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Report: Israel Held Drill As Preparation For Attack On Iran
Haaretz ^ | June 20, 2008

Posted on 06/20/2008 3:14:56 AM PDT by Fennie

U.S. officials say Israel carried out a large military exercise this month that appeared to be a rehearsal for a potential bombing attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, The New York Times reported on Friday.

Citing unidentified American officials, the newspaper said more than 100 Israeli F-16 and F-15 fighters took part in the maneuvers over the eastern Mediterranean and Greece in the first week of June.

It said the exercise appeared to be an effort to focus on long-range strikes and illustrates the seriousness with which Israel views Iran's nuclear program. The newspaper said Israeli officials would not discuss the exercise...

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; bombiran; bush; drill; iran; iraniannukes; iraq; islam; israel; obama; pentagon; wot
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1 posted on 06/20/2008 3:25:05 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie

If only we had half the intestinal fortitude that the Israelis have.


2 posted on 06/20/2008 3:26:45 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Fennie

Exercises by various nations happen all the time. To conclude it’s offensive is an opinion and nothing more.


3 posted on 06/20/2008 3:27:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Fennie
Unidentified American Officials said...

Exercise APPEARED to be...

4 posted on 06/20/2008 3:30:14 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Fennie
If true, then GOOD!

And thanks NYT for disclosing this.... Unnamed officals.... appeared to be.... pure conjecture.

5 posted on 06/20/2008 3:34:56 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Fennie

I had intended to post that any military action would have to wait for the next Israeli PM, probably Natenyahu. That the incumbent lacks the fortitude for such an action after his debacle in Lebanon. Military maneuvers are sometimes just maneuvers.

Then it occurred to me that with the corruption charges poised to take him down, such a high-stakes gamble might be the only chance he has to ensure a legacy other then a cheaply bought and paid-for politician. The leader who defanged the Iranian nuke program would be a significant figure in Israeli history regardless of lesser problems. It’s an interesting thought.


6 posted on 06/20/2008 3:47:28 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Past Your Eyes
If only we had half the intestinal fortitude that the Israelis have.

We've overflown the Mediterranean many times.

Why is it heroic when Israel does it?

7 posted on 06/20/2008 4:08:04 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Past Your Eyes
If only we had half the intestinal fortitude that the Israelis have.

They may have the guts... but not the firepower or logistical support to fully succeed in conventional airstrikes. Essentially, they will just kick the beehive and hope Iran goes mental... by lashing out at America in Iraq and unleashing their trained monkeys in Lebanon and Gaza.

No matter who starts it, it's a job that must be attended to... and finished.

8 posted on 06/20/2008 4:14:28 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: Fennie
GOD will strike a mighty blow to the evil empire of persia.

LLS

9 posted on 06/20/2008 4:32:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... not communism!!!)
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To: Rummyfan
And thanks NYT for disclosing this...

Tne New York TImes, like the IAEA, is on its knees for Iran.

10 posted on 06/20/2008 5:06:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel. or WOT [War on Terror]

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11 posted on 06/20/2008 5:29:27 AM PDT by SJackson (There are 2 races of people in this world, the decent and the indecent,Victor Frankl, George Foreman)
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To: Fennie

Geez, not quite as scary as it might have been two years ago.

Bluff. If they could maneouvre the US of A to do another war, sure, but Israel will not fight alone.


12 posted on 06/20/2008 5:34:48 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: LibLieSlayer

And what is ‘GOD’s’ role here?

Since you seem privileged to know.


13 posted on 06/20/2008 5:36:42 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Please. The Olmert Govt is weak. Nothing in Israel is going to happen until his crises is over. This may be dragged into the President McCain administration, because Olmert is not going any where until January.


14 posted on 06/20/2008 5:47:28 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Fennie

un-identified officials again. Un-elected too?


15 posted on 06/20/2008 5:49:46 AM PDT by devistate one four (H I V Homophobia Is Vindicated)
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To: Natchez Hawk

And what is ‘GOD’s’ role here?

The LORD had said to Abram, “Leave your country, your people and your father’s household and go to the land I will show you. I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.” - Genesis 12:1-3

I don’t know about you, but if I have a choice to either be blessed by God or be cursed by Him, I’m going to go for the blessings.

James


16 posted on 06/20/2008 5:53:46 AM PDT by 11bravo wolfhoundf ( "Duty is ours; results are God's." John Quincy Adams)
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To: Past Your Eyes
If only we had half the intestinal fortitude that the Israelis have.

For an exercise? They won't actually attack as they need to. President Hussein will inherit this mess and OUR lack of commitment as well as Israel's will come back to haunt us all.
17 posted on 06/20/2008 5:56:36 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Fennie

We can only hope.


