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Companies Begin Quest for Oil, Gas Off Florida
newsmax.com ^ | July 5, 2008 | staff

Posted on 07/05/2008 5:32:11 AM PDT by kellynla

PENSACOLA, Fla. -- Oil companies once viewed drilling in the deep waters off Florida as cost prohibitive. Politicians feared even the slightest sign of support would be career suicide.

No more. Record crude oil prices are fueling support for oil and natural gas exploration off the nation's shores. In Florida, movement was underway even before President Bush called on Congress last month to lift a federal moratorium that's barred new offshore drilling since 1981.

The early activity here stems from a 2006 Congressional compromise that allows drilling on 8.3 million acres more than 125 miles off the Panhandle _ an area that had been covered by the moratorium, which was enacted out of environmental concerns. In exchange, the state got a no-drilling buffer along the rest of its beaches.

Florida may turn out to be a prelude for other coastal states. If oil or natural gas deposits are found in the newly opened region, experts say it could further the push to explore other once-protected areas everywhere. It also could be a rallying point for critics, who say the new exploration isn't a license to expand exploration.

With gas topping $4 a gallon, recent polls show Americans, Floridians included, more supportive of drilling in protected areas. Some politicians _ including Gov. Charlie Crist _ have switched sides.

"We think the public is way out ahead of the politicians on these issues. People are more open to (offshore drilling) now," said Tom Moskitis, spokesman for the American Gas Association, a trade group.

At the same time, oil companies, driven by the record energy price, are more willing to risk $100 million or more to begin exploring new regions.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 110th; coastalenvironment; drilling; energy; enviroment; environment; fl2008; gasoline; gasprices; offshoredrilling; oil
"The Interior Department estimates there could be 18 billion barrels of oil and 77 trillion cubic feet of natural gas beneath the 574 million acres of federal coastal waters that are now off-limits."

DRILL HERE! DRILL NOW!


1 posted on 07/05/2008 5:32:11 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: thackney

ping


2 posted on 07/05/2008 5:32:29 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

About 30 years too late, but never late than never.

DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW!


3 posted on 07/05/2008 5:36:49 AM PDT by nobama08
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To: kellynla

125 miles off shore, it won’t spoil the view, folks and the fishing will be GREAT.


4 posted on 07/05/2008 5:40:59 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: kellynla

We need to do three things right now:
1) Drill.
2) And drill.
3) Then drill some more!


5 posted on 07/05/2008 5:41:17 AM PDT by libertylover
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To: kellynla

“The early activity here stems from a 2006 Congressional compromise that allows drilling on 8.3 million acres more than 125 miles off the Panhandle _ an area that had been covered by the moratorium, which was enacted out of environmental concerns. In exchange, the state got a no-drilling buffer along the rest of its beaches.”

Still not a single new acre opened for drilling, just companies gearing up to explore the area removed from the moratorium in 2006.

Time for our esteemed politicians to get off their rear ends and open some NEW areas for drilling, like all our coastal areas and ANWR.


6 posted on 07/05/2008 5:48:43 AM PDT by Will88
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To: kellynla
"2006 Congressional compromise that allows drilling on 8.3 million acres"

Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006

Opens 2 million acres March 2007
Opens 0.5 million acres March 2008
Opens 5.8 million acres March 2009

Redirects a portion of the royalties to TX, LA, MS, and AL

7 posted on 07/05/2008 5:58:39 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Will88

How about horizontal drilling; can we go out there and drill back to the forbidden area?


8 posted on 07/05/2008 6:01:36 AM PDT by askrenr (Slightly to the right of Attila the Hun.)
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To: Will88

They have already begun drilling the first well in this lease area known as Area 181. Bush auctioned the first leases in this area in Dec 2001. But, it got held up in Congress.


9 posted on 07/05/2008 6:02:55 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: kellynla

I’m all for the drilling, but I have a question. They’re drilling 125 miles from the Panhandle which is at the upper part of the Gulf of Mexico. Florida is about 400 miles long. So how many miles is the drilling offshore of the west of Florida? Not that it matters, but I’m curious.


