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Obama Quits Trinity
Townhall.com ^ | May 31, 2008 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 06/01/2008 3:51:33 AM PDT by Kaslin

Likely Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has resigned from his controversial church, Trinity United Church of Christ.

“We don’t want to have to answer for everything that’s stated in that church,” Obama told reporters in Aberdeen, South Dakota during a rare Saturday night press conference.

Obama’s church came under intense scrutiny after videotapes were discovered of Obama’s longtime friend and former pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright making anti-American and racist statements in sermons earlier this spring. Obama’s initial reaction was to defend Wright, until Wright engaged on a media tour and reiterated many of his most offensive remarks.

Questions about the church were renewed last Sunday when another one of Obama’s Chicago friends, Father Michael Pfleger, made racist statements pointed at Obama’s Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.

"Rev. Moss, when Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don't believe it was put on," Pfleger said, recalling Clinton’s tearful press conference during the New Hampshire primary. "I really believe that she just always thought, 'This is mine! I'm Bill's wife, I'm white, and this is mine! I just gotta get up and step into the plate.' And then out of nowhere came, 'Hey, I'm Barack Obama,' and she said, 'Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I'm white! I'm entitled! There's a black man stealing my show!”

Obama expressed regret at having to leave his church of over 20 years. “I did not anticipate my fairly conventional Christian faith being subject to such challenge and such scrutiny,” he said in South Dakota.

Obama noted his resignation should not be interpreted as a denouncement of the church. “It’s not a church worthy of denouncing,” he said. Obama said his critics “they’ve seen caricatures of the church and accept those caricatures despite my insistence that’s not what the church is about and there’s not much I can do about it” with a defeatist tone.

TUCC issued a statement that said: “Though we are saddened by the news we understand this is a personal decision.”

Obama’s decision came shortly after a contentious meeting ended in Washington D.C. by the Democratic National Committee to determine how delegates from Michigan and Florida should be seated. Both states were punished by the DNC for moving up their primary dates and were thus stripped of their delegates.

The DNC decided Saturday to seat half of the delegates from Florida and Michigan and to specially allocate 69 of Michigan’s delegates to Clinton and 59 to Obama.

The compromise was fought intensely by Clinton’s surrogates who are unhappy with the outcome of the meeting. Clinton campaign strategist Harold Ickes said at the conclusion of the meeting that Clinton had asked him to reserve the right to challenge the compromise with the Democratic Credentials Committee. This tactic has been deemed the “nuclear option” by political analysts since it would likely extend the Democratic contest until the Democratic convention in Denver.


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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“I’m surprised at how badly he does when he doesn’t have a teleprompter to read from, a lot of stuttering and false starts.”

In this case, it was even worse. He was attempting to talk about FAITH and, since I suspect he is lacking in this area, he had to consider his words even more carefully. If he had a secure faith, that would not have been so necessary.


51 posted on 06/01/2008 5:05:48 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: bcsco
I see a man who simply admitted he was tired of having to defend the vileness and hatred that was emanating from his "church". If he threw them under the bus, it was with a pillow placed in the landing zone.
52 posted on 06/01/2008 5:12:18 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Spinning like a top!


53 posted on 06/01/2008 5:12:42 AM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: AmericaUnited
Throws his church under the bus for POLITIAL ambition.

B Hussein o had better get high lift gas shocks for that bus. Not much room left under there.

54 posted on 06/01/2008 5:14:27 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical white person, bitter, religious, gun owner, who will "Just say No to BO (or HRC).")
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To: Kaslin
“I did not anticipate my fairly conventional Christian faith being subject to such challenge and such scrutiny...It’s not a church worthy of denouncing,” he said. Obama said his critics “they’ve seen caricatures of the church and accept those caricatures despite my insistence that’s not what the church is about and there’s not much I can do about it”

If TUCC is A-OK, why is he leaving it?

55 posted on 06/01/2008 5:20:08 AM PDT by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years, because Truman too hastily withdrew troops in 1949.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Yeah, “under the bus” was my first thought....Mine too.

There’s a commercial (pony?) in there somewhere.

First he threw his Grandma under the bus
Then he threw the reverend under the bus
And then the whole church went under the bus
What’s next?
Will he throw all of US under the bus?...


56 posted on 06/01/2008 5:20:45 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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To: Kaslin
Obama Quits Trinity

So now it's down to just two, the Father and the Holy Ghost?

57 posted on 06/01/2008 5:21:44 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
B Hussein o had better get high lift gas shocks for that bus. Not much room left under there.

LOL!

58 posted on 06/01/2008 5:24:15 AM PDT by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years, because Truman too hastily withdrew troops in 1949.)
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To: Kaslin
Obama expressed regret at having to leave his church of over 20 years. “I did not anticipate my fairly conventional Christian faith being subject to such challenge and such scrutiny,” he said in South Dakota.

