A Real Energy Strategy for America: Shale Oil (One Answer to the Energy Crisis)

New Media Journal ^ | May 31, 2008 | Jonathon Moseley

[thackney]

Eastonia (who the hell is that?)

They are in the Baltic Sea region. Most of Estonia's oil production comes from oil shale.

Baltic Sea Regional Factsheet, Oil
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/Baltic/Oil.html

[thackney]

Non of the permits allow a commercial sized operation. It is only for pilot plant operations and the time for comment on the Environmental Impact Statement was extended, delaying the ability to get started.

http://ostseis.anl.gov/news/index.cfm

[saganite]

You’re implying these carbon trading schemes would be a good trade off in return for getting shale oil??? Good grief. You need to understand the disastrous effect on the economy if that is ever put into law. I see a lot of freepers lately caving to nutty ideas like this. Hope you get your head back on straight.

[thackney]

McCain has already sent some trial balloons out indicating he favors more domestic oil production.

So after voting against it in Congress, he is going to talk about now that the election is getting close?

[curiosity]

You’re implying these carbon trading schemes would be a good trade off in return for getting shale oil???

Nope. Just saying the two issues aren't necessarily connected.

[curiosity]

So after voting against it in Congress, he is going to talk about now that the election is getting close?

He voted against ANWR. He has not, to my knowledge, as yet taken a position on shale oil.

[thackney]

He has not, to my knowledge, as yet taken a position on shale oil.

It will be more difficult to produce Shale Oil with his proposed cap on greenhouse gas emissions.

[curiosity]

It will be more difficult to produce Shale Oil with his proposed cap on greenhouse gas emissions.

How much more difficult?

[thackney]

Shale oil production is energy intensive. It still produces more output than input, but even more fuel is burned up to get the production.

McCain election web site says he not only wants to freeze greenhouse gas release but reduce it significantly.

[curiosity]

Shale oil production is energy intensive. It still produces more output than input, but even more fuel is burned up to get the production.

Well, it seems unlikely to me that a cap-and-trade scheme would ever get passed, even with Obama and a Democratic Congress or McCain and a Rat Congress. My hunch is that blue dogs and Republicans would at the very least filabuster it.

On the other hand, opening up the shale seems political feasible. It would have to be accompanied by a well-funded grass-roots campaign, and strong support by a sitting president would help too, but it seems to me that lower oil prices are an easy sell in this political environment.

We'll see. Maybe I'm too optimistic.