10 posted on 07/05/2008 6:03:03 AM PDT by kitkat (DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW)
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To: askrenr

“How about horizontal drilling; can we go out there and drill back to the forbidden area?”

I don’t know. Maybe someone more knowledgeable about such details is around.


11 posted on 07/05/2008 6:03:29 AM PDT by Will88
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To: kitkat; thackney

“I’m all for the drilling, but I have a question. They’re drilling 125 miles from the Panhandle which is at the upper part of the Gulf of Mexico. Florida is about 400 miles long. So how many miles is the drilling offshore of the west of Florida? Not that it matters, but I’m curious.”

You’ll have to ask “thackney” who is our resident oil expert. :-}


12 posted on 07/05/2008 6:16:07 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Ditter
"125 miles off shore, it won’t spoil the view, folks and the fishing will be GREAT."

12.5 miles off shore won't spoil the view either. There are rigs off the Mississippi beach that are "barely" visible on a good clear day---I think they're closer than 10 miles to the shore. I can't say that the tiny glow of light at night "spoils the view". Now, windmills---THOSE are eyesores (at least the ones in California that I've driven past).

13 posted on 07/05/2008 6:21:26 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: kellynla; kitkat
213 miles, as measured from Tampa.

Map of Area 181 and South 181

That green area in the map, which was known as the "stove pipe" in the Clinton-Chiles map was excluded.

14 posted on 07/05/2008 6:23:04 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Wonder Warthog

I have seen the windmills in west Texas and they are hideous. Floridians have been convinced that drilling off shore will destroy their tourism but what if the tourist can’t afford to come there anymore? I wasn’t kidding about the fishing. Fishing around oil platforms is great.


15 posted on 07/05/2008 6:27:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: askrenr

You have to have a structure to drill and produce from. If the water is deep enough, 300 feet or so, you can have subsea trees or wet trees and drill from a floater. If the water is shallow you have to have dry trees or trees sitting on a structure.
Horizontal drilling means your wells are horizontal. You kick off, and drill through the reservoir horizontally. It is done alot in the north sea, where the tvd is relatively shallow, but not in the gulf where the tvd is high. But you still have to have a structure to produce to. Max. distance in a horizontal well currently is 30,000 feet. That is approx 5.5 miles so to drill offshore to reservoirs from land probably wouldnt be possible.
What people in Florida fear is a discharge on the beaches like the Exxon Valdez. Discharges happen, but it is usually mud.


16 posted on 07/05/2008 6:28:58 AM PDT by oilfieldtrash
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To: Ditter

“Floridians have been convinced that drilling off shore will destroy their tourism but what if the tourist can’t afford to come there anymore?”

Floridians need to grow up on this issue. There are few places to drill that won’t pose some small threat to someone. But there is probably no non-essential activity in the US that consumes more gasoline than RVs, motor homes, giant pickups pulling travel trailers and boats, etc., headed to Florida for vacation from all over the eastern US.

Florida’s tourism industry requires enormous amounts of gasoline for the tourists to get there, so that state needs to stop whining and make it’s contribution to the nation’s energy needs, or maybe we need to restrict all those gas guzzling vacation vehicles in the name of conservation.


17 posted on 07/05/2008 6:34:00 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Ditter
"I wasn’t kidding about the fishing. Fishing around oil platforms is great."

I'm originally from Louisiana, so I know about the "artificial reef" effect of oil rigs. The fishies love'em.

18 posted on 07/05/2008 6:35:47 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: kellynla

.....heh,heh....the pols are are running to embrace drilling...they know the voters are angry.

....I went up to our little country P.O. this morning to mail a package...the talk up there was all about $4.00 gas...folks are mad and they are scared....our county is rural and the fear is that people will have to move to the city to be near the jobs...this separates extended families and hurts younger workers who often rely on grandparents close by for day care....I know that 5 acres and a double wide is looked down upon by liberal elites, but it’s a lot better than living in a loud, crowded apartment building in the city.


19 posted on 07/05/2008 7:08:42 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: nobama08

The longest journey starts with a single step. In our current situation we had better start a full out run.


