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A Partnership With Iraq.
Washington Post ^ | June 15, 2008

Posted on 06/15/2008 7:06:53 PM PDT by Kaslin

The Shiite government signals a desire for an alliance with the United States. Shouldn't that be welcomed?

THOUGH IT was hardly noticed in Washington, Iraq's Shiite-led government sent a powerful message to Iran and to the Middle East last week. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, whose coalition is often portrayed as an Iranian client, traveled to Tehran for a meeting with supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The ayatollah bluntly declared that Iraq's "most important problem" was the continuing presence of U.S. troops. He pressured Mr. Maliki to stop negotiating a package of agreements with the Bush administration that would delineate a "strategic framework" between Iraq and the United States and provide for the deployment of U.S. forces beyond the expiration of a U.N. mandate at the end of this year.

Mr. Maliki refused. He assured his Iranian hosts that Iraq would not be a launching pad for an American attack on Iran. But he pointedly told a press briefing that negotiations on the strategic partnership would continue. He repeated that commitment on Friday, even after warning that the talks had "reached a dead end." In effect, the Iraqi prime minister was saying that his country does not want to become an Iranian satellite but an independent Arab state that would look to the United States to ensure its security.

This would seem to be an obvious U.S. gain in what, according to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) as well as President Bush, is the urgent task of countering Iran's attempt to dominate the Middle East. It means that Iraq, a country with the world's second largest oil reserves and a strategic linchpin of the Middle East, just might emerge from the last five years of war and turmoil as an American ally, even if its relations with Iran remain warm.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: almaliki; geopolitics; iran; iraq; middleeast; sadr

1 posted on 06/15/2008 7:06:53 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The Washington Post no less.


2 posted on 06/15/2008 7:14:02 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: SandRat; SJackson; holdonnow; sono; HonestConservative; MNJohnnie; rodguy911

ping


3 posted on 06/15/2008 7:15:00 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Bush, wake the hell up, drop the legacy BS, do the right thing, kick *ss all the way out.)
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To: Kaslin

And Harry Reid, B.O., and Nancy Pelosi are “deeply saddened” that we’re winning a war that we were so obviously losing. lol


4 posted on 06/15/2008 7:16:50 PM PDT by GWMcClintock (The last thing the US needs is B.O.!)
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To: Kaslin

Wow.


5 posted on 06/15/2008 7:19:08 PM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Yeah I know. surprising isn’t it?


6 posted on 06/15/2008 7:20:07 PM PDT by Kaslin (The Nation will live to regret what the Court has done today. I dissent. Justice Scalia)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; elhombrelibre; Tennessean4Bush
Mr. Maliki refused. He assured his Iranian hosts that Iraq would not be a launching pad for an American attack on Iran.

OK, well then, let's use Kuwait. ;-)

7 posted on 06/15/2008 7:21:03 PM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Kaslin

and there is one other often overlooked strong influence working on the Iraqi population, and that is the individual GI who works the streets. From what I have heard from them, they are greeted by the average Iraqi as friend, and for good reason.


8 posted on 06/15/2008 7:36:51 PM PDT by elpadre (nation)
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To: Kaslin
This would seem to be an obvious U.S. gain in what, according to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) as well as President Bush, is the urgent task of countering Iran's attempt to dominate the Middle East.

Jeez .... The Washington Post just figured that out?

Their darling, Obama, would have bugged out of Iraq by early this year if he had had his chance. How could the U.S. have countered the Iranian threats after abandoning Iraq to the military control of Iran?

As things stand right now, post Surge, Iraq is getting stronger by the day and U.S. air power based in Iraq only needs a Presidential order to Shock & Awe Iran's nuclear ambitions into oblivion.

**********

Obama 18 months ago:

Published Jan. 30, 2007 ...... Obama wants troops home by spring ’08 ……. Illinois senator, presidential candidate introduces bill to force redeployment

9 posted on 06/15/2008 7:37:29 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Kaslin

Hey Democrats! News Flash!

The US won the war, and then it won the occupation. This means that Iraq is a strategic ally, like Germany and Japan used to be. And we’re still friends with them.

Quit sulking! Join the victory parade! Go with us into the future—don’t cling to the past. Don’t just sit at home and sulk because you didn’t get the defeat you wanted.


10 posted on 06/15/2008 8:10:12 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Kaslin

He assured his Iranian hosts that Iraq would not be a launching pad for an American attack on Iran.


How many billions have we spent in Iraq?
How much American BLOOD in Iraq?

Iraqi response is by pledging this to Iran!

Our troops must not be asked to continue to suffer and die for the most ungrateful nation and hideous religion in history.

Time to get out and let them enjoy iranian style peace.


11 posted on 06/15/2008 8:18:15 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Allegra
OK, well then, let's use Kuwait. ;-)

Or Minot, N.D. Isn't that where the missile silos are?

