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Residents Angered by Group's Distribution of Korans
FOX News ^ | July 2, 2008

Posted on 07/02/2008 10:57:09 AM PDT by bamahead

Some Houston residents are upset after Korans were left on the doorsteps of hundreds of homes in their neighborhood as part of a campaign to educate people about Islam.

Residents of Braes Timbers in southwest Houston began finding the holy books two weeks ago, MyFOXHouston.com reported. The Korans came with a note saying they had been left by the Book of Signs Foundation, which claims to have distributed 30,000 free copies of the texts to residents throughout the city.


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KEYWORDS: bobj; churchandstate; firstamendment; freedomofreligion; freepaper; islam; itsareligionofpeace; junkmail; koran; nokamalrightalk; rightalknorquist
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To: Lurker

And how do you feel about our Iraqi allies?


101 posted on 07/03/2008 2:33:37 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Biggirl

Correcting myself, it should be “done”.


102 posted on 07/03/2008 6:05:36 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: ibtheman

...Good way to get rid of a handbook of the Devil.


103 posted on 07/03/2008 6:06:59 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: Bob J

Bob, the Koran, the “infallible, perfect revelation of Allah”

commands “believers” to

conduct war with (kill) the unbelievers (YOU) until all are converted or pay the jizya (enslaved).

Those who do not follow this command are apostate and subject to death themselves.

Do you understand this?
Three choices:
Conversion
Enslavement
Death


104 posted on 07/03/2008 6:11:30 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Lurker

The “Peace of Islam” is another deception.

The “Peace of Islam” comes when all the world is subject to the Sharia Law.


105 posted on 07/03/2008 6:12:31 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Bob J
And how do you feel about our Iraqi allies?

They're doing what Osama Bin Laden calls "backing the strong horse."

It's nothing more than that.

L

106 posted on 07/03/2008 6:17:40 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Bob J

There is a difference. Our God is bigger than the book He wrote. While I would not like to see Bibles desecrated, doing so would harm neither my God nor my faith, and I would be under no compunction to do violence to the person who desecrated the Bible.

In fact, my religion would tell me to pray for the individual who did so, not hunt him down and kill him. The Bible is indeed holy to me, but I do not worship it.


107 posted on 07/03/2008 6:33:39 AM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: Lurker

Then you disagree with the efforts of our military in Iraq?


108 posted on 07/03/2008 10:58:40 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: MrB

You can’t reason people out of a position that they didn’t use reason to get into in the first plac.


109 posted on 07/03/2008 10:59:45 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Mom MD

Do you agree the Old Testament supports the stoning of prostitutes?


110 posted on 07/03/2008 11:01:05 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Mom MD

Or how about when David and other early Jewish Kings swept through Canaan and other areas attacking every town and village, killing all the people including women, children and the elderly, so they could establish the Jewish nation. The Bible says they were commanded to do this by God.


111 posted on 07/03/2008 11:03:52 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; Aiko; ...
I seem to recall some FReepers getting the vapors when Christian missionaries did the same thing in Israel and somebody made a bonfire out of the giveaway tracts.

FReepMail to be added or removed from this pro-Israel/Judaic/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

112 posted on 07/03/2008 11:06:22 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Bob J

No, the Old Testament

RECORDS

the stoning of prostitutes.

Next question?


113 posted on 07/03/2008 11:17:22 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Bob J

Man, do you really need some IN CONTEXT biblical study.

Read some Norman Geisler, he answers your uninformed questions rather handily.


114 posted on 07/03/2008 11:18:29 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Bob J
Or how about when David and other early Jewish Kings swept through Canaan and other areas attacking every town and village, killing all the people including women, children and the elderly, so they could establish the Jewish nation. The Bible says they were commanded to do this by God.

And they were, and they did. I don't question what The Lord My God told His people to do. I'm just glad they did it. Through them came Christ, and through Christ the opportunity for the whole world to know of the Lord.

115 posted on 07/03/2008 11:19:24 AM PDT by EarthBound (Ex Deo,gratia. Ex astris,scientia (Who the hell do I vote for now?))
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To: Alouette

Yes, yes! But those were the Infidels so-called “bibles”, not the Holy Koran of peaceful Islam as transmitted to the Profit MoeHamEd (piss be upon him) while he was marrying an eight year old girl, molesting the odd camel and killing thousands of unbelievers whilst riding a magic flying unicorn! Don’t you see the difference?

