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McCain Meets Privately with Fr. Pavone - Says Constitutional Right to Life Applies to Unborn
LifeSiteNews ^ | 6/12/08 | Deal Hudson/Inside Catholic

Posted on 06/14/2008 9:58:14 AM PDT by wagglebee

June 12, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com/insidecatholic.com) - Sen. John McCain reached out to Catholic voters yesterday in Philadelphia at a gathering of Catholic lay leaders and clergy. The meeting, held at the venerable Union League on South Broad St., is one in an ongoing series being held nationwide by McCain and his Catholic surrogates - Sen. Sam Brownback, Gov. Frank Keating, and former Vatican ambassador Jim Nicholson.

Before his remarks, McCain met privately with Rev. Frank Pavone, president of Priests for Life. Father Pavone's organization promotes voter education and registration throughout the nation, and his pro-life advocacy has been crucial in bringing the non-negotiable life issues to the attention of Catholic voters.

In his prayer before McCain spoke, Father Pavone prayed that the "Lord would let all Christians know they are still His sons and daughters when they are in the voting booth."

The first issue addressed by McCain was abortion. He said that the "noblest words ever written" were "the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." McCain believes that those words "apply to the unborn." He reminded the Philadelphia Catholics of his pro-life voting record, adding that he would "maintain that commitment" if elected president.

McCain talked about the "stark contrast" between himself and Sen. Barack Obama on the life issue - the evidence being Obama's vote against the ban on partial-birth abortion and his opposition, as a state senator, to legal protection for babies born during an abortion procedure.

Introducing McCain was former ambassador Jim Nicholson, who described the need for outreach to Catholic voters as "self-evident." In Pennsylvania, 30 percent of the voters are Catholic, he said, and argued that "McCain would attract Catholic voters because his beliefs line up squarely with them on issue like protecting unborn life, defending marriage between a man and a woman, and the all-important appointment of judges."

Nicholson told the group that McCain was qualified for the presidency based upon his years of experience and his judgment in times of challenge and adversity. "His opponent is young, untested, inexperienced, green, and liberal - not a bad man, but unqualified."

In addition to protection for the unborn, McCain emphasized the pressing need to protect America from Islamic extremism, "a transcendent challenge to everything we hold dear." He said that the heart of this battle is being fought in Iraq, but it is also playing out on the Internet, where well-educated young people are being recruited to terrorist organizations.

McCain also brought up the subject of defending marriage, saying that some in the room may differ with his view that this decision should be taken up first in the states. "But," he added, "if some federal judge rules that all the states must recognize the [gay] marriages in Massachusetts, I would be in favor of pursuing a Constitutional amendment."

During the question-and-answer session, McCain talked about a wide range of issues, from energy and tax policy to the political unrest in South America. When someone asked him for a demonstration of his "famous Irish temper," McCain tore into "pork-barrel" spending and earmarks -- a long list that would have been funny, if it weren't such a waste of taxpayer money.

When asked about the possibility of universal healthcare, McCain rejected the idea completely. "The government can't run the healthcare systems it already has; take a look at the Bureau of Indian Affairs." He argued that government-run health systems around the world have been "colossal failures," and inevitably become two-tiered systems, "one for the rich and one for the poor."

The answer to the need for more healthcare coverage, he said, was giving people more choice, not "mandating" those choices. If elected, McCain said he would propose a $5,000 tax credit for those who must pay for their own health insurance. This insurance should be made affordable while those who are "uninsurable" will be covered by government-assisted programs of high-risk pools among insurance companies.

On the controversial question of immigration policy, McCain said that border security must come first. True immigration reform, he elaborated, will only happen when the American people are confident that the borders have been brought under control. The 12 million illegal immigrants, McCain insisted, are "God's children" and should be treated with compassion. This country "does not have 12 million pairs of handcuffs to arrest all these people - that's not the kind of country we are."

The final question to McCain was about his choice of a vice-president. Though he said he was not close to making a decision, he did explain that his running mate should share "my values, principles, and priorities." This decision will likely be the most important (and perhaps most difficult) one McCain will make during his campaign.