"Fairly conventional"? What lying sack of dog poop. There is nothing conventional about his brand of "Christianity".!

59 posted on 06/01/2008 5:24:25 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Kaslin
Again I ask, has anyone seen the media take on Pfleger's rants about the evil whitey and his evil "assets"? All I have seen is commentary on the Hillary part of the "sermon". Now that Obama has separated himself from the "church", the coverage has taken a new turn.
60 posted on 06/01/2008 5:25:01 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: Appleby

Thank you.


61 posted on 06/01/2008 5:32:01 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

I see a man who doesn’t have the integrity to stand up for what he’s been a part of for 20 years; and for no other reason than for personal gain.

I don’t believe for a minute he is tired. I do believe he sees no other way of putting this issue on the back burner; even though it opens him up for further criticism.


62 posted on 06/01/2008 5:33:33 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: True Republican Patriot

The petition is being sent to the Holy See and Fr. Jonathan Morris just commented from Rome on Ffleger saying he needs to get out. He also commented on Wright and Moss, saying that they do not represent Christianity.


63 posted on 06/01/2008 5:34:37 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Westbrook

That is the exact reason I retracted it. I will speak up for them when in the presence of PTB, but I will not take up arms, literally or rhetorically, for them. They should take care of themselves (If they will not work, let them not eat).


64 posted on 06/01/2008 5:38:54 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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To: Kaslin

Actually, this is a more accurate quote.

“We, ah, ah, don’t um, um, ... want ... to have to answer, ah,... um, for everything, er, ah, ah, that’s stated .... um, ah, ... in that church.”


65 posted on 06/01/2008 5:39:45 AM PDT by maggief
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To: True Republican Patriot
There is nothing conventional about your Faith, even remotely, it is a Hate filled Racist Mismash of retoric and your own Muslim ideaology germinated over your lifetime

Exactly!

66 posted on 06/01/2008 5:39:54 AM PDT by Zechariah11 (Yeah, sure, Barack. . . . And Billy Graham "led me" to embrace Islam.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m waiting for the video of Michelle ranting in church about whites.


67 posted on 06/01/2008 5:40:30 AM PDT by tips up
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To: sageb1

Thank you for the clarification and the urgency that the Holy See is focusing as well. I am going to sign the petition immediately and hoping other Freepers will as well.


68 posted on 06/01/2008 5:41:49 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Thank you!


69 posted on 06/01/2008 5:45:00 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: True Republican Patriot
You're hitting a sore spot. Obama has also said that he didn't think his church was all that controversial. Obama has sought out the fringe, the radical, the unconventional his entire life, he wrote about that when he went to Occidential College. He immediately sought out the Marxist professors, the Punks, the alienated. Obama is clueless as to what conventional America is like, (clinging to guns and religion). He's clueless as to traditional American beliefs, ie takes off the flag lapel pin to focus on "real" patriotism (of dissent). Obama gave up a job as a business consultant in New York City to take up a life as a "community organizer".

I've yet to read anything that he's done as a "community organizer". Let's see, we've had Presidents, who led armies, Washington, Jackson, Eisenhower. We've had Presidents, who've led States, Roosevelt, Carter, Reagan. But we've never had a President, who led "communities".

Obama is a huge opportunity for Republicans to define themselves as conservative reformers, but knowing the Stupid Party as I do, they'll drop the ball or spike it in the wrong endzone.

It doesn't matter, who wins this presidential election, there's going to be a voter revolt starting in two years, whether either party survives is up in the air.

70 posted on 06/01/2008 5:45:52 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Notice that he quit after a WHITE, CATHOLIC priest took to the pulpit. Very Clever!!

And just in case no one has mentioned it as yet, both this White Catholic priest and Rev. Wright were serving as members of Obama's campaign staff.

71 posted on 06/01/2008 5:48:42 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: Raycpa

Well met.


72 posted on 06/01/2008 5:51:54 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Kaslin
Fr. Jonathan Morris told the Friends that he's not buying Barry's sudden resignation. Father said--Michelle and Senator Obama, you have a lot of explaining to do! Ellen RATner reported that it must have been so hard for Barry to leave his church but she went to an evangelical church recently where she heard the more horrifying things--so it's everywhere claims Ellen. From Rush this week:



RUSH: Go back to May 3rd, Meet the Press, Tim Russert's show, here is Senator Obama talking about Reverend Wright and Reverend Moss.

OBAMA: He was my pastor, and he built a terrific church. I'm proud of that church. We've got a wonderful young pastor who's there, who's doing, uh -- continuing the terrific work that the church does, and that's my commitment. My commitment are to the values of -- of that church.