20 posted on 07/05/2008 7:10:37 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: kitkat

My rough guess is about 200 miles from the panhandle to Fla west coast


21 posted on 07/05/2008 7:13:28 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: Will88

I think the Chinese are already slant drilling into our areas from just outside the boundaries.


22 posted on 07/05/2008 7:16:18 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: hdstmf
I think the Chinese are already slant drilling into our areas from just outside the boundaries.

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Not yet. The ChiComs and Fidelistas have signed anagreement to move forward but are still in the exploration phase.

23 posted on 07/05/2008 7:18:28 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: kellynla

google Gull Island, why arent they drilling there?


24 posted on 07/05/2008 7:21:04 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: kellynla

I guess I can put this link in.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/gull_island_oil.html


25 posted on 07/05/2008 7:21:54 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: Wonder Warthog
You measure the distance to your visible horizon by taking the square root of 1.5 x eye height. So, if you are standing at the waters edge and your eyes are six feet from the ground then your visible horizon is three miles .....

At 45 feet of elevation the VH is 6.7 miles.

26 posted on 07/05/2008 7:26:21 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: sweetiepiezer; thackney

“google Gull Island, why arent they drilling there?”

“thackney” would have to answer you. He might know.


27 posted on 07/05/2008 7:31:38 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: wtc911

Where are the environmentalists as the Chinese have such a poor record for preserving the environment?


28 posted on 07/05/2008 7:35:27 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ
Where are the environmentalists as the Chinese have such a poor record for preserving the environment?

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The Chinese are Red and therefore kissing cousins of the Greens and exempt from regulation.

29 posted on 07/05/2008 7:47:00 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Ditter

“and the fishing will be GREAT”

Rigs attract little fish that attract bigger fish to eat them that attract fisherman!

In he gulf of California when there wasn’t any breeze and no action when marlin fishing i’ve taken half a dozen baloons and tied them together with a sinker and set them out for an hour and then come back an a lot of times they would have attracted some small fish under them and they would have attracted marlin to the area for me to catch.

Just one of the little tricks i’ve used over the years TO catch close to 300 marlin.


30 posted on 07/05/2008 8:03:06 AM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: kellynla
Drill here, drill now and use Corn for food - not for gasoline!!
31 posted on 07/05/2008 8:16:55 AM PDT by RightWingTeen
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To: Ben Ficklin

The leasing schedule is back loaded — 5.8 million of the 8.3 million acres to be leased in March, 2009. It’s possible a Democrat-heavy Congress and a President Obama will rescind the March ‘09 lease.


32 posted on 07/05/2008 8:43:37 AM PDT by Otho
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To: kellynla
Oil companies once viewed drilling in the deep waters off Florida as cost prohibitive

Maybe some did. George H W Bush wouldn't have.

33 posted on 07/05/2008 8:46:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: hdstmf
the Chinese are already slant drilling into our areas

All kinds of nursery tales come from the vicinity of the oil industry. Another one is that BP is selling Prudhoe oil to Japan. It's not worth refuting.

34 posted on 07/05/2008 8:49:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Will88

Hey, I live in Tampa Florida which have some of the finest beaches in the area but I’m all for DRILLING! I’m tired of the USA being held over (pardon my pun) barrel when the price of oil & gas goes up over some screaming headlines “terrorists attacked Nigeria’s pipelines, Iran says it will block sealanes, Texas fineries on fire etc..”

I would like to be reassure that we do have access to our oil and less dependency on foreign oil while we research alternative energy resources.

By the way I email my Floridian Senator Nelson that I wanted to drill off the shores of Florida which will bring paying jobs and if you continue to vote no to drilling you have lost my vote. His response he towed the Dem’s line no drilling. I email him back and well you lost my vote. Yes I voted for him in the last election because the alternative was Katherine Harris. My mistake and now I’m living with it! Yikes!


35 posted on 07/05/2008 8:55:29 AM PDT by avalonmistmoon
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To: kellynla
bumper-sticker
 
 

Contact your Congress critters to let them know that you are tired of high gas prices.

