He is a loser. A loser with serious organ endowment issues.
No MAN worthy of the title does THAT to a defenseless, innocent woman. You are defending his unmanly, cowardly, brutish behavior so that makes you cut from the same cloth.
Posted on 06/28/2008 7:56:42 AM PDT by Impy
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Hey, dippy... He hasn’t been convicted yet. Until he is, I suggest YOU shut up.
Yeah, tough guy, no sissy-boy with a badge has the balls to follow through with you, right, you're so damned bad. He wouldn't dare.
I suggest you check your own delusions. (And do try to keep in mind what you've said from sentence to sentence. That would help a lot.)
Yes, kneejerk hatred of the cops is a mark of liberalism, and you qualify. In spades.
And people wonder why I do not trust police.
18 posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:34:52 AM by Darren McCarty
That is a wise decision, my FRiend.
Cop hater = someone winning an argument with an authoritarian street thug.
Knee jerk defense of Statist authoritarian street dogs, dispensing brutality on the plebes who’d better watch their fracking Ps & Qs if they know what is good for them, is the mark of a Communist or National Socialist, and you qualify in spades.
No, dippy, a cop-hater is someone who hates cops. That's you. Next time you need one, have the decency to tell him what you think of him before you accept his assistance.
And we all know what happens when they come to help. We've seen the evidence right here.
George Orwell wrote a lot about your ilk and the kind of police state you advocate. "Though not yet full-grown, they were huge dogs, and as fierce-looking as wolves. They kept close to Napoleon. It was noticed that they wagged their tails to him in the same way as the other dogs had been used to do to Mr. Jones. Four young porkers in the front row uttered shrill squeals of disapproval, and all four of them sprang to their feet and began speaking at once. But suddenly the dogs sitting round Napoleon let out deep, menacing growls, and the pigs fell silent and sat down again."
No simian, I don't hate cops. I don't know any! The street thugs I see daily bear no resemblance to the police of my youth.
There are very few police officers in this country anymore. They are all adult adolescents, stuck in a state of arrested development, with authoritarian complexes, too much testosterone, and in perpetual "do as your told" mode. They are children with body armor, black uniforms, shaved heads, and pimped out Dodge Chargers just looking for trouble.
Hooligans with a gun and a badge.
And the fact that you defend them in the execution of their crimes tells me you are just one of them. One of the very self same that Orwell warned us all about. Anyone who could defend what that animal did to that poor woman is deranged...or an incurable sadist with a lust for power.
Why not just walk away. Go rent a copy of "Clockwork Orange" and enjoy yourself.
So you are saying there is no right to form an opinion / express an opinion freedom on this subject until after the cop gets convicted?
In any event I would say that if one of was caught doing that it would pretty much be an instant no-questions conviction. Why doesn't the same rule apply to the police officer in this video?No, dippy, a cop-hater is someone who hates cops. That's you. Next time you need one, have the decency to tell him what you think of him before you accept his assistance.
The problem is they sometimes show up even if you didn't call them. Then they don't exactly go away if you tell them they are not wanted.
I think the police officer's actions show a certain mindset. The us (police) vs them (citizens) mindset. A good mindset for the police to have in a police state, but not in a free society.
At least the video is out, and the case will be going to trial, and the woman may get some or all of her $11.3 Million.
So you are saying there is no right to form an opinion / express an opinion / freedom of speech on this subject until after the cop gets convicted?
In any event I would say that if one of was caught doing that it would pretty much be an instant no-questions conviction. Why doesn't the same rule apply to the police officer in this video?
No, dippy, a cop-hater is someone who hates cops. That's you. Next time you need one, have the decency to tell him what you think of him before you accept his assistance.
The problem is they sometimes show up even if you didn't need them / call them / want them. Then they don't exactly go away if you tell them they are not wanted.
As for me, if I thought I was dealing with people / police officers who I talk to as one human being to another, and whom I could trust, instead of someone who was just looking for a reason to get physical and/or arrest me for saying / doing something / anything wrong, we could have an open and honest communication.
