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Russian Scientists In Bid To Solve Tunguska Event
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7-2-2008 | Adrian Blomfield

Posted on 07/01/2008 8:55:14 PM PDT by blam

Russian scientists in bid to solve Tunguska Event

Last Updated: 1:18AM BST 02/07/2008

Russian scientists will this week attempt to solve the mystery of a giant explosion 100 years ago that turned night to day across western Europe and flattened a large swathe of Siberia.

Trees lay strewn across the Siberian countryside, in 1953, 45 years after an 'unexplained explosion' near Tunguska, Russia

A century after reindeer herdsmen saw a column of light that shone with the intensity of the Sun moving across the Siberian dawn sky, the Tunguska Event remains one of the modern era's most abiding scientific riddles.

From the X-Files to Indiana Jones, the makers of films and television programmes have ensured that Tunguska remains a byword for conspiracy in the imagination of science fiction buffs.

But even among serious scientists the cause of the explosion remains an enigma, a fact that has allowed the theories to multiply over the years.

The symposium in Russia has drawn together the proponents of some of the most outlandish, perhaps none more so than Yuri Lavbin.

The head of the Tunguska Space Phenomenon Fund has long blamed extraterrestrials for the explosion and in 2004 claimed to have discovered wreckage from their spacecraft.

What the aliens were up to divides Mr Lavbin's followers. The more orthodox suggest they were coming to Earth's rescue by shooting down a meteorite that would have caused far more damage if it had struck the planet.

Others maintain it was a monumental mix-up after aliens on a planet orbiting the star 61-Sygni mistakenly assumed that the 1883 eruption on Krakatoa was an attempt by earthlings to communicate with them.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: callingartbell; catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; impact; russia; russian; scientists; siberia; tunguska; yurilavbin

1 posted on 07/01/2008 8:55:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG and Catastrophism Ping.


2 posted on 07/01/2008 8:56:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

***”The more orthodox suggest they were coming to Earth’s rescue by shooting down a meteorite that would have caused far more damage if it had struck the planet.”***

Total rubbish!! .....it was due to global warming.


3 posted on 07/01/2008 9:05:54 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

no at that point in history it was the population explosion followed by an early baby boom


4 posted on 07/01/2008 9:10:18 PM PDT by woofie
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To: blam

Lewis Tully ping.


5 posted on 07/01/2008 9:10:45 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (Truth: The anti-drug war.)
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To: blam

I am seriously considering having this topic be my Master Thesis for Geology. I currently hold to the belief of an exploding rocky asteroid.


6 posted on 07/01/2008 9:22:21 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: LukeL

Will you be willing and able to travel to Siberia? Or will you do the research from here?


7 posted on 07/01/2008 9:32:35 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: ETL

Don’t know how it will work, I would actually love to Eastern Russia, but as this would be 5 or so years from now, who knows how the political climate will be. I can easily see the Iron Curtain coming up again. If the research can be done here that would be great.


8 posted on 07/01/2008 9:47:16 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: blam
If anybody has read about Tesla, this will be the logical result.
Some attending the conference blamed Nikola Tesla, the eccentric American scientist who said he had developed a death ray – a particle beam weapon capable of moving at the speed of light. They claimed he had been testing it.

9 posted on 07/01/2008 9:55:52 PM PDT by mtngrandpa
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To: blam

An explosive meteorite sounds good, and the possibility that aliens bent on mischief were responsible is certainly mind blowing, but for sheer wow factor I prefer to believe that Tesla did it.

10 posted on 07/01/2008 10:01:20 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: LukeL
I currently hold to the belief of an exploding rocky asteroid.

But the death ray and angry thunder god Ogdy are so much cooler. I rather do my degree on a death ray, personally.

11 posted on 07/01/2008 10:02:11 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: mtngrandpa
OKAY....... I'm not up on my history, but is is said that this was Tesla's last hurrah from his Wardenclyfe lab. There were explorers in the region of the North Pole and he wanted to show the American govt what his particle beam/death ray could do so he fired it to strike at or near the pole so he would have the explorers as witnesses. Not fully understanding his new machine, he over shot the pole and hit Tunguska. Legend or not, I really like that story.

Actually, a Russian scientist has already figured out that the Tunguska explosion was caused by a meteorite. Using matchsticks to replicate trees, he was able to show how fast it was moving, what angle it entered the atmosphere at, and what force it exploded with. Also, someone drained the swamp surrounding the area, dug into the crater and found pieces of the meteorite.