U. S. Senate

U. S. House of Representatives

36 posted on 07/05/2008 9:03:10 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: avalonmistmoon

“Hey, I live in Tampa Florida which have some of the finest beaches in the area but I’m all for DRILLING!”

I expect a lot of Floridians favor drilling for the reasons you give. On an issue like this, the tourism industry spokesmen probably make nice contributions to politicians and make their case while most citizens voice no opinion on the issue until the shortsightedness of the special interests groups begins to have negative impact on everyone.

This is one issue I did come to very early. I’ve thought since the 1970s that we should have treated this as matter of national security and put more and more domestic reserves into production or at least in some standby status. But crude was cheap during the ‘80s and ‘90s, so as is typical, the politicians reacted to the loudest special interests and put most of our territory off limits to new exploration and drilling. And here we are now.

The more I watch our politicians operate, the less regard I have for them.


37 posted on 07/05/2008 9:04:47 AM PDT by Will88
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To: kellynla

Good news, now open the rest of the states.

If you like $5/gal, Thank Congress. If you want $10, Vote Obama.

Pray for W and Our Troops


38 posted on 07/05/2008 9:25:05 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

***Map of Area 181 and South 181

That green area in the map, which was known as the “stove pipe” in the Clinton-Chiles map was excluded. ***

Thanks, Ben. Now I can visualize it much better than from the info in the article.


39 posted on 07/05/2008 9:38:52 AM PDT by kitkat (DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW)
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To: wtc911
"You measure the distance to your visible horizon by taking the square root of 1.5 x eye height. So, if you are standing at the waters edge and your eyes are six feet from the ground then your visible horizon is three miles ....."

Thanks for the info. Not being a "seafarin' type", I've never seen (or had occasion to need) the method. So, my surmise that allowing drilling past 12 miles offshore eliminates the "tourist eyesore" aspect of offshore oil drilling was correct.

40 posted on 07/05/2008 10:29:48 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Yes, even from a fourth floor window.


41 posted on 07/05/2008 10:51:59 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: dalereed
What a great trick! Never would have thought of using balloons that way. We fished for marlin, quite successfully, in the Gulf of Mexico for years. We kept our boat at a marina in Freeport Texas and it was about 100 miles to marlin water. That long trip got old but it was fun while it lasted. I have only caught one marlin myself, a 350 pounder but my husband and guest have caught quite a few. A friend hooked a 500+ pound marlin in the tail and fought him for 8 hours before boating him. My job was to keep the man cooled down with ice water and cold towels. I thought we were going to lose the fisherman.
42 posted on 07/05/2008 11:23:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Otho
It is possible but Gulf state dems supported it because of the royalties their state receives and western democrats supported it because they thought that opening that area to drilling would decrease the need to drill on federal lands in their western state.

Plus, that last remaining area is in the central gulf, not the eastern gulf.

Plus, the moratorium in the Gulf always contained the "except Area 181" clause.

Similarly, the Alaska moratorium contains the "except Bristol Bay" clause. If you google Bristol Bay, you will see that the EIS is being drafted and DOI is accepting public comments. Bush will probably auction leases there before he leaves office. That's when the battle starts.

43 posted on 07/05/2008 12:23:43 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: wtc911
At 45 feet of elevation the VH is 6.7 miles.

The square root of 67.5 is 8.21.

44 posted on 07/06/2008 7:49:42 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Thank you but I was using 1.5 x 30 feet.


45 posted on 07/06/2008 8:02:49 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
1.5 x 30 feet is 30 feet of elevation, not 45 feet.
46 posted on 07/06/2008 8:08:35 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: nobama08
We're already on board - you need the dims too!
Drill here! Drill Now! Pay less!
Dims only care when it comes out of THEIR pockets! ;-)
47 posted on 07/06/2008 9:46:29 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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To: kellynla
A company can have as much as $4 billion invested and a wait of up to five years before seeing any return on the investment, Strive said.
So if we take away all the oil company's profits they'll still want to risk these sums out of the goodness of their hearts ... right? ;-(
48 posted on 07/06/2008 9:50:50 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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