Posted on 06/16/2008 12:13:45 PM PDT by pissant
Kaus expects nothing less than a full-blown conservosphere freak-out over this. I’m underwhelmed.
After his public conference call with Clinton supporters (covered extensively by Jonathan Martin) Saturday, John McCain met privately with some 75 of those supporters at his Virginia headquarters, two people who were there said…
“He stayed for a good almost half hour afterwards shaking hands, listening to our concerns, talking to us,” said [Party Unity My Ass] founder Will Bower, who said he thought many of the people there would vote for McCain…
Bower said he’d liked McCain’s answer on judges, in which he “pointed out that he supported Bill Clinton with both Ginsberg [sic] and Breyer.”
What’s he supposed to say? He was there to woo liberals. The best he could do realistically when they asked him about judges was to point to the Gang of 14 and emphasize that he wasn’t an obstructionist when the left’s turn came to pack the Court. Which, incidentally, would be an odd thing for the right to fault him for at this point: After years of Democratic shrieking about Bush’s appointments, my sense is most conservatives believe the senate’s advice and consent should be limited to determining whether the nominee has the legal chops to do the job plus some cursory ideological vetting to make sure there’s no truly fringe kookiness anywhere in his/her closet. If the left had followed McCain’s example, Miguel Estrada would be five years into his tenure on the D.C. Circuit.
Besides, unlike immigration, this clearly isn’t a subject on which Maverick is as far left as Obama — although given the composition of the senate next year, the difference between a McCain appointee and an Obama appointee is likely to be the difference between, say, an O’Connor and a Ginsburg. The former’s better than the latter, but if you think you’re getting another Roberts or Alito under any circumstances, think again.
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“McCain to Hillary supporters: I voted to confirm Ginsburg and Breyer, you know”
Republican McCain supporters to Conservatives; IT’S ABOUT THE JUDGES!!!!
Every time this POS does this to them, it just gets FUNNIER AND FUNNIER!
After McCain closes Guantanamo (bringing more terrorists onto US soil), gives amnesty to hordes of illegals, enforces McCain-Feingold, refuses to drill for the massive amounts of oil at our disposal, there is not that much difference than Barry O, my friend.
Fundamental failure of logic.
No, we're not all going to once again have that displeasure, sir.
A Thompson for me please!!
I doubt that very much. One would have to be a hermit to not be aware of the latest passionate caresses given the Dems by McCain....and there seem to be several new ones every day.
I would.
If you happen to find out that the admiral's widdle kid is on fire, Freepmail me immediately!
>Is every other Republican in the Senate off-limits?
Is every other Republican in the Senate as far left as any democrat so called “Moderate?”
Yes? No?
McCain is way out there, friend.
The funniest thing is that you just KNOW it's going to happen again, but THEY don't.
WhatEVER gives them the idea that he'll appoint or the Senate will approve conservative justices????? The one who said Alito is too conservative? He's going to appoint conservative judges???? ROFL! Yeah, SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE he is!
I have the happy chore in this election to vote my conscious now because the choices are so horrible.
I vote NONE OF THE ABOVE!!
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That’s because conservatives respect the outcome of elections.
When a president wins his office, he is entitled to appoint the judiciary. Unless those appointments are not qualified, they should be approved.
Leftists don’t do things this way. They have no respect for the outcomes of elections that don’t go their way.
Yet another who is emotionally driven, DU style, weighs in and attacks others for holding to their principles.
I’m going to ask you a question I asked another, and never got an honest response to.
We know McCain’s stance on the Scam of “global warming”, of which he will tax you over something which does not exist. Do you want me, and others like me, to ignore my principles and help McCain steal from you?
Why do people think McLame won’t raise taxes?
I hear ya.
I guess I would question how so many felt that having a
ACLU director on the SCotUS was a good thing.
I’m not so sure I would praise any senators that so readily put someone like Bader on the court as being respective of much at all. More like uninformed or naive as all get out. jmo.
Because in 20 years in the senate he has never voted for a tax increase.
So there’s really no point in voting for mccain then?
You mean, like McCain's doubts about another Alito?
http://www.atr.org/content/html/mccainvotingrecord.html
According to Americans for Tax Reform, McCain has told reporters “off the record” that he would raise taxes if elected President.
I’ve heard some very good arguments for voting McCain. Just be sure what you understand what you are voting for. IMO, it is the death of the GOP as a conservative party.
When mccain picks hillary or lieberman for vp, I’m finished with the gop.
