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Is There Legitimate Doubt About Obama's Eligibility to be President?
The Corner on National Review Online ^ | 7/6/2008 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 07/06/2008 10:47:57 AM PDT by Aria

I had not caught up until today with this apparent controversy over whether the Hawaii birth certificate proffered by Obama's campaign is a forgery and whether there are legitimate questions about whether he was born in the United States — if he wasn't, he almost certainly would not be qualified under the Constitution and relevant immigration statutes to be president. Our Jim Geraghty seemed to pooh-pooh the birth certificate controversy about a week ago, but according to the above cited report (at a site called DougRoss@Journal) and a new one from Israeli Insider, there are new developments, and the Obama campaign appears to be stonewalling. Shouldn't it be a fairly easy matter to prove he was born in Hawaii if he really was? Why wouldn't Obama just end this quickly?

Is there anything to this?

ADDENDUM: I should add to the above that I am not a conspiracy theorist. My predisposition on the many stories floating around about Obama and his circle is to ignore them on the following theory: If there was really anything to this or that, the Clintons would have found it and gotten their media friends all over it. This story about Obama's eligibility puzzles me because (a) it is so basic, (b) it should be so easy to prove the relevant facts of his birth, (c) the Obama campaign's response to the story is bizarre, and (d) it seems to be getting worse rather than resolved.

07/06 12:09 PM


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; forgery; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: EEDUDE

No, but I don’t think a lot of Obama supporters would recognize a Marxist if it bit them on the ass.
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And they will eventually, if not this November, cause us all to be bitten on the ass.


201 posted on 07/06/2008 4:28:49 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: I see my hands

You mean,”Not that answer that I WANTED”


202 posted on 07/06/2008 4:30:10 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610

River - Did Rathergate and the forged bush documents instantly explode onto the mainstream media news outlet when the blogs 1st began to report them? That issue certainly endured quite the gestation period as well - initially written off as just another desperate right wing claim despite the factual claims on the ground. No major news outlet will touch this either at this point - at least not until it has gained critical mass to where the Obama camp finds itself completely cornered. Why take a chance and report it now? Even Fox news would simply prefer others assume any and all risk with respect to a story which could still possess liability. Let the lower tier media complete the full investigation first, then, and if further information results in their litmus test for reporting, it will explode just a big as Rathergate.

Granted - if Obama produces an valid BC, this whole discussion could be over well before it goes further. Any mention of this by the major networks, even before the myth is resolved, only hurts him. Instead, this matter continues to build with no benefit to his campaign even if it can be debunked. Again - the ball is in their court, and they have yet to return.


203 posted on 07/06/2008 4:36:46 PM PDT by motoman
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To: RipSawyer
More artwork. Notice how art imitates life? A few artists of the past with artwork of now.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting


204 posted on 07/06/2008 4:42:56 PM PDT by cruise_missile ('')
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To: Riverman94610

River - In Wright’s case, perception is a much more powerful reality. Sorry, but the rest of our country that witnessed his racist, America hating rants, could ever come to the conclusion that he is just a big ‘ol “pussycat”. In his big old teddy bear kind of a way, he and the likes of him will destroy this country with a big friendly smile on his face if that’s the case.

Lastly - if your black coworkers’ intent is to intimidate others by threat of riot if their man loses, whether to lying about who he really is or otherwise - THEN LET THE RIOTS BEGIN!!! B R I N G I T ON!! Buck up and don’t be initimadated - that’s how tyrannical, godless, communist regimes learned how to control and minipulate the masses. This is STILL AMERICA!!


205 posted on 07/06/2008 4:46:51 PM PDT by motoman
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To: SE Mom
SE Mom wrote: Check THIS out kids: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-tech-expe.html

Now, I'm not saying that I came up with my research before anyone else did, but I did start it on June 12, and did all of it independently. The reason why it was not posted to the Internet earlier was because I tried to get WorldNetDaily.Com to publish the story.

However, they never got back to me, so I decided to create a blog for the specific purpose of publishing my research.

But, first I had to create a Photobucket account for the images.