12 posted on 06/15/2008 8:19:19 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Kaslin; M Kehoe; Matchett-PI
"...Ayatollah Ali Khamenei..."

One round - one kill! There are many volunteers for that duty.

What-the-hell is wrong with our politicos? This muzzie should be room temperature ............ FRegards

13 posted on 06/15/2008 8:41:43 PM PDT by gonzo ( What Part Of "Shall Not Be Infringed" does anyone have a problem with? The USSC will soon wonder ..)
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To: TomasUSMC

Maliki just stuffed it in his ear and you missed it?


14 posted on 06/15/2008 8:47:46 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Yeah, let’s just get out A.S.A.P. and let the Iranians have their strategic victory and become boss. Then they can turn all their attention back to Afghanistan./S/


15 posted on 06/15/2008 8:50:10 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner

We can’t attack the Iranians from Iraq
but
Iranians can attack Americans from Iran

The enemy has a sanctuary from which to launch attacks to kill Americans.

The people who don’t see a problem with that now

didn’t see it in Vietnam either and look what we got
tagline:


16 posted on 06/15/2008 8:57:59 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Maliki has assured Iran that he will not permit America to attack Iran from Iraq.

June 8
Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki of Iraq, seeking to soothe Iranian opposition to a long-term American military presence in his country, assured officials during a meeting in Tehran on Sunday that American bases in Iraq would never be used to attack Iran.


17 posted on 06/15/2008 9:01:22 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Allegra

Or our ships or our long range bombers. There are options for destroying Iran’s military.


18 posted on 06/15/2008 9:14:22 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Obama is al Qaeda's only hope in Iraq.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Should we not be reading about a quid pro quo for this deal? What is Iran going to do for Iraq?

And, promises don’t seem to have much weight in the ME.


19 posted on 06/15/2008 9:15:10 PM PDT by casino66 ( If I vote Dem I'll get everything 'free')
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To: TomasUSMC

You are taking the bait that the writer is dangling and missing the real news here. It is obvious to the whole world, including the Iranians, what his ultimate intent is, and that is to sign a long term deal with the U.S. to have bases in his country to protect his country from hostile aggressors (i.e. Iran). He is delivering a message to Iran that he is signing a long term deal with U.S. That is the news that rocked the Iranians, not his diplomatic assurances about how they might be used. He is sticking it in their ear, the fluff that everyone knows is just diplomatic speak about not being used to attack Iran is just that: fluff. His message cleared the sinuses of the Iranians. Believe me, Maliki is very grateful to the Americans and will tell all who will listen. The last few months have been all about Maliki defeating the Iranians and driving them out of Iraq. We have won the war. It is getting close to champagne time.


20 posted on 06/15/2008 9:21:26 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: TomasUSMC

No nation openly agrees to let us use their territory to attack another nation. Such action is an act of war and always requires an individual decision at the time. Iraq doesn’t exist to be used by us to attack Iran. That does not make them “ungrateful” They didn’t exactly ask us to invade them whether it brought them some good things or not.


21 posted on 06/15/2008 9:22:24 PM PDT by Williams
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

In the future, expect leftwingers to hold pro-American Iraqis in the same kind of contempt that they hold, say, pro-American Miami Cubans in. Every Iraqi they encounter or see on TV will be a reminder that they wished for failure and defeat and suffering for Iraq but did not get it.


22 posted on 06/15/2008 9:33:44 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: elhombrelibre
Or our ships or our long range bombers. There are options for destroying Iran’s military.

Yep.

And WTH is Jack Murtha doing on this thread? ;-)

23 posted on 06/15/2008 9:35:52 PM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Allegra; Kaslin; NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...

Yes,...good news it would seem...thanks.;


24 posted on 06/15/2008 10:05:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Kaslin; gonzo; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; LucyT; MeekOneGOP
We don't need Iraq to attack Iran. And we don't expect a public statement from Iraq in this regard--compare to Pakistan.

Syria lost its North Korean nuclear program--and we had plausible deniability.

What we have accomplished in Iraq is twofold:

One, we tied up the Islamist enemy and killed his leadership and 20,000 of his fighters--simultaneously preventing another strike on CONUS;

Two, we have made an ally of an enemy--all through the steadfast performance of the American fighting man, and the American commander-in-chief.

Iran will have its toys broken and its mullahs pwned at a time of our choosing.


25 posted on 06/15/2008 10:21:30 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; Kaslin
Nicely said....The Future Iraq

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The WaPo notices in today’s editorial a signal lost on much of the MSM over the last week. The fact that the new government of Iraq stood up to Iran and signaled that they DO want a partnership with America. Just on their terms:

************************SNIP*********************

The WaPo goes on to wonder why the Democrats have stood in lockstep with the leaders of Iran in denouncing the US-Iraqi agreement before the thing is even written.

