Skip to comments.Guzzling Coffee May Cut Heart Disease
Posted on 06/16/2008 8:21:54 PM PDT by blam
Guzzling coffee may cut heart disease
22:00 16 June 2008
NewScientist.com news service
A strong cup of coffee in the morning can feel like a life saver. Now, one of the largest and longest studies of coffee drinking suggests that coffee may indeed boost your lifespan providing you drink enough of the stuff, that is.
The study tracked 129,000 men and women over two decades. It found that people who consumed several cups of coffee every day were less likely to die of heart disease than those who shied away from the stuff. Heart disease is an umbrella term for conditions including heart attacks, stroke, and arrhythmia.
The researchers found that women who drank four to five cups per day were 34% less likely to die of heart disease, while men who had more than five cups a day were 44% less likely to die.
The new report adds heft to the hypothesis that coffee can stem heart disease, perhaps by battling the inflammatory damage associated with early stage illness.
"It looks like coffee has some effect that hasn't been established before. The general idea is that coffee is not so bad," says study leader Esther Lopez-Garcia, an epidemiologist at the Autonomous University of Madrid.
Yet Lopez-Garcia and other experts caution that it's too early for people to act on the study's findings.
"Before declaring that drinking up to seven cups of coffee per day is beneficial for health, we should wait for some other confirmation," warns Francesco Sofi, an epidemiologist at the University of Florence, who was not involved in the study.
The new study is not the first to connect coffee drinking with good health. Over the years, other
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El Presidente Hugo once said he drank 33 cups a day.
That’s a relief, off the whole Russert thing.
Sure, drinking 7 cups of coffee/day might enable you to live longer, but... you probably spend most of that time going to the bathroom to take a wiz.
I am sending this article to my husband...
2 outa 3 ain't too bad!
.....BECAUSE CAFFEINISM IS FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I gulp around 7 cups a day...and proud to say that they’re never from Starbucks.
I should live forever, then...
Wait a minute.....so this will offset the smoking?
Just a month ago the doctor told me to quit drinking my 12 cup pot of coffee in the morning and switch to tea because of blood pressure.
:) me too!!!
I think this is an old wives tale.
Coffee is to the heart kinda like my old car. Runs force of habit.
who funded the study
People love to hear good news about their bad habits.
I don’t want to know what it does to your bowels.
I think the most I’ve done is 3 or 4, but I drink coffee really sweet.
Thanks for the advice Francesco, but like most of the other joojoo the Scientific Community promulgates, this too will be taken with a grain - or two, of salt ;^)
Maybe they should just mind their own business.
Well, if they relase a study tomorrow saying masturbation cures cancer I’m gonna go light up a cigar to celebrate.
Early stage COPD is getting me more concerned about smoking these days and I have cut my smoking in half.
And we were all told that it was bad for your heart. More junk science shown for what it was. When we going to find the truth about Global Scamming?
Pray for W and Our Troops
I have a four cup pot in my bedroom and have two cups and watch the news from my bed. After that, I have enough “get up and go” to put the rest of the coffee in a thermos and head downstairs to drink the rest while I fire up my computer. I will not give up coffee and I want real coffee, none of the “flavored” coffee crap.
I just top it off about a dozen times.:-P
I'm gonna live forever!
I quit smoking 9 months ago after 40+ years. I still want one every day though. If I have to give up coffee, I'd rather die, lol. (BTW, I gained 25 pounds in 9 months)
Too late! I have been acting on it for years! And guzzling is a good word for my coffee drinking. Black, strong and lots of it!
Chocolate is good for you and now coffee.
Life is good.
That's what I would call a well balanced diet!:)
Then I'm gonna live forever. So good so far.
You might also want to tell him that drinking coffee decreases the likelihood of getting diabetes, too. ;)
Which, of course, would also lower your risk of getting heart disease. And kidney disease. And losing your vision. And lower your risk of impotence. And peripheral neuropathy....
Coffee is yummy, too! :) Just stay away from too much cream, sugar, and whipped cream, though.
My doctor gave me 30 days of larazepam and told me to stop drinking coffee.
This was the second time I tried: the first time I tried I couldn't move for two days. Literally, I was crawling to the bathroom to take a bath.
So this time I went and bought a pound and a half of regular, a half-pound of decaf and mixed them.
When I ran out of that, I bought a pound of each. I went a couple pound-of-each cycles then went to a half-pound of regular/pound and a half of decaf. After a couple cycles of that, I went all decaf.