By the time I got all of the images loaded onto it, and finished the discussion, it was Midnight on June 20th.

Anyway, I made a modest effort to spread the info onto the blogsphere...but maybe not well enough, because there are those, like Atlas Shrugged, "who have arrived rather late to the party," so to speak, and who have ignored my work.

Others, however, DID pick up on it and gave the proper attributions, like TexasDarlin and Reuven Koret, but apparently, there are still a lot of folks just waking up to the news, and thinking that THEIR research revealed something new.

In the case of the "hidden seal and stamp," well, yes, that was really "breaking news," but we're seeing a lot of rehashing of stuff we all now know about."

Many thanks to Free Republic in helping me get the word out.


206 posted on 07/06/2008 4:47:05 PM PDT by Polarik (The Greater Evil)
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To: Polarik

Good job so far!


207 posted on 07/06/2008 4:53:04 PM PDT by bvw
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To: SE Mom

Lol, glad I read the thread as I was getting ready to post those same links.


208 posted on 07/06/2008 5:06:27 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: liberallarry

Wow. So you’re saying that if we learn for a fact that Obama is not eligible to be our President, we should sit on that information? And you really are not being sarcastic?

Wow.

I guess ethics escape you.


209 posted on 07/06/2008 5:06:28 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: freespirited

This bothers me too, the people who are so self-righteously insisting this is a genuine document are overlooking the fact that it says on its own face that it is invalid. It all seems so weird. If the document is real what reason could there be to block out the number, I can’t think of a legitimate reason either.


210 posted on 07/06/2008 5:21:03 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Riverman94610
"You mean,”Not that answer that I WANTED"

Easy cliched counter but no, that's exactly wrong. Not an answer to the question I asked.

Your reasoning (blacks will be angered if we rough up Obama yet don't even conceive of whites outrage if he is given affirmative action skids during the campaign) is a cousin to those (I didn't say you) who figure 9/11 was a reasonable response to past US Mid-East policies yet don't endorse our bringing the battle to them.


211 posted on 07/06/2008 5:28:59 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Polarik

You’ve done extraordinary work, Polarik and it should be recognized as such:)


212 posted on 07/06/2008 5:40:06 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Mamzelle

I wonder if George Soros knows a lot about the history of “Colonel Tom Parker”. Does anyone know if Obamalamadingdong is inordinately fond of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches?


213 posted on 07/06/2008 5:47:20 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: keats5
Not at all. But I am saying something about this fact.

While there's no formal statute of limitations which applies to this situation, and even if there was, it's usual application would not be exact, the idea behind it is the same; Enough is enough, at some point you are no longer pursuing justice, some victories are Pyrrhic indeed.

214 posted on 07/06/2008 5:50:44 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Polarik
Andy McCarthy has added this comment on The Corner at NRO:

Re: Is There Legitimate Doubt About Obama's Eligibility to be President? [Andy McCarthy] A reader alerts me that AJ Strata has looked carefully at the Obama citizenship story and says it is nonsense. 07/06 05:23 PM

215 posted on 07/06/2008 5:54:00 PM PDT by Amityschild
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To: 21twelve

“I think that is part of the thinking of not voting for McCain even if it means Obabma gets in. “

That is precisely what I meant by it. People on both sides of the aisle are simply disgusted by our “leaders” incompetence and malfeasance.


216 posted on 07/06/2008 6:00:23 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: tillacum

“our first legal bastard president.”

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Many people are convinced that Bill Clinton was our first bastard president, was he not a “legal bastard”?


217 posted on 07/06/2008 6:08:02 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: mkjessup

You’re just wasting good logic with that poster, my friend.


218 posted on 07/06/2008 6:10:45 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: Riverman94610

Believe me,I look like the prototypical”honkie”
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That can’t possibly be because I am the prototypical honkie!


219 posted on 07/06/2008 6:10:59 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Amityschild

who is ajstrata and why would his opinion mean anything?


220 posted on 07/06/2008 6:13:36 PM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: liberallarry

“I certainly mean that disqualifying Obama on these grounds at this time would tear the country apart and shouldn’t be attempted.....”