McCain was well-received by the Catholics gathered in Philadelphia. The campaign is planning many more of these events in the months leading up to the Republican National Convention, September 1-4 in Minneapolis.

This article is reprinted with permission from http://www.insidecatholic.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; amnesty; immigration; johnmccain; mccain; moralabsolutes; pavone; prolife; prolifevote
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The final question to McCain was about his choice of a vice-president. Though he said he was not close to making a decision, he did explain that his running mate should share "my values, principles, and priorities." This decision will likely be the most important (and perhaps most difficult) one McCain will make during his campaign.

If McCain is honest, he will prove this by selecting someone who conservatives approve of.

1 posted on 06/14/2008 9:58:17 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/14/2008 9:59:09 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 06/14/2008 9:59:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I seem to remember conservatives having few problems with David Souter before he was chosen. I don't trust McCain to do any better than Souter or Stevens.

I'm looking forward to conservatives in Congress "borking" President Obama's liberal nominees. We now have the Internet to put some backbone in them, we really didn't have it when Ginsburg was interviewing for the job.

4 posted on 06/14/2008 10:03:09 AM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: wagglebee
Constitutional what?

There is no "Right to Life" in the US Constution, neither implied or explicit.

If the reference is to "...that among these are Life, Liberty, and..." that's in the Declaration of Independence, which, I believe, was not predicated on the issue of human reproduction.

5 posted on 06/14/2008 10:11:55 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame
>>>>>There is no "Right to Life" in the US Constution, neither implied or explicit.

There is also no right to kill an unborn child in the Constitution either.

6 posted on 06/14/2008 10:15:03 AM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: yankeedame
There is no "Right to Life" in the US Constution, neither implied or explicit.

Yes, there is.

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

From Dictionary.com:

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This

PosterityPos*ter"i*ty\, n. [L. posteritas: cf. F. post['e]rit['e]. See Posterior.]

1. The race that proceeds from a progenitor; offspring to the furthest generation; the aggregate number of persons who are descended from an ancestor of a generation; descendants; -- contrasted with ancestry; as, the posterity of Abraham.

If [the crown] should not stand in thy posterity. --Shak.

2. Succeeding generations; future times. --Shak.

Their names shall be transmitted to posterity. --Shak.

Their names shall be transmitted to posterity. --Smalridge.

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

One of the "blessings of liberty" is obviously life, we fought the Revolution for this right. "To ourselves and our posterity" can ONLY mean that the Founding Fathers wanted to secure this right not only for themselves, but for those not yet born.

7 posted on 06/14/2008 10:23:23 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: yankeedame
There is no "Right to Life" in the US Constution, neither implied or explicit.

Amendment XIV: "...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law..."

How much more explicit do you want it?

8 posted on 06/14/2008 10:23:40 AM PDT by fzx12345 (ZOTTO ERGO SUM)
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To: Reagan Man

See, #7. The right to life is there.


9 posted on 06/14/2008 10:24:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: yankeedame
"...that among these are Life..

"...unalienable Rights, that among these are Life,..."

So it's in the Declaration of Independence.........you write:

If the reference is to "...that among these are Life, Liberty, and..." that's in the Declaration of Independence, which, I believe, was not predicated on the issue of human reproduction.

Really?

It says that LIFE is an UNALIENABLE RIGHT. What part of that would exclude a living baby inside the womb?

10 posted on 06/14/2008 10:26:54 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: wagglebee; yankeedame
BRAVO

We should all save your post! And send it to the SCOTUS -

Perfect and "unalienable"

And those who dispute it can go suck an egg.

11 posted on 06/14/2008 10:32:00 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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Thanks.


12 posted on 06/14/2008 10:34:57 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I wish the people who say there is no difference between McCain and Obama dare to make that claim on this thread.


13 posted on 06/14/2008 10:38:40 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: wagglebee
You're preaching to the choir. Thought you would have better understood. My remarks were specific to the term, "Right to Life", versus the fact that no "right" exists in our Constitution that allows the killing of an unborn child.

