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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: peeps36

I hate to say this, but the mentality of the liberals today...

They will riot if Hillary gets the nomination

they will riot if he loses the election

they will riot if he WINS the election

they will riot on innauguration day

and they will riot when Police crack down on the rioters

the transition from 2008 to 2009 will be riots.

count on it.

601 posted on 07/04/2008 3:31:21 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: AuntB
I would rather not lose this next election at all.

However, the law is the law unless a person is a liberal.

Laws are written by liberal legislators to keep conservatives in line.

Liberals are above the law.

It's a Dan Rather moment thing don't cha know.

602 posted on 07/04/2008 3:37:43 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMATIZATION - A Liberals Religion ABORTION - The ultimate form of Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: hollister23
And did Hussein legally change his name birth name in college from Barry Soetoro to B Hussein Obama? If so, why? Did he have some kind of conversion that made him want to suddenly go by his muslim name? And is it true that shortly after legally changing his name while in college, he traveled to Karachi, Pakistan for 3 weeks? How old was he? Early 20's? Why is dude traveling to Pakistan after changing his name, which reflected his muslim heritage? Muhammed Ali and Kareem Abdul Jabar both changed their names to reflect their new found muslim religion.

I think that *this* is the crux of the matter. I don't doubt that he was born in Hawaii. I think that his BC could validate the "Obama is a Muslim" arguments that he's trying so hard to beat back. There goes the Jewish vote along with a lot of 9-11 traumatized Americans.

603 posted on 07/04/2008 3:38:35 AM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: Gondring
Please send me the link and/or screen shot you have of that. How long did they leave it up?

Huh? It is on the their smears page.

604 posted on 07/04/2008 3:48:30 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: chaosagent

The law you are quoting applies only to births OUTSIDE THE USA! Are you saying that he was born outside the USA?

605 posted on 07/04/2008 3:48:57 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: OldEagle


606 posted on 07/04/2008 4:02:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: David
You have made several interesting posts.. but provide no links or references for the statements. With links and references, these are bombshells. Without, its just so much smoke. Please go back and provide links and references for all of your interesting posts. Do it as a separate thread if you like.. recapping this thread in some sort of order.. by way of showing the trail that opens the question whether Obama was born in Hawaii.

Rather than feeding the smoke and silliness, make it clear and your rep will rise considerably.

607 posted on 07/04/2008 4:15:04 AM PDT by dalight
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To: Travis McGee
What if his true BC was issued in Kenya or elsewhere, possibly with a different name than BHO on it?

What if he is elected and then it is revealed that he was born in Kenya?

Does he resign?
The dims and nation 'forgive' him and shrug?
He refuses to resign and a coup follows?

Could get interesting these next 6 months.

608 posted on 07/04/2008 4:17:32 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: SE Mom
I hardly think the DNC would openly go along with that:)

Since when did a little fraud between friends matter to the DNC?

609 posted on 07/04/2008 4:20:02 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (Election 2008 - American Idol except no one can sing.)
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To: OldEagle

you must have missed a LOT of posts and threads on this

Yes, many people are asking just that: where were you born?

Family accounts from different sources say he was born in Kenya

610 posted on 07/04/2008 4:34:49 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: gswilder


611 posted on 07/04/2008 4:42:43 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

612 posted on 07/04/2008 4:45:02 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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place mark

613 posted on 07/04/2008 4:53:06 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (NYT - The Official Razor of "John's Long Mustache".)
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To: Dog Gone

From Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition: “Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.”

Question in regards to this from a poster on the site:

3. I am in the U.S. Army, a natural born citizen, and my wife is a U.S. Citizen, natural born. If my son is born in Germany (Military hospital or not), and has a U.S. Consular Report of Birth Abroad, and a German birth certificate can he become President of the United States?

Yes, since your son was born of citizens temporarily residing abroad, as in the military service, then he may become eligible to be president. Of course he must still “have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Two cases in point: (1) George Romney of Michigan who ran for president in 1968. Mr. Romney was born in a Mormon community in Chihuahua, Mexico. His parents were U.S. citizens so he was a natural born citizen. (2) John McCain of Arizona was a candidate in 2000. McCain was born in Panama where his father was stationed in the service, so he would also be “natural born.”

614 posted on 07/04/2008 4:57:34 AM PDT by oioiman (all we want is the law to be enforced.....)
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To: gidget7

Selling a forgery or using a forgery for some legal purpose are “crimes”. Forging a document is rarely a crime unless that document is MONEY!! (or bearer bonds, or a check).

615 posted on 07/04/2008 5:01:11 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: fatima
No, she was told to not fill that part in because the government agent handling the process is required to fill it in.

It is presumed that individuals do not have sufficient information to be able to determine their own "race".

616 posted on 07/04/2008 5:05:14 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: fatima

Oh, yeah, I did that BEFORE the law said anything about it. In another license bureau I could have put in “Martian” and they’d have accepted it.

617 posted on 07/04/2008 5:06:20 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: SE Mom

This all could well prove counterproductive. If Hussein was born in Kenya and therefore NOT eligible, it will only establish the precedent that that particular law and constitutional clause is no longer operant. He will not be denied his run nor election even if it proves out that he is actually an adopted Kenyan foundling. Unless the Clintons spring it.If they do it then they will already have their ducks properly arrayed and it just might be able to blow away this particular house of cards.

618 posted on 07/04/2008 5:10:01 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Fred Nerks

Moslems ALL give their kids MOSLEM NAMES. There are no exceptions. It just so happens that the fellows who wrote the Koran (not their belief, mine) were all a bunch of Arabs (except for a few stray Persians) and had Arab names. Those Arab names turned into Moslem names, and voila, having an Arab name means absolutely nothing when it comes to ethnicity!

619 posted on 07/04/2008 5:10:14 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Red Steel
The US rule regarding foreigners visiting here who happen to give birth is that the child must be added to the parent/family visa!

The law assumes the child is NOT a citizen of the US. Else there'd be no need to add the child to a visa since US citizens don't need a visa to be inside the US.

Foreign rules regarding Americans who give birth abroad are comparable.

There are also "status of forces" agreements in many countries and military personnel may be governed differently (regarding the visa deal).

Just quickly looking through the State Department's rules, it doesn't say children have to have a passport (when accompanied by a parent or guardian).

620 posted on 07/04/2008 5:22:26 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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