There never was
“Because in 20 years in the senate he has never voted for a tax increase. “
He voted against Bush’s tax cuts. That’s bad enough.
No, you just crawled into their bed again with the others of the Gang.
One-sided capitulation....EXACTLY what they want.
Besides, since you moved down there, WTH do you care about keeping warm?
JUST EXACTLY HOW MUCH FARTHER UP YOUR A$$ DOES HE HAVE TO RAM YOUR PRINCIPLES FOR YOU NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM?
Geeeeeezzzz, this is getting ridiculous...guess I'm gonna have to make it a tag line and save myself all the typing....
All I am saying is better the devil you know then one you don’t. I think an Obama presidency would be far worse than a McCain presidency. At least, McCain has the war on terror right which is far more important at this point.
And yes, it was like 90 today.
I call him a cretin because he is one. This fool doesn’t even think we can read and know what he’s doing. Either that, or he really just doesn’t give a rat’s damn....Take your pick.
Orin Hatch voted for Ginsberg I am sure. In fact I believe he suggested her to Clinton figuring she was so old she would pass.
Democrats nominate liberal judges and Republicans nominate left of center to Conservative judges.
So, your answer is yes, you allow me to aid and abet a Socialist thief?
Hey, with GOP'ers like you, who needs enemies like the Democraps?
Relax and debate a common base of ideas and attack the Rats.
How sad that the GOP is saddled with a nominee who couldn't have won their party's nomination without the support of folks who deeply detest the GOP.
And his drift to the (relative) center (aka the left) is nowhere near complete! Anyone here who honestly thinks McCain would veto a "bipartisan" child-healthcare bill (i.e. Obama's current goal for socialist extension of the entitlement system) please speak now (so I can laugh at you). This will be another sacrificial lamb we will be expected to give up for "the wot".
By late October, the sole remaining difference between Obama and McCain could be Iraq/Iran policy. Friendly town-hall meetings with La Raza terrorists are proof McCain does not take American security seriously (and he has actually been at war, so I doubt he is naive enough to believe in the utopian fraud of "transformative democracy" et al). Take from that what you want.
Juan is already making it reeeaaaally difficult.
If he picks an asinine, leftist, mushy VP candidate (Bloomberg, Lieberman, Kerry, Graham, Snowe, Huckabee, Giuliani), he and the GOP deserve to lose BIG.
Would mccain make a promise to only nominate conservative supreme court nominees? I mean keep sending them up to get them shot down no matter the outcome. In the least could we end up with no new supreme court justices under his term? I am about down to taxes and justices as the only reason I can see to vote for him. Is it better to sit back and watch the republic burn or to actually give it your stamp of approval?
BTW, the question was regarding tax increases.
“off the record” Oh, okay.
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Who's pretending?
Most of us have known that there's nothing covert about his leftist bent.
For extra credit: Who voted Against Ginsberg and Breyer?
For extra extra credit: How many judges did Fred Thompson vote against during his time in the Senate?
Answers:
1) Don Nickles (OK), Robert C. Smith (NH), Jesse Helms (NC).
Several additional senators voted against Breyer because of ethical concerns.
Ginsberg had 3 negative votes, and Breyer 9. At the time, that was the norm — you didn’t attack the president’s nominees for being of the same party as the President.
Of course, Scalia was easily confirmed as well, so it was a two-way street until the entire process was taken over by the political fight over abortion.
Breyer’s vote was 87-9.
An out-of-context quote from a democrat, even one who says he is going to support our candidate, from an event that has no transcript, and no public record, just isn’t going to push me the wrong way.
For all I know, McCain was explaining why he thought he would be able to get good judges through the process, and was explaining that he voted for the President’s picks because he believed the Presidents had a right to their nominees.
Thanks, I pulled the 80-10 vote off of wiki.
For extra extra credit: How many judges did Fred Thompson vote against during his time in the Senate?
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Back at you.
For extra credit: Is Fred Thompson running for President at this time? And, did he make a ploy for Hillary's supporters by bragging about his support for Breyer and Ginsburg?
At that time, it was considered good to vote for the nominee as long as he showed good character. That’s how people like Ginsberg and Scalia got in.
And that’s why the libs tried to destroy Thomas’s character in their hearings.
There are plenty of differences between the two. Obama won’t even salute the flag. Obama has also said he will stand with the Muslims if the political winds turn ugly. The Muslim militant wouldn’t pass a security clearance for janitor.
He could work for TSA as an airport screener. Except for the fact that he has a pleasant personality. /s
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