Seems to be an Obama MO..

Obama meanwhile walked into a state legislature seat for a position handed over to him by his mentor. When she decided she wanted to run anyway, Obama’s lawyers disqualified her and the other candidates by invalidating their ballot signatures. Not exactly democracy in action, but it was the way Obama preferred to win.

In the Senate race, Obama was a long shot with no real chance of winning. Then suddenly his Democratic primary opponent and the front runner Dan Hynes’s campaign imploded when allegations emerged by his ex-wife that he had abused her.

Obama won the Democratic party nomination but looked unlikely to defeat the Republican candidate Jack Ryan. Then Jack Ryan’s ex-wife suddenly alleged that he led a perverted lifestyle. (are you seeing the pattern here?) Jack Ryan pulled out, the GOP insanely threw in Allan Keyes at the last minute. Obama won. Allan Keyes lost.

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2008/02/barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton-two.html


221 posted on 07/06/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by mo
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To: keats5
You’re just wasting good logic with that poster, my friend.

Isn't that what happens everytime we try to reason with liberals? LOL
222 posted on 07/06/2008 6:27:43 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: spacejunkie01

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2041553/posts


223 posted on 07/06/2008 6:28:00 PM PDT by Amityschild
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To: Atomic Vomit
All three of my foreign born children, who later became naturalized citizens, have valid US passports. When we adopted them, they were issued new US birth certificates listing us as their parents, although their birthplaces are listed as their countries of origin. When they were naturalized, they got papers which proved their citizenship. We needed those two documents to get their US passports.

Not one is considered a “natural born citizen,” and despite the fact that they are all brilliant, charming and conservative, none can ever be President of these United States, unless the Constitution is changed.

224 posted on 07/06/2008 6:30:39 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: tillacum

“should he win the presidency, he will be our first legal bastard president”

Well, technically, Bill Clinton’s father still was married to another woman when he married Clinton’s mother, hence technically the marriage was no more legal than the marriage of Obama’s mother and Senior (if such an event occurred). Therefore, TECHNICALLY, you could argue Obama would be the second bastard president.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jefferson_Blythe%2C_Jr.


225 posted on 07/06/2008 6:33:49 PM PDT by DrC
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To: mo

Look, I’ve stated my position. If you don’t agree, then disregard it.


226 posted on 07/06/2008 6:34:02 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Aria

**Is There Legitimate Doubt About Obama’s Eligibility to be President?**

Yes.


227 posted on 07/06/2008 6:50:58 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: liberallarry

So?

The Constitution is the Constitution, if he isn’t qualified (even if it is this late in the election cycle), then that’s too bad we have to follow it..


228 posted on 07/06/2008 6:58:35 PM PDT by JSDude1 (It;s only a protest vote if your political worldview is Republican 1st, conservative 2nd-pissant)
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To: RipSawyer

OK,I’ll give the crown to you,buddy!


229 posted on 07/06/2008 7:39:45 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: I see my hands

Obama can’t be responsible for everything his idiot cousin in Kenya says or thinks!
Thats not fair at all.I have a couple of cousins myself who are complete jerks.All we have in common is blood ties.


230 posted on 07/06/2008 7:41:48 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: liberallarry

“Disqualifying him on those grounds now - even if legitimate - would tear the country apart.”

So we should just disregard one of only TWO constitutional requirements because segments of the country don’t respect it?


231 posted on 07/06/2008 7:42:04 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: spacejunkie01; Polarik
who is ajstrata and why would his opinion mean anything?

He's got a few holes in his "analysis".

Problems with Strata-Sphere's Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Myth Busting?

And Polarik, he prominently mentions you throughout his the "Obama BC is real" speel.

232 posted on 07/06/2008 7:56:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: motoman

“At any rate, the Obama campaign could simply resolve this by producing an authentic, non-forged document. At his point, I simply cannot see any advantage as to why they would allow this to drag out if such a BC existed.”