(But Mulder still got infected by the virus it was carrying, though, like the others who were infected, he didn't lose his arm.)

12 posted on 07/01/2008 10:09:56 PM PDT by HusbandMan
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To: blam

Well...the story goes that God cast Satan out of Heaven and INTO the Earth—is that where he hit; after all the Biblical text suggest he was a being of light...? (Only half serious here, but that makes as much sense as some other explanations.)


13 posted on 07/01/2008 10:16:11 PM PDT by pankot
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To: blam

The mystery was solved long ago by.... The Men In Black!


14 posted on 07/01/2008 10:16:46 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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Thanks blam. And look everybody! Some a-hole put "callingartbell" into the keywords.
 
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15 posted on 07/01/2008 10:49:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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16 posted on 07/01/2008 10:50:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: LukeL

Why not something else?

Have you read “The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes”, written by Firestone, West, and Warwick-Smith?

Their book presents evidence concerning a supernova (Geminga, in the Gemini constellation) that occurred 40,000 years ago, and how its blast has effected our planet ever since. The cover is tacky but hey, what matters is inside. The reviews on Amazon.com are consistently positive but beware! This is a science book with lots of graphs and technical data presented.


17 posted on 07/01/2008 11:37:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SatinDoll
I guess this would be along with the idea of a gamma ray burst. These theories are very interesting, but do have some problems with them. I often feel for many of these mass extinctions and strange events that a perfect storm of many unrelated events, or a sequence of events must occur.

Also speaking of this, according to some astronomers the Sun is overdue for a massive solar storm which could act like a temporary EMP type burst and cause massive blackouts and even loss of satellites and telecommunications.

18 posted on 07/01/2008 11:44:27 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: blam

Here’s a puzzler for ya - I was at a meeting a few days ago and Dr. Carl Skinner stated that their investigation of California arboreal history has shown that in 1829, there is not one area of California that did not show that trees had burned. There are even indications it might go up into California. What was that all about?


19 posted on 07/02/2008 12:09:36 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2

Sorry - that is go up into Oregon.


20 posted on 07/02/2008 12:10:49 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: LukeL

Gamma ray burst 40,000 years ago? Yes, but that wasn’t the end of it.

The matter blown off by the supernova arrived here about 13,000 years ago, creating a crater on the bottom of Hudson’s Bay, a crater on the bottom of Lake Superior, and literally thousands of Carolina Bays all around the country. Oh, and the North American ice pack (over Canada) was pretty much blown to smitherines.

The guys who wrote this book present very specific evidence, especially the supporting data of a spike in the amount of iridium and fullerenes in the soil at the 13,000 years ago level, about when mammoths and Clovis man disappeared.

Everyone ridiculed Harlan Bretz when he claimed to have found proof of catastrophic flooding in eastern Washington State. It was decades before his findings were accepted.

Look at the scientific evidence before you scoff.


21 posted on 07/02/2008 12:11:33 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: TheWasteLand

Thunder God Ogdy! Why didn’t I name my son after him?


22 posted on 07/02/2008 2:24:04 AM PDT by Kiss Me Hardy
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To: marsh2
"Here’s a puzzler for ya - I was at a meeting a few days ago and Dr. Carl Skinner stated that their investigation of California arboreal history has shown that in 1829, there is not one area of California that did not show that trees had burned. There are even indications it might go up into Oregon. What was that all about?

Evidence Of Tunguska-Type Impacts Over The Pacific Basin Around The Year 1178 AD

23 posted on 07/02/2008 7:39:02 AM PDT by blam
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To: LukeL

I have a great article on this event, the possibilities, and let me know if you want me to send it to you.


24 posted on 07/02/2008 7:50:00 AM PDT by Harrius Magnus (I am the town square.)
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To: HusbandMan

Someone should ask Cigarette Smoking Man.


25 posted on 07/02/2008 12:46:55 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: SatinDoll

Also this book:http://www.amazon.com/Cataclysm-Compelling-Evidence-Cosmic-Catastrophe/dp/1879181428/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215068709&sr=1-1
Supposes the same supernova.


26 posted on 07/03/2008 12:07:03 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: colorado tanker

Can’t do that now. He got nailed by rockets fired by these mysterious black helicopters...


27 posted on 08/09/2008 10:21:56 PM PDT by Redcitizen (I need ammunition like a day needs sunshine. =))
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