18 posted on 06/20/2008 6:17:11 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: 11bravo wolfhoundf

Oh right. And so those in people who moved to Palestine from Russia, Germany, and other places in Europe are the true descendants of “Abram.”

Seems a lot of people are descendants of ‘Abram,’ so before I’ll subscribe to your interpretation of mythology, I’ll have to ask to see a receipt.


19 posted on 06/20/2008 6:19:20 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: Fennie

A nuclear “accident” at the Iranian nuke facility would solve the problem, at least temporarily. One cruise missile, stealth cloaked, a 10 KT kaboom...and plausible deniability.


20 posted on 06/20/2008 6:28:45 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Fennie

1 little, 2 little, 3 little imams....

Don’t forget to root out the hidden 12th one.


21 posted on 06/20/2008 6:30:26 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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To: 11bravo wolfhoundf
...and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.” - Genesis 12:1-3

And we were, when the Jew Jesus Christ sacrificed himself for us.

22 posted on 06/20/2008 6:31:48 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I believe “smite” is the verb most appropriate in this case.


23 posted on 06/20/2008 6:41:36 AM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: Fennie

The grand encore of “operation opera” is -— when the fat lady sings!


24 posted on 06/20/2008 6:47:34 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Past Your Eyes

Do we have the intestinal fortitude to let them do it. The IAF will have to flyover Iraq to target Iran’s nukes. If we allow them to fly unopposed over Iraqi airspace we may as well do the mission ourselves since we’ll be receiving just as much condemnation as Israel. If I were betting I’d say that the President is about to send Condi back to Jerusalem to tell the Israelis to stand down. Whether the Israelis do stand down depends on whether they believe we will actively oppose their efforts.


25 posted on 06/20/2008 6:51:07 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Natchez Hawk
Israelis are GOD’s chosen people... but you knew that.

LLS

26 posted on 06/20/2008 6:52:13 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... not communism!!!)
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To: Sender

Amen!

LLS


27 posted on 06/20/2008 6:56:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... not communism!!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

What? You think maybe they wait until the President is out of office and someone named Hussein is in? This democracy stuff has a funny way of making stuff happen that otherwise might not. Remember when Iran released the hostages? If Carter doesn’t leave and Reagan come in, it never happens and then who knows what might have developed.


28 posted on 06/20/2008 6:58:15 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Diogenesis

Hopefully one of those Israeli fighters is training for a visit to the New York Times offices.


29 posted on 06/20/2008 7:04:47 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: LibLieSlayer

Wrong on both counts, compadre.


30 posted on 06/20/2008 7:21:03 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: Fennie; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SandRat; Jeff Head; devolve; PhilDragoo; potlatch

The Obamination gets elected Potus and it is January 20, 2009.

The Obamination has just said his version of being sworn in as Potus:

““ I do solemnly swear [or affirm] that I will not support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, I will not bear true faith and allegiance to the same: that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and I will not faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me Allah. ”

As the Obamination starts to speak, his Pentagon guy with the football tells Obamination, that shorty after he was sworn in, Israel destroyed the political and military assets of Iran and Syria. The Mossad has killed every al Queda leader in Iran, Iraq, fghanistan, Europe and America.

Also, Israeli leaders on world wide tv are showing and documenting the Obamination’s full Islamofascist connections and most of the rats in Congress. They have demanded the surrender of those members of Congress and the Obamination to Israel and Iraq for abetting the killing of innocent Israelis and Iranians by supporting Islamofascists.

George $oreA$$ and his family members and various phoney non profit leaders are in Israel at this time being tried as War Criminals.


31 posted on 06/20/2008 7:28:57 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Kerry was a Uber Liberal, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas makes Kerry look like Jesse Helms!)
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To: humblegunner

Because they take on proportionally bigger opponents than we do.


32 posted on 06/20/2008 7:31:06 AM PDT by omega4179 (That is not a birth certificate, Kos.)
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To: johnny7

Are you saying that Israel HOPES Iran would take it out on America?


33 posted on 06/20/2008 7:33:47 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (McCain calls it "radical islamic terrorism," the dems don't refer to it at all)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Like taking down Saddam? Yep, no guts here.


34 posted on 06/20/2008 7:34:11 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: omega4179
Because they take on proportionally bigger opponents than we do.

Like who?

35 posted on 06/20/2008 7:34:42 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Fennie

“Report: Israel Held Drill As Preparation For Attack On Iran”

Wouldn’t it have been had if they had not?


36 posted on 06/20/2008 7:41:41 AM PDT by Grunthor (Gonna vote for the candidate that is for drilling for oil, Juan McJerk.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Exercises by various nations happen all the time. To conclude it’s offensive is an opinion and nothing more.”

Today speculators are using this “news” to once again drive up the cost of oil.