BTW, where’s your burqa, you brazen hussy?!! /sarc


116 posted on 07/03/2008 11:19:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: Bob J
"Or how about when David and other early Jewish Kings swept through Canaan and other areas attacking every town and village, killing all the people including women, children and the elderly, so they could establish the Jewish nation. The Bible says they were commanded to do this by God."

Did you perhaps mean "Joshua" not David? If God created everything, and He tells you to destroy something in His creation, isn't that His right?

117 posted on 07/03/2008 11:22:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: Bob J
Then you disagree with the efforts of our military in Iraq?

I disagree with the way it's being done. We're not being nearly agressive enough.

For every American soldier who is killed, one Iraqi town or city should cease to exist.

Call it the "Lemay Option". Look into how German towns were handled AFTER the German Army surrendered in 1945 and the Werewolves continued their 'resistance'.

L

118 posted on 07/03/2008 12:32:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Red Badger

FREE PIG TOILET PAPER!!!!!!!


119 posted on 07/03/2008 12:49:53 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: bamahead

Smear it in bacon fat and give it back.


121 posted on 07/03/2008 1:06:47 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Bob J

“this site as hate filled and FReepers as bigots.”

Do you even know the definition of the word “bigot”??

Hating a murdering, child-molesting, cult is not being a bigot. Hating murder is a good thing. Hating child-molesters is a good thing. Hating women beaters is a good thing. Hating someone who wants you dead because you refuse to take part in their cult is a good thing.

You can support that murdering cult all you want but don’t dare tell the rest of us we must submit to your way of thinking. This is America, not the ignorant and illiterate Middle East.


122 posted on 07/03/2008 1:14:06 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: bamahead

So . . . uhhhh . . . doing some . . .

interesting things . . . as a group, with clown masks . . . and maybe all the family dogs . . . with some pages from some books . . . could get interesting quick.


123 posted on 07/03/2008 2:44:47 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Alouette

Burning is inexcuseable (haven’t read the thread, won’t be surprised if it’s advocated), but for those who advocate the unwanted distribution of the New Testament, consistancy requires support for distribution of the Koran


124 posted on 07/03/2008 3:25:35 PM PDT by SJackson (If we win Iowa, then we can move to the world as it should be, Michelle O)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If God created everything, and He tells you to destroy something in His creation, isn't that His right?

So then the real problem with Muslim extremists is not with their methods, but rather that they aren't getting their orders from the right Source?

125 posted on 07/03/2008 4:01:27 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: SJackson
consistancy requires support for distribution of the Koran

Thus far that's what I've read on this thread. Plenty of creative ideas for using the Korans, but no one suggesting that we prohibit their distribution.

126 posted on 07/03/2008 4:02:50 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"This is a very peaceful way of conveying a message."

As opposed to unpeaceful ways? Odd statement.


It's a very telling statement.

This is a very peaceful way for us to convey a message. There are other ways, less peaceful, we can use to get that message out too.

This was a threat.
127 posted on 07/03/2008 4:06:11 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: Tamar1973

I was thinking the same thing. Just leaving them on doorsteps is disrespectful. I have a hard time believeing that muslim did that.

This is why it makes people nervos, Islamists believe that the book actually becomes allah...it has a dual identity. So, when it is desecrated, they have the right to kill the desecrator...actually, the duty to do so.

When people throw them away, will this be used as an excuse for violence? They killed people over a cartoon, what about a koran dumped in the trash can?


128 posted on 07/03/2008 5:04:13 PM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: Mom MD

That’s the difference.

Have you ever read the story of Sundar Singh? His burning the Bible page by page, actually led to his conversion! The purpose of the Bible is to lead us to Jesus Christ. The Bible doesn’t save us. Church doesn’t save us...only Jesus Christ can save us.

I remember I had to memorise this saying as a kid:

“I am my neighbor’s Bible, He reads me when we meet;
Today he reads me in my home, Tomorrow in the street.
He may be relative or friend, Or slight acquaintance be;
He may not even know my name, Yet he is reading me.”

Personally, I could never insult my Lord and all He has done for me, by keeping this book, or reading it. I think that I might walk it down to their headquarters, thank them for the gift, give it back, and explain this fact to them as to why I could not keep the book.