My remarks are based on President Reagan's words in his essay/book, "Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation". Which I'm sure you're familiar with.

"Our nation-wide policy of abortion on demand through all nine months of pregnancy was neither voted for by our people, nor enacted by our legislators--not a single state had such unrestricted abortion before the Supreme Court decreed it to be national policy in 1973. [It was] an act of raw judicial power"...

"Make no mistake, abortion-on-demand is not a right granted by the Constitution. Nowhere do the plain words of the Constitution even hint at a "right" so sweeping as to permit abortion up to the time the child is ready to be born."

"We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life--the unborn--without diminishing the value of all human life."

"Abraham Lincoln recognized that we could not survive as a free land when some men could decide that others were not fit to be free and should therefore be slaves. Likewise, we cannot survive as a free nation when some men decide that others are not fit to live and should be abandoned to abortion or infanticide. My Administration is dedicated to the preservation of America as a free land, and there is no cause more important for preserving that freedom than affirming the transcendent right to life of all human beings, the right without which no other rights have any meaning."

14 posted on 06/14/2008 10:43:39 AM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: Reagan Man
You're preaching to the choir. Thought you would have better understood.

I know, I was just pointing out that not only is there not even a hint of a "right" to murder the unborn, there is an implicit prohibition against it.

15 posted on 06/14/2008 10:54:55 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Perdogg
I wish the people who say there is no difference between McCain and Obama dare to make that claim on this thread.

Huge difference. One is an effete metro-sexual, the other a pschotic fart.

16 posted on 06/14/2008 10:57:03 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: wagglebee

While there is little or no ambiguity in the minds of pro-lifers. Its clear that in order to facilitate ending Roe v Wade, there must be a Right to Life or Human Rights amendment added to the Constitution that protects the unborn. Until such an amendment is passed into law, overturning RvW and returning the responsibility to the states is our next best option. And getting that fifth pro-life justice on the SCOTUS should be our paramount concern.


17 posted on 06/14/2008 11:13:43 AM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Wants My Conservative Vote in November --- EARN IT or NO DEAL !!!)
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To: wagglebee

All talk McCain. Where was he defending the unborn when Ginsberg was up for SCOTUS???? Why doesnt he defend this postion in front of Kennedy and Schumer when the talk about the super precedent for SCOTUS nominees??????

If this placates some of you fine - but judge a man by his actions not his words. Only when it is convienient will McCain stand by the unborn.


18 posted on 06/14/2008 11:13:58 AM PDT by sasafras (Obama is stupid, an idiot and confused, McCain is EVIL!!!!)
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To: sasafras
If this placates some of you fine - but judge a man by his actions not his words. Only when it is convienient will McCain stand by the unborn.

I agree completely. Politicians will generally say just about everything to get elected; however, in McCain's case it is not really in line with his past record. That is why I think his running mate is so important.

19 posted on 06/14/2008 11:22:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Perdogg

“I wish the people who say there is no difference between McCain and Obama dare to make that claim on this thread.”

Wish granted.

There is no meaningful difference. Both candidates are socialist in their outlook. The rhetoric is of course different, but the underlying philosophy is pretty much the same. In addition, Sen. McCain will say pretty much anything to obtain power. He’s a lot like President Nixon in that respect.

With regards to life issues, you have to look at what a politician is actually willing to do vice what sweet nothings they whisper in Catholic ears. In Sen. McCain’s case, that has been precious little. You can expect more of the same. That is to say, expect lots of lofty platitudes about life, but zero action. I mean let’s face it. If the GOP and it’s leadership were actually to “do” something about infanticide, it would rob them of one of their issues to rally the troops around.

Expect zero positive progress on infanticide on the political front for the next four years. In the mean time, I’ll be voting for a third party candidate whose rhetoric might actually match their deeds. I urge others to do the same.


20 posted on 06/14/2008 11:50:53 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

When did McCain come out in favor of Infanticide?

