting chemical and biological testing against whole families. Raping women to death after raping their babies. Killing children in front of their parents to test their response. Pinning people under large rocks so the pigs can eat them. Killing Christians by running them over with heavy road equipment. Taking upwards of 70% of their GNP to the military. Teaching kids to turn their parents in. Killing people for failing to bow to a picture of their glorious leader. ye gods man what on earth would it take for you to condemn the communists in NK?

The people are starving and he drinks $800 bottles of booze, while scoring 18 hole in ones on the golf course. He abducted actresses because he liked her movies and wanted her to perform for him for the rest of her life.


88 posted on 05/20/2008 5:27:05 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: decimon
...the southern army and police emptied South Korean prisons, lined up detainees and shot them in the head, dumping the bodies into hastily dug trenches. Others were thrown into abandoned mines or into the sea. Women and children were among those killed. Many victims never faced charges or trial.

Yet when Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao and Che did this it was a commendable act.

89 posted on 05/20/2008 5:30:41 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: muawiyah

What is your source? I have never heard of anything close to that. Note that there is a Yi pretender to the throne in Seoul. He is very poor.


90 posted on 05/20/2008 6:38:35 PM PDT by maro
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To: maro

His cousin used to live next door. There are remarkably few of them left ~ just like someone went hunting for them eh.


91 posted on 05/20/2008 7:05:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: driftdiver

If you are thinking that I support communists, any of them, you have your head waaay too far up you know where. I am just getting sick and tired, actually disgusted when I read FReepers posting that the mass slaughter of humans is perfectly okay and they wouldn’t bother to sit their beer down for a moment to stop it.

I don’t give a damn if these people are communist soldiers, the only honorable way to kill one is after a trial and he is found deserving of the death sentence or in a firefight where you are fighting in self defense. Slaughtering prisoners is the kind of thing Nazi Germans and Japs did during the wars, not Americans.


92 posted on 05/20/2008 7:20:27 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: muawiyah

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/19/news/profile.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_royal_family

No offense to your friend, but I doubt the story. 15% or more of Koreans have the surname Yi (spelled Rhee or Lee sometimes). The particular clan of Yi that became the Korean royal family is smaller, but still very numerous. I have an aunt who is from this family. The Japanese dealt with the Yi family by having the Empress killed, but did not engage in a widespread extermination of the family. The next in line was forced to become a Japanese prince and live in Japan. The Japanese did many wicked things in the 20th century, but did most of the really terrible things to the Chinese, whom they considered subhuman. The rationale that was used to annex Korea was that Koreans were a related people, which is certainly true.


93 posted on 05/20/2008 7:23:25 PM PDT by maro
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To: B4Ranch
"The text of a declassified letter sent by American Ambassador John J. Muccio to Assistant Secretary of State Dean Rusk in 1950 advising that the U.S. military in South Korea had adopted a policy of shooting refugees approaching its lines:"

That's right, because the refugees, including children were wired with explosives, or had grenades ready to go off.

94 posted on 05/20/2008 7:35:14 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: maro
And you have to look at the characters the family used ~ not all YI are the same.

BTW, population density of any particular surname now does not necessarily correlate to what the density of that surname was a century ago ~ particularly in any society with a history of some sort of total military mobilization (usually reflected in having only 12 primary surnames for the use of the vast majority of the population). South Vietnam and Wales reflect a similar history.

95 posted on 05/20/2008 8:01:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: B4Ranch

“I don’t give a damn if these people are communist soldiers, the only honorable way to kill one is after a trial and he is found deserving of the death sentence or in a firefight where you are fighting in self defense.”

What do you do if you don’t have time or resources for a trial? What do you do when its kill or be killed?

“Slaughtering prisoners is the kind of thing Nazi Germans and Japs did during the wars, not Americans.”

I agree that slaughter is horrible and to be avoided. I don’t see the comparison though.


96 posted on 05/21/2008 6:22:37 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

>What do you do if you don’t have time or resources for a trial? What do you do when its kill or be killed?<

For some reason I figured you to be in your 40’s or 50’s. Old enough and capable of figuring it out for yourself, release them unarmed and unharmed.


97 posted on 05/21/2008 7:26:22 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch

“For some reason I figured you to be in your 40’s or 50’s. Old enough and capable of figuring it out for yourself, release them unarmed and unharmed.”

And then they turn around and kill your family.


98 posted on 05/21/2008 9:42:12 AM PDT by driftdiver
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