What a great witnessing opportunity for Christians! They are coming right to our doors! We don’t need to travel overseas to be a missionary.


129 posted on 07/03/2008 5:38:33 PM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: MrB

No, the Bible clearly calls for stoning sinners. Don’t you see the similarity of this question to the religious leaders bringing the adulteress to Jesus, and asking him if she should be stoned?!

What was it Jesus said, I don’t have the exact quote, but he did tell us that what happened to him, would happen to those that followed him! Wow, this is a clear proof that his words are true.

Was God harsh? Yes. He tells us clearly to fear Him!

But, think about why this happened in the old Testament, and why we do not do these things now. In the old Testament, there was no possibility of regenerate souls. People lost in sin, were not going to change in this life. They couldn’t, because Jesus Christ had not risen from the dead. Regeneration was not possible yet, so God ordered that the wickedness be wiped out; like cutting out cancer.It was the only way at the time.

We do not do this now, because the Holy Spirit is alive in the world and made avalible to everyone through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Now, where there is life, there is hope of salvation, from our old sinful nature. Through Jesus Christ our heart and souls can be made new again. Washed clean by the blood of Christ, and made into a new person!

I have to tell you something exciting for me. I have been praying about this question for some time now. James 1:5 tells us that God will give us wisdom that we lack, so I knew I would have an answer to this question of harsh killing in the Old Testament. Honestly, this bothered me greatly. I have a daughter who is a mentally ill drug addict. She does many vile things. Every manner of sin described in the Book! The old Testament would have me take her into the street and stone her myself! I just could not reconsile this in my heart, with a Loving God, who had forgiven so much in me.

I didn’t know the answer until I started to type this, right now!


130 posted on 07/03/2008 5:57:05 PM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

And the question must be asked, “what is the message?”


131 posted on 07/03/2008 6:12:05 PM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: tuckrdout

The message is simple, accept mohammedanism or the next time we leave something you won’t like it.

Otherwise they wouldn’t have been sneaking around and then disappearing without a word. Every religious groups I’ve had interactions with, jehovas witnesses, Jews, Catholics, wiccans who chose to share their beliefs did it face to face and in the open.

Not like gangsters leaving a warning to pay protection or get your legs broken.


132 posted on 07/03/2008 6:37:58 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: tuckrdout

Also, in the OT times, there were populations that were entirely wicked. God ordered their destruction to keep the Jewish bloodlines separate in order that Christ could be born.
God did not destroy a society until it was thoroughly evil and beyond hope. Remember the Israelites wandered in the desert for 40 more years in part because of their sin, but also because the wickedness in the lands they were to conquer was not complete yet

God states he takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked, but wants all to be saved.


133 posted on 07/03/2008 6:39:19 PM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: Mom MD

Hate to nitpick, but I can not help myself....the fact is that Jesus’ bloodline is not entirely Jewish. Ruth was a moabite. She married Boaz, who happened to be the son of Rahab the (former) prostitute, who had lived in Jerico and wasn’t Jewish either....We know that Boaz and Ruth were the great grandparents of King David.

God can take our mistakes and make something beautiful out of them. His line shows this. It shows his mercy and his love, and his forgiveness.


134 posted on 07/03/2008 7:53:25 PM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: EarthBound

“I don’t question what The Lord My God told His people to do. I’m just glad they did it”

And militant islamics are doing what they believe God told them to do.

And the irony is completely lost on you.


135 posted on 07/03/2008 10:28:43 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If God created everything, and He tells you to destroy something in His creation, isn’t that His right?’

And this is how islamics justify what they do.

And the irony rolls on...


136 posted on 07/03/2008 10:30:42 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Lurker

If you hold muslims, all muslims, in such low regard, then you must four square against American boys and girls dying in that country.


137 posted on 07/03/2008 10:32:00 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Bob J
you hold muslims, all muslims, in such low regard, then you must four square against American boys and girls dying in that country

Such a goofy remark doesn't even merit a response.

L

138 posted on 07/03/2008 10:34:11 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: CodeToad

“Hating a murdering, child-molesting, cult is not being a bigot. Hating murder is a good thing. Hating child-molesters is a good thing. Hating women beaters is a good thing. Hating someone who wants you dead because you refuse to take part in their cult is a good thing.”

“This is America, not the ignorant and illiterate Middle East.”