“There is no meaningful difference”, I have never seen such as BS statement on FR ever!


21 posted on 06/14/2008 11:53:12 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: wagglebee

“The 12 million illegal immigrants, McCain insisted, are “God’s children” and should be treated with compassion. This country “does not have 12 million pairs of handcuffs to arrest all these people - that’s not the kind of country we are.””

That’s right, Mr. McCain..GOD’s children, not yours,and certainly not the USA’s. As for the handcuffs? The LAW states these illegal aliens are to be deported. I don’t care if you use handcuffs or not, but stop ignoring the law and our sovereignty.


22 posted on 06/14/2008 11:59:26 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: wagglebee

“If McCain is honest, he will prove this by selecting someone who conservatives approve of.”

I agree. Talk is very, very, cheap. I want to see action.

“You shall know them by their fruit.”


23 posted on 06/14/2008 1:30:53 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: sasafras
If this placates some of you fine - but judge a man by his actions not his words. Only when it is convienient will McCain stand by the unborn.

Here's hoping MacQueeg stands by his promise to the unborn (He won't) better than he did his first wife when she had been horribly injured in a traffic accident and there was a wealthy beauty queen (Smurfette, the current Mrs. MacQ.) waiting in the wings.

24 posted on 06/14/2008 1:33:02 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: wagglebee

Where does McJerk stand on fetal stem cells?


25 posted on 06/14/2008 2:13:17 PM PDT by Grunthor (McCain or Obama.....go ahead, throw your vote away.)
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26 posted on 06/14/2008 5:41:48 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Perdogg

“When did McCain come out in favor of Infanticide?”

I never said that he stated he was in favor of abortion. He is looking to be elected as a Republican. So he’ll mumble all the pretty words about the right to life and then he simply won’t do anything about the practice if he happens to be elected to office. Much like most of his predecessors.

Since abortion is already legal through the second trimester in our country, what’s the difference between active advocacy and passive acquiescence? The end result is the same.


27 posted on 06/14/2008 8:08:26 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“That is to say, expect lots of lofty platitudes about life, but zero action.”

Here is what you consider ‘zero’ action regarding McCain:


Supports repealing Roe v. Wade. (May 2007)

Voted YES on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)

Voted YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)

Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)

Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)

Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)

Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)

Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)

Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)

Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)

Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)

Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004)

Rated 75% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)

Compare this to Obama’s voting record with regard to the same issues:

Voted NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)

Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion. (Mar 2008)

Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)

Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)

Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)

Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)

Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)


“I’ll be voting for a third party candidate whose rhetoric might actually match their deeds. I urge others to do the same.”

Why would we want to vote for defeatists?


28 posted on 06/14/2008 8:39:00 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: AuntB

You’ll note that the anti-war Libertarians, who favor defeat in Iraq, oppose the patriot act, and favor partial birth abortion, share the same views as Obama on these issues. The DU trolls also favor Obama’s views. They really want Obama to win. So theads like this one will be quickly hijacked into immigration threads, just like they did with Bush. But I see you already know the format.

P.S. Who do you want to win, Obama or McCain?


29 posted on 06/14/2008 8:44:37 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Grunthor

Where do you stand on pulling all U.S. troops from all nations abroad? And when was the proper time to withdraw our forces from Europe after the second world war?


30 posted on 06/14/2008 8:47:23 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: death2tyrants

Please don’t vote third party and give the election to Obama.

McCain will come around on some of these points. Pray!


31 posted on 06/14/2008 9:44:42 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: death2tyrants

Source for your list, please.


32 posted on 06/14/2008 9:45:29 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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33 posted on 06/14/2008 9:47:14 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee
McCain Meets Privately with Fr. Pavone - Says Constitutional Right to Life Applies to Unborn

Faithful Citizenship: “Catholic Vote” is very sought after

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Commentary: Faithful Citizenship and the Formed Conscience

Catholic League: Where's Obama's 'Catholic Advisory Council'? [Not to be found!]

