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Voters in Ireland baffled by [EU] treaty no one has read
The Times ^ | 5/30/2008 | David Sharrock

Posted on 05/29/2008 11:01:37 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Not even the most ardent Europhiles would claim that the Lisbon treaty is a rip-roaring read. But in the Irish Republic - where a referendum in a fortnight will decide the treaty's fate — it seems that hardly anyone has bothered to cast an eye over it at all.

Even Brian Cowen, the new Taoiseach and Fianna Fáil leader, reluctantly acknowledged that he had not read the text of the treaty from “cover to cover”, while the Defence Minister, Willie O'Dea, described it as “more Stephen Hawking than J.K. Rowling”.

At 346 pages, encompassing the amendments to two previous treaties - Maastricht and Rome - and containing most of the rejected European constitution, it is hardly surprising that nobody has read it, but the levels of public ignorance are becoming an issue as Ireland's politicians try to persuade people to say “yes”.

To date 13 of the 27 member countries have ratified Lisbon. Ireland is in the unique position of holding a referendum by virtue of constitutional imperative.

The country has every reason to be wildly pro-European — it has reaped huge benefits from Brussels subsidies — but voters delivered the biggest of surprises in June 2001 when they rejected the Nice treaty. The vote was rerun in October 2002 in order to gain the result preferred by the Government, which it achieved with 62 per cent support. The Government blamed itself after the initial defeat for failing to mount a sufficiently robust campaign.

Bertie Ahern, Mr Cowen's predecessor, stepped aside this month for fear that the controversy over his complex financial affairs might encourage voters to punish the Government with a “no” to Lisbon.

Selling a document as dense as the reform treaty is still going to be difficult, however. Mr Cowen said that since he negotiated 95 per cent of the treaty he knows exactly what it contains, but his claim is being contested by a rainbow coalition from across the political spectrum who want a “no” vote to triumph.

Eddie Conlon, of the left-wing People Before Profit Alliance, claimed that the Government was keeping the public in the dark deliberately about the treaty's details. His group claims that a “yes” would lead to further militarisation of the European Union and the privatisation of public services.

The “no” camp has the most eye-catching posters. One bears the slogan “People Died for your Freedom. Don't Throw it Away” superimposed on a copy of the 1916 Easter Rising's declaration of a Republic, one of the foundation stones of Irish independence and neutrality.

Sinn Féin is the only party with representation in the Dáil, the Irish parliament, to oppose the treaty, although the Greens — in government with Fianna Fáil — are split on the issue and have agreed not to promote a position. Gerry Adams, the Sinn Féin presidentm, who played a disastrous role in last year's general election campaign, is keeping a low profile. On posters, his image has been replaced by the party's MEP, Mary Lou McDonald.

It is small wonder that the Government has resisted demands from the “no” camp for a copy of the treaty to be delivered to every household as part of the information campaign. An independent survey of voters found that two thirds of those polled said that they did not understand the issues in the treaty.

The latest poll revealed that the gap between those for and against has narrowed to 8 per cent, with 41 per cent intending to vote “yes” on June 12 and 33 per cent in the “no” camp. The remaining 26 per cent were undecided.

Mr Cowen has declared that securing the passage of the Lisbon treaty is the “first priority” facing his new administration, describing it as “critically important to our strategic interest, our national interest”.

Charlie McCreevy, Ireland's European Commissioner, has given a warning of a “big battle” to secure victory. “Those on the ‘yes' side know that this is not going to be easily won,” he said.

A factor even more difficult to measure is to what extent voters might look at the Nice treaty fiasco and regard the June 12 referendum as a guilt-free opportunity to kick the Government by voting “no” - safe in the knowledge that if it triumphs the decision can be reversed.


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1 posted on 05/29/2008 11:01:37 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
The fact that the doc is almost incomprehensible is a deliberate ploy.

In terms of content, the proposals remain largely unchanged, they are simply presented in a different way... The reason is that the new text could not look too much like the constitutional treaty." — Valéry Giscard d’Estaing, former French President and Chairman of the Convention which drew up the EU Constitution, addressing the Constitutional Affairs Committee in the European Parliament, 17th July 2007 "

I hope the Irish "NO" prevails, then we'll get another couple of years before the EU rewrites/renames it and tries again. Remember, this one is self-amending, in other words if it passes there will be no need for another one, ever.

The good thing about not calling it a Constitution is that no one can ask for a referendum on it." — Giuliano Amato, former Italian Prime Minister and Vice-Chairman of the Convention which drew up the Constitution, speech to the London School of Economics, 20th February 2007

2 posted on 05/29/2008 11:34:31 PM PDT by 1066AD
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When it comes to Europe and the EU, a mess is all you are ever going to get. They will make a mess of this, that and the other thing because if they try to organize then it's a nonstarter.
3 posted on 05/29/2008 11:42:45 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (He who puts up with insult invites injury. - Proverb)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All

I just downloaded the PDF file; this ‘treaty’ is very hard to read and typical legalese. Good luck to anyone attempting to decipher it.


4 posted on 05/29/2008 11:46:56 PM PDT by edmond246 (Who is John Galt?)
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If EU is written on it it’s a safe bet to reject it.


5 posted on 05/30/2008 12:29:17 AM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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To: bruinbirdman

It’s simply a reheated version of the Constitutional Treaty which was rejected by France and Holland in 2005.

In a typically cynical move, Eurocrats have decided to leave it pretty much intact, but removing references to a common flag, anthem etc, thinking this will hoodwink the great unwashed into thinking it’s no longer a proper Constitution.

It is, and hopefully the Irish public will vote it down. No other European country is brave enough to hold a plebiscite on it (”it’s not called a constitution, so we don’t have to”). Fortunately, the Irish are constitutionally mandated to hold a vote.

It’s up to the Irish to vote down this crock. If they do, it dies as it requires unanimity.

As an interesting side-note, when Blair ran for Prime Minister in 2005, he promised a referendum on this Treaty - but Labour know it’d be massively rejected by the British, so they don’t dare, and have since reneged on the promise.

This is how Democracy works in the Kafkaesque world of the EU.


6 posted on 05/30/2008 2:38:51 AM PDT by fuzzy dunlop
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...but voters delivered the biggest of surprises in June 2001 when they rejected the Nice treaty. The vote was rerun in October 2002 in order to gain the result preferred by the Government...

Like liberals everywhere, you peons will just keep voting until you get it right. And of course once the desired result is achieved it's, "that issue is settled and can't be revisited."

7 posted on 05/30/2008 3:20:58 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: bruinbirdman

Gee, and the Irish invented Blarney.


8 posted on 05/30/2008 3:24:05 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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They’ll vote for it. It’s a small, insignificant country without much self confidence and a relatively short history of political independence. They’ll want the heightened association with larger, wealthy neighbors to insure their own prosperity. They will be afraid of seeming to be “bad Europeans.”


9 posted on 05/30/2008 6:52:00 AM PDT by Godwin1
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