But since unfortunately that seems to be out the window, it is probably best to follow the advice of people such as the ACLU when it comes to police / citizen interactions:
1. What you say to the police is always important. What you say can be used against you, and it can give the police an excuse to arrest you, especially if you badmouth a police officer.
2. You must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. Otherwise, you don't have to answer any questions if you are detained or arrested, with one important exception. The police may ask for your name if you have been properly detained, and you can be arrested in some states for refusing to give it. If you reasonably fear that your name is incriminating, you can claim the right to remain silent, which may be a defense in case you are arrested anyway.
3. You do not have to consent to any search of yourself, your car or your house. If you DO consent to a search, it can affect your rights later in court. If the police say they have a search warrant, ASK TO SEE IT.
4. Do not interfere with, or obstruct the police, as you you can be arrested for it.
Remember:
Think carefully about your words, movement, body language, and emotions.
Do not get into an argument with the police.
Anything you say or do can be used against you.
Keep your hands where the police can see them.
Do not run. Do not touch any police officer.
Do not resist even if you believe you are innocent.
Do not complain on the scene or tell the police they are wrong or that you are going to file a complaint.
Do not make any statements regarding the incident.
Ask for a lawyer immediately upon your arrest.
Remember officer badge & patrol car numbers.
Write down everything you remember ASAP.
Try to find witnesses & their names & phone numbers.
If you are injured, take photographs of the injuries as soon as possible, but make sure you seek medical attention first.
I think the police officer's actions show a certain mindset. The us (police) vs them (citizens) mindset. A good mindset for the police to have in a police state, but not in a free society.
At least the video is out, and the case will be going to trial, and the woman may get some or all of her $11.3 Million.
Right, you don't hate the cops. What a L-O-S-E-R.
Interesting that you would ask me that when it was "rawhide" who first told me to shut up. Why didn't you ask him? I guess only my opinion should be suppressed?
Hey, you seem reasonable, SG... I love freedom of speech, but when a bunch of immature poo-butts who are probably still living in their mommies' basements begin calling me names and telling me to shut up, and calling the officer in question names and accusing him of all kinds of terrible things, hinting at threats toward him and other LEOs... Well, who's going to react favorably to that?
They need to back off and consider what they're saying. The officer's lawyer has made some good points. Anyone who watches that video dispassionately has to see some of the same things I saw... She was resisting. I think some degree of force was necessary but things may have gotten a little out of hand, didn't go exactly as the officer intended... Let's let this go to trial and see what happens. It wouldn't surprise me if he's exonerated.
He is a loser. A loser with serious organ endowment issues.
No MAN worthy of the title does THAT to a defenseless, innocent woman. You are defending his unmanly, cowardly, brutish behavior so that makes you cut from the same cloth.
I sure don't want your opinion suppressed. Your pathological spewings lend our position tons of validation. With friends like you, your street thug buds don't need any enemies.
There is an old saying about how it is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Guess they kinda skipped over that one in your household huh?
Reference bump!
Just wow...
She didn’t look like she did anything to deserve the officer’s actions to me. Agitated and upset maybe because of what happened to her niece, but not aggressive and not threatening. I’m not sure where you see the PITA behavior at worst her body language seemed to say “please don’t push me around”, but ultimately it shouldn’t matter.
Police have to deal with people in emotionally charged situations all the time and should be prepared in training and temperament to calm people like this woman down without violence. The cop lost his cool and acted completely out of proportion to the situation and should lose his job before he loses his temper again.
There was another officer that looked like he was just starting to intervene between them when the first maneuvered around her and picked her up. It is a shame he wasn’t a couple seconds faster or things might not have gotten so out of control.
From the following article: http://lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008806280348
When FBI agents began questioning Yonkers police officers about the alleged beating a fellow cop gave a woman at a restaurant, the blue wall of silence crumbled.
Agents asked about the images from a surveillance videotape that appeared to show Officer Wayne Simoes brutally slamming Irma Marquez facedown to the ground.
