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Catholics Debate Obama Vote
townhall.com ^ | June 06, 2008 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 06/08/2008 10:22:04 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: gitmo
To a Liberal, party affiliation trumps Religious beliefs.

Some view Catholicism as a smorgasbord, choosing to believe only in what fits their lifestyle. I truly feel sorry for them.

41 posted on 06/08/2008 11:58:00 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought
Some view Catholicism as a smorgasbord, choosing to believe only in what fits their lifestyle. I truly feel sorry for them.

We've got the same problem on the Protestant side of the fence, my friend.

Come to think of it, that's where our side of the fence came from, wasn't it?

42 posted on 06/08/2008 12:01:58 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: glorgau

Yep. Republican campaigns this season have been infiltrated by Democrats who have no intention of seeing a Republican victorious in November.

Howard Dean’s team supported McCain going as far back as 2006 for his 2008 campaign. They became part of his website team.


43 posted on 06/08/2008 12:02:16 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: DarthVader; Doctor Don

Well, I’ll say one thing - he is from the OLD school.


45 posted on 06/08/2008 12:08:58 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical white person, bitter, religious, gun owner, who will "Just say No to BO in Nov.")
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To: JohnDanvers
I would love to hear from Ted Kennedy how he justifies abortion being a practicing Catholic.

Makes me think of a time years ago I heard some nut on the radio justifying his pro-abortion position and how there was no conflict with that position while being a practicing Catholic. That guy's name was Bernie Ward.

‘nuff said.

46 posted on 06/08/2008 12:19:54 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: JohnDanvers
Ted Kennedy is a devout Catholic who supports Obama.

Wrong.
Ted Kennedy is a devout DRUNK, a murderer and an enabler of rape. Kennedy, by his own actions and deeds excommunicated himself from the Catholic Church long ago.

And he will soon be burning in Hell for all eternity.

47 posted on 06/08/2008 12:52:21 PM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: socialismisinsidious
Know abortion isn't just any issue.

But war and the dealth penalty are?

48 posted on 06/08/2008 12:56:04 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: SumProVita

Those not voting for Bob Barr are giving the election to a liberal.


49 posted on 06/08/2008 12:56:42 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: SumProVita
This will take votes away from McCain...and GIVE the election to Obama.

Depends on one's state. My vote for Bob Barr is unlikely to have any effect, but if it does have some effects I'd say the good ones would outweigh the bad.

50 posted on 06/08/2008 1:37:36 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Salvation
You really want Obama to win, don’t you?

I'm no longer going to buy the latest of the crap sandwiches that the GOP has been putting up for the presidency every four years since 1988.

And I don't want Obama to win. So here's an idea: why don't conservatives figure out who really is the true conservative running and vote him/her instead of a geriatric psychotic egotist who has been anointed the heir apparent by the old boys in the GOP country club?

Think how much better our country would have been if real conservatives hadn't thrown their votes away voting for GWH Bush in 1992 and voted for Ross Perot instead.

51 posted on 06/08/2008 1:59:01 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: SumProVita
Vote for Bob Barr, or write in Tom Tancredo or Lou Barletta. This will take votes away from McCain...and GIVE the election to Obama.

Here's a novelty for you: why not work for something instead of just against something?Instead of voting against Obama, why don't you actually vote for someone? Vote for a real conservative instead of just against Obama.

I threw my vote away in 1992 voting for GHW Bush, when if I were true to my principles I would have voted for Perot. That was an oppurtunity that many of us real conservatives itching to do the prudent thing wasted.

And don't be so cowardly. Dare to dream. Think how much better off we finally were because we followed the dreams of Ronald Reagan instead of the timorous compromising of Gerald Ford.

52 posted on 06/08/2008 2:06:22 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: Chucky is a girlie man; kellynla
Divorce and abandoning one’s crippled wife for a younger, hotter, rich girl also isn’t indicative of “good family values.”

And MacCain's history of serial adultery is all of a piece with his history of never ending betrayals and arrogant disregard of the people closest to him. Here's hoping all you MacCainiacs feel better when he plants a shiv between your ribs because he carries the magical "R" after his name.

53 posted on 06/08/2008 2:10:27 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: Salvation
Any Catholic who votes for Obama is automatically excommunicating themselves.

You know it's no longer the 14th century?

54 posted on 06/08/2008 2:12:41 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: kellynla; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Obama not only supports abortion at every phase of pregnancy, he also supports infanticide. Can a Catholic, who understands and supports Church teachings vote for Obama? Such a person would not even consider him. CINOs will continue to vote party lines.

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55 posted on 06/08/2008 2:35:48 PM PDT by NYer (Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: Cuchulain

Are you talking about Lopez or the person who posed the question?


56 posted on 06/08/2008 3:00:53 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: E. Cartman
Vote for Bob Barr, or write in Tom Tancredo or Lou Barletta.

And end up electing Barry Hussein Obama.

57 posted on 06/08/2008 3:05:20 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham
And end up electing Barry Hussein Obama.

You know, Nancy, it's really too bad you and your girlfriends can't actually fight for something.

58 posted on 06/08/2008 3:11:42 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: DarthVader
abortion: yes.

what's to debate?

59 posted on 06/08/2008 3:43:40 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Obama's a front man. Who's behind him?)
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To: socialismisinsidious

Regrettably, abortion is just a “speed bump” for some in consideration of the other social issues where the Democrats more or less align themselves with general Church teachings, such as care for the poor, food pantries, etc.

Of course, the motivations for this support are totally different — in one case, it is a natural outflow from the Faith, whereas in the other instance it’s just a means to political power by garnering as many votes as possible.

The government turning you over and shaking the money out of your pockets to redistribute “for the common good” is NOT charity and actually can be detrimental to its true spirit. A disturbing aspect of this happened once where I had heard a Catholic say, upon being approached by a solicitor from a well-known and respected institution, that “why should [he] give to {the charity}? That’s what my taxes are for!”


60 posted on 06/08/2008 5:13:27 PM PDT by mikrofon (Catholic LIFE Bump)
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