“It’s pretty clear their intentions are that we put in a basing system in Iraq that parallels the Korea-Japan history,”

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The history of every single outside occupation of Iraq over the last thousand years argues against that logic.”
-Sen. James Webb

The history suggests that it can’t be done….so why even try says the Democrats. Sure, it may be impossible but at least friggin try! In the end their mission is to make it appear that Bush wants to stay in Iraq forever, that way Obama can look good when he says he will bring them all home.

The WaPo continues:

If the United States were to make a formal commitment to defend Iraq from external aggression, congressional consideration and approval of the pact would be appropriate. For now, the biggest risk is that Tehran and its allies will pressure Mr. Maliki into backing away from a partnership with Washington. In that case, Iran would hasten to substitute itself as Iraq’s defender and strategic ally, with momentous implications for the rest of the Middle East. Surely this is not what the Democrats want.

Surely you jest?

This is exactly what they want. How else to blame Bush for it?


26 posted on 06/15/2008 11:01:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All

Post #26 was from the Flopping Aces Blog....


27 posted on 06/15/2008 11:09:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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And iran's Proxy...al-Sadr is not doing well:

From the Strata Sphere Blog:

Sadrists Movement Is Dead, Pulls Out Of Elections

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the Sadrist movement is now limping off the Iraqi political stage, too injured from a self-inflicted wound of extremism to survive by popular support:

The movement of anti-American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr said Saturday that it would not take part in provincial elections this year, one day after it formed a new paramilitary group to fight U.S. troops.

Sadr is clearly a spent political force.

28 posted on 06/15/2008 11:13:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: PhilDragoo; Ernest_at_the_Beach
May I repeat Phil's statement:
"Iran will have its toys broken and its mullahs pwned at a time of our choosing."
I would only add, then I have to get ready for work... the longer it is postponed, the more Iran will ultimately loose.
29 posted on 06/16/2008 6:02:47 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now where left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: AliVeritas

Bush should go to Baghdad one more time.


30 posted on 06/16/2008 6:49:12 AM PDT by sono (The best Democrat in the race is John McCain.)
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To: PhilDragoo; Travis McGee

Travis McGee predicted this result years ago re al Qaeda thugs rushing into Iraq to be destroyed like moths attacking lanterns/candles:

“What we have accomplished in Iraq is twofold:

One, we tied up the Islamist enemy and killed his leadership and 20,000 of his fighters—simultaneously preventing another strike on CONUS;

Two, we have made an ally of an enemy—all through the steadfast performance of the American fighting man, and the American commander-in-chief.

Iran will have its toys broken and its mullahs pwned at a time of our choosing.”


31 posted on 06/16/2008 7:19:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Kerry was a Uber Liberal, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas makes Kerry look like Jesse Helms!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Thanks Ernest. Iran is trying to get through “spontaneous demonstrations” and negotiations what it couldn’t and can’t achieve through military and paramilitary means. In this it has partially and temporarily succeeded.


32 posted on 06/16/2008 7:21:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Kaslin

Yesterday Karzai said he'd send troops into Pakistan. Maliki has been putting the heat on the Mahdi Army for weeks now, determined to defeat them, and now tells Khamenei to cool it with the "get the US out" talk. Funny how the Middle Eastern politicians have more brains than our own.

Prior to the Iraq/Afghan invasion, you could say that our three worst enemies were the governments of Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan. But after the invasion, you see all these pictures of grateful Iraqis and Afghans waving US flags and hanging out with our troops. (And in Iran's case, they shout "Death to Ahmadinejad" at protests and say they would welcome US airstrikes). They appreciate what we've done for them, while the Dems complain about it. They're more supportive of America than many people in our own country! Perhaps our three best allies are the people of Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan.
33 posted on 06/16/2008 8:23:46 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I hear Australia is lovely in November)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Webb is sick.

As an author, he distorts culture to inject his polymorphous perversity into the story.

As a veteran, elected representative, father of an American warrior, he can barely contain himself from a physical assault on POTUS/CinC.

Hey, Jimmy Webb--if God had wanted man to fly, He'd-a given 'im wings!

Let Macaca be a lesson: a slip of the tongue gets you a sawed-off psychopath where you coulda had a patriot.

34 posted on 06/16/2008 10:12:25 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Agreed!


35 posted on 06/16/2008 10:47:35 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: AliVeritas

JUst another example of the Marxist demrats taking the same point of view of our enemies.

The friend of my enemy is my enemy.

Traitors.

Picture Jim Webb as vp.


36 posted on 06/16/2008 11:30:53 AM PDT by HonestConservative (Taxpaying Slave Class Xenophobe)
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To: Williams

Howdy! Long time, pal. Must be an election comin’ up ............. FRegards


37 posted on 06/16/2008 6:14:18 PM PDT by gonzo ( What Part Of "Shall Not Be Infringed" does anyone have a problem with? The USSC will soon wonder ..)
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