"Several officers stated that, based on their training and experience, Simoes' use of force against Marquez was unreasonable and excessive," FBI Agent Kristina Norris wrote in a criminal complaint against Simoes filed in U.S. District Court in White Plains.
You seem to view this through a pair of race colored glassed based on her name.
I think the fact that he pinned her arms is the part about this that seems the most brutal. Opposite to your view, my impression is he did it very deliberately as he threw her down because he didn’t want her offering him any resistance.
Thanks for the link. It reinforces my thinking that the other cops didn’t agree with what he was doing.
“Yeah, tough guy, no sissy-boy with a badge has the balls to follow through with you, right, you’re so damned bad. He wouldn’t dare.”
Facts are facts, son. So far every bully cop who started in with me unprovoked, on the job or off,has backed down when his efforts bore fruit. Every single one. The key word in all of this is UNPROVOKED. I wouldn’t particularly take it amiss if someone I snotted off to or was otherwise hostile to resented it.I also have seen others back down a formerly sneering swaggering tough-guy-with-a-badge by simply stepping up to them. Lack of balls is a REQUIREMENT for such immature and vicious amd stupid bullying under color of authority. No one who IS a Man would bother doing it.
Now: I quoted you above. SHOW ME WHERE I WROTE WHAT YOU IDIOTCALLY (or is it delusionally?) ATTRIBUTED TO ME!!!
It’s sad to see but some here on FR are blindly pro-cop no matter what. I guess to support “law and order” you must also support any miscreant who happens to have a badge.
Here's hoping you learn the same lesson soon, and in the same way, as you're obviously too dense to learn from someone else's painful example.
Until then it's been fun schooling you, dippy.
Oh, now it's because his efforts bore fruit and not because he lacked the balls to continue. Your delusions are amazing.
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LibWhacker says: "I think it's great. Looks like she learned a valuable lesson" |
Yeah, I really hate that too. That's why some of the cops here on FR are mad at me, because I won't support them "no matter what" and have been quite vocal in my criticism of cops when I thought it was warranted.
But I also try to be meticulously fair and impartial about it and am glad to give them a break when they deserve it.
What's really sad is to see what purports to be a full-grown man hating cops for 30 years just because one of them told him back then to move along and stop using the mall as his own personal skateboarding park, lol. That's where half these Losers with a capital 'L' are coming from.
You're scum. The sewer sludge of humanity.
"No, pinhead, I have never needed a cop. Cops have never been there when I or one of my own needed one, they are only around later to often make a bigger mess of things... There are very few police officers in this country anymore. They are all adult adolescents, stuck in a state of arrested development, with authoritarian complexes, too much testosterone, and in perpetual "do as your told" mode. They are children with body armor, black uniforms, shaved heads, and pimped out Dodge Chargers just looking for trouble. Hooligans with a gun and a badge. --NucSubs, a dyed-in-the-wool cop-haterThe outrageous thing is that the cops are there for him EVERYDAY and EVERY MINUTE of his sad, pathetic life, and he doesn't have the basic human decency to feel in the least bit grateful for it or acknowledge his indebtedness to them. What a pathetic POS.
Ok, I didn't notice that the first time, but I found it at post 47. Sorry about that.
No body should be telling anyone else here to shut up. For one it's childish. For another, it's almost always better to just let the person go on talking whatever their line is for all the world to see and decide.
I for one certainly disagree with your view of the officer's body slam of the woman, as apparently do others here, and I think that is where you're getting a lot of heat from.
I think we're both in agreement that this should go to trial, but we have different views on how this will turn out.
Apparently the woman afterwards was arrested and charged with "obstruction of governmental administration". Seems like a convenient CYA move on the part of the police. She was cleared.
If the police officer was surprised that his body slam of the woman didn't go exactly as he intended, well, just wait until this goes to the jury at trail...
The only pathetic, POS, sewage plant influent who lacks common decency on this thread is you. I bet I know what you polish your jackboots with.
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