37 posted on 06/20/2008 7:42:35 AM PDT by Grunthor (Gonna vote for the candidate that is for drilling for oil, Juan McJerk.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Are you saying that Israel HOPES Iran would take it out on America?

Not exactly. Churchill didn't hope for Pearl Harbor... but he thanked God America was finally in the game.

38 posted on 06/20/2008 7:49:35 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: johnny7
They may have the guts... but not the firepower or logistical support to fully succeed in conventional airstrikes

Correct.

39 posted on 06/20/2008 7:54:19 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: Cinnamon Girl; johnny7
They may have the guts... but not the firepower or logistical support to fully succeed in conventional airstrikes. Essentially, they will just kick the beehive and hope Iran goes mental... by lashing out at America in Iraq and unleashing their trained monkeys in Lebanon and Gaza. No matter who starts it, it's a job that must be attended to... and finished. ..... johnny7

Are you saying that Israel HOPES Iran would take it out on America? ..... Cinnamon Girl

That is exactly what johnny7 is saying and johnny7 has correctly assessed the logistical and operational realities of the situation.

Iran's nuclear facilities are too dispersed, hardened and defended to be knocked out with 100 sorties launched from as far away as Israel. That would be a task requiring a Shock & Awe air campaign over a few weeks that only U.S. air power can accomplish.

During Desert Storm, the coalition air campaign flew a total of 109,876 sorties over the 43-day war, an average of 2,555 sorties per day.

Such a campaign is simply beyond Israel's capabilities. Israel can start the fight but only the U.S. can finish it. Israel knows that.

Don't be too shocked about the Realpolitiks of war. Israel, like Britain in World War II, HOPES to survive and Israel is aware of the military realities.

"To have the United States at our side was to me the greatest joy. Now at this very moment I knew the United States was in the war, up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!...Hitler's fate was sealed. Mussolini's fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder." ...... Winston Churchill writing about his reaction to Pearl Harbor

40 posted on 06/20/2008 8:15:38 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Fennie

Iran’s nuclear facilities are too hardened to be directly rendered ineffective by conventional Israeli airstrikes, even multiple ones... and possiby even by unconvetional (read: bunker-busting) strikes.

But, those facilities prob aren;t self-sustaining. They need fuel, maybe electricity, people, etc. And they also need to be run by a goverment & military with a leadership that is still alive, and one that is not overturned by a people who are begging for the pain to stop.


41 posted on 06/20/2008 8:17:29 AM PDT by sanchmo
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To: sanchmo

Hit their refinery and electric plants too the.


42 posted on 06/20/2008 8:24:14 AM PDT by omega4179 (That is not a birth certificate, Kos.)
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To: johnny7
Churchill didn't hope for Pearl Harbor... but he thanked God America was finally in the game.

You have a much less cynical view of human nature than I do. :-)

See Post 40.

I believe than Churchill probably did hope that something, whatever it needed to be, brought the U.S. into the war on the British side. Britain's very survival depended on it.

43 posted on 06/20/2008 8:26:53 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
"To have the United States at our side was to me the greatest joy. Now at this very moment I knew the United States was in the war, up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!...Hitler's fate was sealed. Mussolini's fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder." ...... Winston Churchill writing about his reaction to Pearl Harbor

Someone's read Churchill's memoirs... ;)

44 posted on 06/20/2008 8:27:32 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: Grunthor

The monthly expiration of the futures contract is also happening, and the lowering of Chinese fuel price support is now seen as driving crude oil up rather than down as it was yesterday. Market analyst appears to be a flexible job description. This happened AND that happened, therefore Cause-Effect and tomorrow the opposite and no one with actual money involved even cares.


45 posted on 06/20/2008 8:35:55 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Polybius
You have a much less cynical view of human nature than I do. :-)

It makes for a better story. ;)

46 posted on 06/20/2008 8:36:18 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: LibLieSlayer

should be were.

As I recall, there is a new covenant


47 posted on 06/20/2008 8:41:16 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Natchez Hawk

In your opinion...which you are most welcome to FRiend.

LLS


48 posted on 06/20/2008 9:00:34 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (REAGANISM... not communism!!!)
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To: Past Your Eyes
If only we had half the intestinal fortitude that the Israelis have.

We are doing nicely thank you both in Iraq and Afghanistan and other terror havens that fall below the radar. Israel could not be more pleased, we are a staunch and reliable Allie ... they owe their existence, in many respects, to the U.S..

49 posted on 06/20/2008 9:16:51 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Natchez Hawk
"If they could maneouvre the US of A to do another war, sure, but Israel will not fight alone."

Please explain the latest foray by Israel into Lebanon, alone.

50 posted on 06/20/2008 9:34:49 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Kerry '08! ************* McCain's Dream Ticket, only the names have been reversed)
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