RUSH: Thank you, Barack Obama. Democrats have gotta be quaking in their boots. They'll never admit it, but this is just too good.
73 posted on 06/01/2008 5:59:24 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Kaslin

How curious that CNN did NOT cover Barry’s live presser last night...they were doing a special report on gas prices.


74 posted on 06/01/2008 6:04:13 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: N. Theknow
Check out the parish website where you will find this on the home page:

http://a.saintsabina.org/

WRIGHT AND OBAMA: TWO DIFFERENT INGREDIENTS TO A NEW AMERICA

"...Senator Barack Obama and Reverend Jeremiah Wright, love America, are passionate about its future, and desire at their very core the best for this country and for each and every one...The truth is we need both!..." (cont.)
75 posted on 06/01/2008 6:09:19 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yesterday’s appearance would make for a great Body Language segment on The O’Reilly Factor. However, the resident expert’s “interpretation” would probably not even hint at the fact that Obama is just plain green up there. She’d probably tailor her explanation toward the compassionate and because it is a faith-based and family matter you might feel the same way...at first.


76 posted on 06/01/2008 6:10:32 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: bcsco
bcsco, he didn't throw Black separatist racism under the bus. He said that was the culture of the black church.

Unfortunately Royal Marshall, the black man that works with Neal Boortz said that the priest was right on the money.

So do all black people in America think that all white people in America are privileged? It seems so. He, Royal Marshall, admitted that black people talk and act different when there aren't whites around.

I'm wondering what happened to MLK Jr's I have a dream speech which was all about content of character and not color?

Honestly I don't have two personalities, I act them same around all people, dummy me assumed all adults did.
77 posted on 06/01/2008 6:12:15 AM PDT by BabsC
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To: Miss Didi
Ellen RATner reported that it must have been so hard for Barry to leave his church but she went to an evangelical church recently where she heard the more horrifying things--so it's everywhere claims Ellen.

I heard that statement, and had a "gaugh" (1/2 gag; 1/2 laugh). That's one of the things about the left that has amazed me over the years: the convolutions they will go through in order to convince themselves (and others) that something is ok...

78 posted on 06/01/2008 6:15:36 AM PDT by LRS
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To: Kaslin
“We don’t want to have to answer for everything that’s stated in that church,” Obama told reporters in Aberdeen, South Dakota

This "we" includes "he" who wants to become a sitting President of the US. The glimpse we are getting of this church is not pretty, but that is not the point. He has to answer for what he believes and how he views the world, but that will reflect how he will act as President.

79 posted on 06/01/2008 6:16:20 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: BabsC

Sorry, that should have been ‘the’ not ‘them’ same around all people.


80 posted on 06/01/2008 6:27:18 AM PDT by BabsC
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To: Kaslin
"God, damn America!" will remain the de facto motto of the Democrat Party.

That fact will not change. And the Democrat Party will continue its struggle to damn and destroy America--whether its objective be overt or covert.

The damnation of America is what the Democrats mean by "change".

81 posted on 06/01/2008 6:33:08 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The de facto motto of the Democrat Party: "God, damn America!)
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To: LRS

“That’s one of the things about the left that has amazed me over the years: the convolutions they will go through in order to convince themselves (and others) that something is ok...”

as in...”2 + 2” = 3 or 5


82 posted on 06/01/2008 6:33:21 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: True Republican Patriot
Does he expect people to believe that he only discovered the racist, black supremacist side of this church this year? He never noticed the congregation going crazy at these racial slurs before this?

I don't think he noticed because he was in the front pew clapping and nodding along with the rest of them. He didn't notice because he thought it was okay.

83 posted on 06/01/2008 6:41:57 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: BelegStrongbow
Michelle will make more appearances; the media will try to love her, which will give her more opportunities to make radical, anti-American, racist, elitist comments. And every time Michelle Obama opens her mouth, Jeremiah Wright will come out. There's no stopping it.

I think the reason the white priest made a very radical, hate-filled speech is because he is white, which takes the pressure off the back preachers who started this.

America better be prepared; these are Barack Obama's friends, and if he is elected we can expect to see 4 years of these clowns grabbing camera attention whenever they can.

It will be like Billy Carter, Roger Clinton, Lindsey's Lohan's parents, the Williams sisters father, and every other clown relative combined on steriods filming a reality show. I look forward to "The Soup" starting to cover this, in between "Chat Stew" and "Clip of the Week."

84 posted on 06/01/2008 6:50:18 AM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: AndyJackson
Watch his presser:

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obamas-church-woes/

He doesn't get it.

85 posted on 06/01/2008 6:53:37 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: BabsC
He said that was the culture of the black church.