Right-wing Christians beginning to lean left (Misleading headline)

Catholics Debate Obama Vote

US Bishops Urge Voters to Give Priority to Life [Ecumenical]

Corralling the Catholic vote: Political necessity or pipe dream?

DOUG KMIEC: Catholic Reasons for Hope in the General Election

EDITORIAL: Why This Catholic Dreads the Campaign

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Thoughts On ‘Roman Catholics For Obama’

How Obama's Catholics Will Dodge the Infanticide Question

Catholic Pro-Life Leader Feuds With Barack Obama's "Catholic" Backers

McCain and the Pope: McCain cannot win in November without the Catholic vote (Reagan re-visited?)

Catholics Cannot Vote for Pols Who Support Abortion, Except for Morally Grave Reasons: KY Bishops

34 posted on 06/14/2008 9:48:06 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee
Pray for an end to abortion and the conversion of America to a mindset of life!

35 posted on 06/14/2008 9:50:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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36 posted on 06/14/2008 9:51:35 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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37 posted on 06/15/2008 3:37:54 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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38 posted on 06/15/2008 4:18:17 AM PDT by NYer (Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: wagglebee
If McCain is honest, he will prove this by selecting someone who conservatives approve of.

I approve of Michael Steele. Not because he is black but because he is a solid pro life conservative who will speak eloquently on why being a pro life conservative is the proper path for America.

39 posted on 06/15/2008 7:05:11 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather.)
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To: yankeedame

It depends on the meaning of the word “person.” Ordinarily this is taken to be a living, individual human being. Scientifically, the unborn qualify. They are indisputably human. They are indisputably alive from the moment of conception. They don’t die and then come to life. They are not a blob of tissue but living tissue forming a human person.

The right to life is prior to the right to liberty, because you can’t very well be free if you are killed.


40 posted on 06/15/2008 7:08:22 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: yankeedame
which, I believe, was not predicated on the issue of human reproduction.

People are appearing here by other means?

41 posted on 06/15/2008 7:46:01 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: jwalsh07

Steele would be good.

I also REALLY like Sarah Palin of Alaska, she is solidly pro-life and very beautiful. The downside is that she is not very well known and Alaska goes GOP anyway.

I think it is very possible that McCain would choose to only serve one term. It is critical for some conservatives to get into the national spotlight. This has been one of Bush’s biggest failures, NOBODY in his administration has aspirations for elected office as far as I can tell.


42 posted on 06/15/2008 7:54:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: death2tyrants

“Where do you stand on pulling all U.S. troops from all nations abroad?”

For it.

“And when was the proper time to withdraw our forces from Europe after the second world war?”

As soon as the German and Italian governments could stand on their own.


43 posted on 06/15/2008 8:12:35 AM PDT by Grunthor (John McCain, Soc. Arizona)
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To: death2tyrants

How does that answer my question?


44 posted on 06/15/2008 8:13:07 AM PDT by Grunthor (John McCain, Soc. Arizona)
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To: Perdogg

McCain being pro-life will get him MY vote


45 posted on 06/15/2008 8:42:07 AM PDT by NewCenturions (I've got a posthumous crush on Dave Guard)
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To: wagglebee

Then why does he support embryonic stem cell research?


46 posted on 06/15/2008 9:14:46 AM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: Lesforlife

McCain probably hasn’t figured out that there is a link (when you’re not really pro-life, it’s hard to fake it).

The US Catholic Bishops have issued a fantastic condemnation of ESC research:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031448/posts


47 posted on 06/15/2008 9:20:53 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Reagan Man

AMEN to THAT!


48 posted on 06/15/2008 9:57:57 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Pitchforks! Get yer torches and pitchforks!)
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To: wagglebee
McCain's a far cry more pro-life than Barry O will ever be. My support for McCain is based on this issue and the War on radical Islam alone.


49 posted on 06/15/2008 10:53:47 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: hunter112
I'm looking forward to conservatives in Congress "borking" President Obama's liberal nominees.

Yeah, just like they did Ruth Bader Ginsberg. She got 96 "yea" votes...
50 posted on 06/15/2008 10:54:39 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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