It worked. Now I don't even like the stuff.
A shot of Irish Whiskey added to all that sugar and cream makes it even better. Oh, don't forget to add coffee.
Smoking doesn't need any offsetting -- tobacco smoking extends lifespan of smokers. Note that this does not imply that 'smokers live longer'. To see why, consider an example - although respirators extend lifespan the users of respirators live shorter than non-users or ex-users of respirators. In other words, both, therapeutic/protective factors or harmful factors can statistically correlate with diseases or reduced lifespan. It is the task of hard science (such as animal experiments, randmized intervention trials) to disentangle the causal chains. The statistical correlations on self-selected subjects are a mere hint for hard science to find out where in the causal chain leading to disease some factor (smoking, respirators...) fits.
For the last 50 years the antismoking "science" had, therefore, sought to show in experiments (on lab animals) that smoking shortens lifespan of smoking animals or any disease at all. It always backfired showing exactly the opposite -- smoking animals live longer, stay thinner, healthier under variety of exposure to industrial toxins & carcinogens and perform better on tests (especially on cognitive tests). For example, National Cancer Institute sponsored a massive series of experiments on smoking animals from 1970 to 1974. For test animals, the scientific team chose a breed of 'Syrian golden hamsters' which were known to be particularly sensitive to tobacco smoke. In separate groups they exposed hamsters to dusts of known carcinogens & industrial toxins (in 5 groups: asbestos 1,2, NiO, CoO, diethylnitrosamine) or to plain filtered air (1 group "sham dust" to equalize stress of handling). Each of these groups was further divided into smoking half (lifelong 7 hours/day exposure to heavy high tar cig. smoke) and non-smoking half (filtered air). The hamsters were left to live their complete lifespans then autopsied in detail. All the smoking hamsters lived longer, stayed thinner and had lower tissue accumulations of industrial toxins they were exposed to. Or, as the team's report to NCI concluded (from page 40 in the pdf file):
With the exception of the two asbestos-exposed groups (Groups 5 and 6), the groups exposed to cigarette smoke lived significantly (p<0.05) longer than their sham-smoke-exposed cohorts. The hamsters exposed to asbestos plus cigarette smoke also outlived their sham-smoke-exposed cohorts; however the difference was not statistically significant. Asbestos decreased the lifespan of the asbestos-exposed groups and thereby masked, to a degree, the difference in the survival between the smoke-exposed animals and their sham-smoke-exposed cohorts which is so readily apparent in other groups (Figure 23).
Here is one of the graphs given in the appendices, illustrating the consistent general pattern (upper curve is for survival advantage of smoking vs nonsmoking hamsters exceeding 40%, while the lower curve shows weight difference, with smoking hamsters staying thinner by 12 to 25%).
This isn't some kind of exception, but a consistent general pattern in hundreds of animal experiments in the last 50 years. For example, below is the survival graph from a 2005 mice experiment (discussed in another thread here or another 2004 experiment on rats):
In short: Smoking is good for you. The claims of antismoking "science" are based entirely on junk science (the statistical correlations on self-selected samples of smokers, non-smokers and ex-smokers), not because they didn't try using hard science but because hard science always came out the "wrong way", showing exactly the opposite from what they wished to see.
Decaffeinated! Rats!! I hate decaffeinated coffee.
Ah yes, steak, chocolate cream pies, and fried potatoes; best thing in the world for you....
Coffee is also good for your liver, so have an expresso and live longer.
Bad habit? My FRiend, coffee is a gift from God above. He created demerara sugar immediately afterwards to compliment it. He did it because he loves us and wants us to be awake to appreciate it!
Here's a quick discussion on the drum roaster I use.
Sounds great. What roast level?
Ditto - bottom line.
I could be guzzling Rock Star or other more potent stuff popular with yoots today, I view coffee as "less bad" at worst.
I drink 6 cups every morning—just to get my heart moving.
So the poor NCI, after spending all that money, had to bury the report and fall back on the stuff that works, the pliable and "interpretable" junk science of statistical correlations on self-selected samples of smokers, ex-smokers and non-smokers. What could they do, the antismoking scam had to go on and hard science (experiments) just would not cooperate and show that smoking is anything but good for the health of smokers.
Change the quack. Coffe cuases only a transient increase of blood pressure and heart rate, as do sex, laughing or physical workout. They are all good exercises strenghtening over time your cardio-vascular system. Coffe is also protective against senility and liver diseases.
Black coffee is a liver stimulator and flusher. Has to hot and black