All evidence to the contrary.


139 posted on 07/03/2008 10:34:11 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Lurker

“Such a goofy remark doesn’t even merit a response.”

Because you don’t have one. You’re completely stumped in your inconsistency.


140 posted on 07/03/2008 10:36:10 PM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Bob J; Lurker

As a female, I’d’ have to say that, yes, Bob, pretty much every muslim wants to enslave me. When I’d refuse to veil, they’d want to kill me.


141 posted on 07/03/2008 11:42:24 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: SJackson

The only reason not to burn whatever is because of a burn ban.

Books are not that sacred. The problem with “book burning” is the attempt to suppress information that others might seek. There’s no reason for me not to throw a copy of a book that I find distasteful in the trash or on the fire, if I own that copy.

We had a book of mormon that we used for some study or the other over the years. I finally threw it out because I just couldn’t bear to have in on the shelf. This, in a house with wall-to-wall books and several books on the other “Gospels,” that we also used for study.


142 posted on 07/03/2008 11:50:46 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: F15Eagle
BLACKS MENTIONED IN THE KORAN Whoever says Muhammad was black must be killed…(Ash‑Shifa, Tr. Aisha Abdarrahman, 2004) Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed. (ibid, p.375) In one Hadith, Mohammed referred to Blacks as Raisn Heads (Sahih Al Bukhary vol. 1, no. 662 and vol. 9, no. 256), and as pug nosed slaves in Sahih Moslem vol. 9 pages 46 and 47. Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73
143 posted on 07/03/2008 11:59:14 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: CodeToad

BRAVO!!!!!


144 posted on 07/04/2008 12:00:49 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: Bob J
If you hold muslims, all muslims, in such low regard, then you must four square against American boys and girls dying in that country.

I'm pretty much against American service persons dying ANYWHERE, Bob.

Are you in favor of them dying?

(See how that works?)

Actually I'm completely in favor of them being anywhere where there are lots of muzzies to whack.

L

145 posted on 07/04/2008 6:35:27 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Bob J

“All evidence to the contrary.”

You are free to leave and go to one of those Muslim countries. Coming here to a pro-American website and running this country down using lies and propaganda is nothing but another cowardly attack just as the Muslims always use.


146 posted on 07/04/2008 9:14:09 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Lurker

“Actually I’m completely in favor of them being anywhere where there are lots of muzzies to whack.”

LOL! and ditto! Every dead muzzie means one less possibility of a child being used as a suicide bomber, one less woman stoned to death for having been raped, one less innocent life lost to their cowardly attacks, etc., etc., etc.


147 posted on 07/04/2008 9:16:10 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: patriot08

Thanks. It is about time we tell these cult loving idiots to take a hike!


148 posted on 07/04/2008 9:17:08 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: hocndoc

Do you actually know any muslims? I do and can assure you that they neither want to enslave you nor kill you for not wearing a veil.

Just like many Christians they understand a lot of what was written 1500 years ago has to be interpreted in a modern light. Just like some Christians, they have their fundementalists who believe every word in their Holy Book must be taken literally even if that means killing.

Christianity, after a similar long period of torturing and killing pagans, witches and non-believers who would not convert, went through an agonizing reappraisal and dragged themselves into 20th century thinking and values.

Islam is going through that now (better late then never I guess). We cannot go to war with 1 billion people, nor should we try. We should however, do what we can to help hasten their own reappraisal by supporting the reformers and opposing the hardliners.

I find it pretty funny that Christians who demand respect for their religion and beliefs seem to be the first to denigrate others. Those who do this are neither being Christian nor following Christ’s teachings who said the 11 th commandment was to love others as you love yourself.

IMO that kind of hypocrisy will get you a one way ticket to hell no matter how holy or devout one thinks they are.


149 posted on 07/04/2008 11:41:31 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: Lurker

You’re avoiding the question because you don’t have an answer that won’t make you look like a hypocrite.

You cannot hold these opinions of muslims and islam that you’ve demonstrated here and also support our military action in Iraq to defend and assist them.

So let’s make it as easy and simple for you as possible.

Knowing that you detest and hate ALL muslims and islam, do you then also object to the US being in Iraq to help the Iraqi muslim people?


150 posted on 07/04/2008 11:45:50 AM PDT by Bob J ("For every 1000 men hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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