Indeed. Makes you wonder if a Hawaiian birth record exists at all, doesn’t it?

Somewhere, buried in the flood of earlier postings on this subject, I recall reading that - in one of his books - Obama said that he HAS his [original?] birth certificate. Not the phony “Certification of Live Birth” that has been posted at the KOS and “Fight the Smears” web sites, but the ORIGINAL.

I would like to pose a question to you, and to any other Freepers reading this:
What information could possibly appear upon the original that might be so “embarassing” to Obama that he could not release it to quell the growing controversy?

The religion of his father being “Islam”?
His OWN religion being “Islam” (if that even appeared on original Hawaiian birth certificates from 1961)?
His race as “white”?
His parents being unmarried?
No father listed?
His name listed as “Barry Dunham”?

Sit back and think for a moment. Who at birth can control what information is entered on their birth certificate? Not you. Not I. Not Obama. Not ANYone.

And - if that’s the case - should he be blamed for information entered upon it, that he could not control?

As a conservative, I would not hold it against Obama if the birth certificate said “white”, yet he identifies with the black race instead.
I would not hold it against him if the name he currently uses differs from that on the birth document.
I would not even hold it against him if the birth certificate listed him as a “Muslim”, yet he had made an honest converstion to Christianity.

Nor do I believe that any reasonable conservative would claim that information on that document - no matter how “embarassing” - disqualified him from becoming who he is today. This is America, where people make their own dreams.

No.
There is nothing on the original Obama birth certificate that could possibly be “embarassing” enough to discredit Obama, force him from the race, or cause his supporters to turn away from him.

What appears on the certificate must be something more serious, more damning, than having the potential to simply “embarass” him.

I’m wondering if the “birth certificate” that Obama has in his personal possession (assuming that his claim to have it is truthful) is indeed a “birth certificate”, but NOT one from Hawaii?

If not from there, from where?

Just askin’....

- John


233 posted on 07/06/2008 8:00:51 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: DrC

I’d forgotten that bit of info. I read that somewhere that clinton’s father may not have had time for his divorce in Tx was complete before he began the process of siring bill.


234 posted on 07/06/2008 8:03:05 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: liberallarry

Larry, HA HA to you back! You’re the one who seems to like riots enough to predict their occurrence at the drop of a hat if any effoprt is made to uphold the Constitution, If angry adolescents - and I’m certain you’re not among them - decide to act up and act out as they did in the sixties, lawful authority WILL act as it did then with whatever force is needed to put them down.....and if you live in Denver, the problems will be right in your back yard. Have a peaceful evening while you can.


235 posted on 07/06/2008 8:11:56 PM PDT by Postman
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To: Fishrrman
Fishrrman,

I 100% agree - as with any naturally born American citizen, there is nothing whatsoever on a legit U.S birth certificate that BHO would have to be embarrassed of or apologize for.

If he does posses a state of HI BC, and it does mention one or more of the items you listed, what WILL look completely scandalous would be the truth of who he really is in contrast to just the opposite he has been advertising himself to be - from his autobiographies, his speeches, and his other quoted statements. Such a coming out of the truth would stink of deception, manipulation and fraud upon the electorate to high heaven - why? Because he would appear guilty as hell for trying to cover up something for some “unknown agenda”. Why would he lie? What is he trying to hide? What on the range of possible motives would this mean? What would independent and moderate democrats think of his character being caught in a lie of such proportion?

236 posted on 07/06/2008 8:16:26 PM PDT by motoman
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To: liberallarry
"Ha! Completely idiotic! You really want to see a repeat of the ‘60s riots magnified by 10? Where do you live that you wish for such a scenario?"

What is idiotic, is your proposal that America be threatened by an unruly and criminally predisposed minority to accept an unqualified candidate as specified by the Constitution....

At what point do YOU take a stand?

I would hope that the next riots - are met with the level of force called for in riots against the LAWFUL implementation of CONSTITUTIONAL requirements...

If there be blood in the streets - let it come now.
It's long overdue....that bad things SHOULD happen to folks doing bad things....