Yes, he said that. And he also said (quoted from another thread) ""It's clear that now that I am a candidate for president, every time something is said in the church by anyone associated with Trinity, including guest pastors, the remarks will be imputed to me, even if they totally conflict with my long-held views, statements and principles,". The real truth behind that statement lies in the first part; not the highlighted part.

In truth, his beliefs do not stray from that church's beliefs. But saying so for political expediency is indeed throwing that church (and Black Liberation Theology by extension) under the bus; just as it was when he broke with the Rev. Wright.

So do all black people in America think that all white people in America are privileged?

No. I don't believe that. But a good percentage do, I'm sure. Hustlers like rev. Wright, Farrakhan, Sharpton and Jackson have made use of Christianity to fill Blacks with the desire for revenge in today's World (whereas Christianity provides a belief in a better World to come). And many fall for it. Revenge is a deep-seeded human emotion. And once aroused it's hard to quell. Yet all these hucksters are sealing their own destruction (and that of their parishioners as well).

86 posted on 06/01/2008 6:57:20 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

He comes across as an actor playing the part of a politician in a movie. What happens if he has to go off script?


87 posted on 06/01/2008 6:57:44 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

They switch him over to fly-by-wire?


88 posted on 06/01/2008 6:59:33 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: AndyJackson
He folds.

Logically, this does not make sense. He said he is leaving to "protect the church". Baloney.

89 posted on 06/01/2008 7:01:06 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: Kaslin

Potemkin village people. Obama has no credibility.


90 posted on 06/01/2008 7:15:52 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“It makes his debate performances seem like just that, performances memorized from a script of preanswered questions.”

You are stating the obvious. I wonder how many in the “American Street” will recognize that?


91 posted on 06/01/2008 7:16:17 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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B.O. (Body Odor) is starting to stink.


92 posted on 06/01/2008 7:19:21 AM PDT by cruise_missile ('')
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To: Kaslin
Obama is faithless; declares Mohamed his personal demon!
93 posted on 06/01/2008 7:21:31 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: Kaslin

It is a safe guess that Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas’s focus groups and internal polls and the DNC’s show that Middle America will no longer tolerate Black Racism and Black Racist POS’s posing as ministers. Nor will they vote for a Black Racist, who hates America, Whites and real Christians and Jews.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_el_pr/obama

There is no way that Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas would have left this anti America Black Racist POS phoney church if not for the internet, Sean, Rush, U Tube and other sources of the real news.

The next target of opportunity are the longtime Anti America black and white mentors/buddies of Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas’s past and present.


94 posted on 06/01/2008 7:22:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Pastor Wright: "God Damn America, U.S.to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Kaslin
This is just a wink and nod to those ghoulish black racists which jump up and down, hyperventillate, drool, and hysterically laugh at the vile diatribes.

"Look, y'know I've got to put these white rednecks to sleep for awhile. I'll play Mr. Denzell Washington, act the hero, etc. Get them to come my way. But, my heart is with you and we can start talking reparations soon after the election. I may even put Michelle in charge of that. So just be cool, my brothers!"

95 posted on 06/01/2008 7:59:08 AM PDT by Zechariah11 (Yeah, sure, Barack. . . . And Billy Graham "led me" to embrace Islam.)
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To: Kaslin

“Obama Quits Trinity” Which one of the three was he?


96 posted on 06/01/2008 8:00:22 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Notice that he quit after a WHITE, CATHOLIC priest took to the pulpit...”

I hate when a white guy takes on black affectations and talk. It’s so phony.


97 posted on 06/01/2008 8:12:43 AM PDT by y6162
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To: Miss Didi

“OBAMA: He was my pastor, and he built a terrific church. I’m proud of that church. We’ve got a wonderful young pastor who’s there, who’s doing, uh — continuing the terrific work that the church does, and that’s my commitment. My commitment are to the values of — of that church.”

So Obama’s commitment is: “to the values of — of that church.”

Then let me say this again: “Everyone focuses on the words of the pastors while ignoring the congregation. Look at these video tapes. The congregation is on it’s feet, clapping and cheering these words. The congregatin is exchanging ‘high-fives’. The congregation is in complete and total agreement with the racist sentiments of these pastors. You cannot separate the words of the pastors and the reaction of the congregation.

So is Obama ‘committed’ to black racism as is his church?


98 posted on 06/01/2008 8:13:39 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A true patriot will do anything to keep a Democrat out of the White House.)
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To: DugwayDuke
That's what Nina Easton said on the Sunday Panel...for someone who promotes unity in his campaign, his church represents the complete opposite.
99 posted on 06/01/2008 8:19:14 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Kaslin

Taking this long to do it just proves how really stupid he is.


100 posted on 06/01/2008 8:19:34 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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