So far -- failing to react to riots, mayhem, wilding, looting and professional crime gangs on our streets --- has not served society's best interest.

I can assure you -- I will not be cowered by rioting mobs in my street, I will be firing for effect.

Where will you be? In your closet sucking your thumb?

237 posted on 07/06/2008 8:17:16 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: freespirited

I find the race of the father being stated as AFRICAN, is the most questionable...

African is not a race..
African is a person from the continent of Africa - and not all are black.

In that era — I suspect Colored, Black or Negro would have been used...
In this era — “African” is politically correct and would ONLY be used by someone “producing” the Birth Certificate in the currect politically correct era.


238 posted on 07/06/2008 8:21:21 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
You and I differ completely in our assessment of the situation.

I'm all for taking a really strong stand against criminals and street thugs. I saw first hand what Giuliani accomplished in New York. It should be repeated everywhere.

But this is different. If Obama is disqualified on this kind of technicality blacks will see it as an action of white racists trying to pull the same shit they did in the days of segregation, hiding behind the rule of law, states rights, the Constitution.

And they'll be right.

I don't know where you live but your bluster sounds to me like that of a monumental fool, someone who's never actually experienced street riots and burning cities.

239 posted on 07/06/2008 8:28:53 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Riverman94610
Well, in any event, I'm sure we agree: hooray for the red, white, and blue!

240 posted on 07/06/2008 8:33:28 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: liberallarry
"If Obama is disqualified on this kind of technicality blacks will see it as an action of white racists trying to pull the same shit they did in the days of segregation, hiding behind the rule of law, states rights, the Constitution.

Again you exhibit pretty muddy thinking...
Not being QUALIFIED as prescribed in the constitution, is not a technicality -- it is a fundamental disqualifier. If blacks wish to riot -- so be it.
The anger SHOULD be directed at Obama if he deceived them. At some point - the LAW and the CONSTITUTION should be upheld.

"I don't know where you live but your bluster sounds to me like that of a monumental fool, someone who's never actually experienced street riots and burning cities."

I went to Anacostia High School, in S.E. Washington, D.C.in the late 50's and still lived on the Washington border in 68 during the riots..
I KNOW what rioting animals in the streets is all about.
I was armed then, out in the street - but didn't need to fire.

Don't for a moment doubt I would fire if necessary.
I'm an old man -- but not too old to repeat acts of the past.
I've made more than my share of bones - and would not recoil from the need to fire on rioters... Not for an instant.

You take the typical position, that when black thugs riot - the white man is responsible...

In this case - if Obama is disqualified (which I doubt, by the way) and blacks riot and people die -- it is ALL on Obama's head for deceiving America about his eligibility - it would clearly be a case of "Obama Lied and People Died"... Right?

241 posted on 07/06/2008 8:51:47 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
I'm glad to hear you are experienced. That, at least, is reassuring.

My position is all those who wanted to question Obama's qualifications had plenty of time to do so. That time is passed. Maybe not technically, but, in reality, for the consequences of such a disqualification are now enormous.

If Obama is presented with evidence of fraud and admits to it, then, there will be no rioting. His supporters will be angry and humiliated but they will accept the situation. Not everyone, but most.

But that's a scenario which I find virtually not believable.

He will challenge the authenticity of whatever documents are produced. There will be the usual interminable and unconvincing legal struggle. And it will end in a verdict which will convince no one who is not already predisposed.

There'll be civil war.

242 posted on 07/06/2008 9:55:08 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
"There'll be civil war."

"My position is all those who wanted to question Obama's qualifications had plenty of time to do so."

Since when has the DNC or Chicago ever shown any interest in determining the eligibility of one of their candidates to do anything beyond getting elected?

Clearly - the DNC is not the "opposition"..
It is a very recent event - that bloggers have questioned the authenticity of the Birth Certificated posted.

Now that he has been put forth as the likely candidate - ANYONE can challenge his eligibility.
If Obama can't provide legitimate proof of his citizenship -- his opponents should demand the DNC deny him the nomination. Remember - he hasn't YET been nominated.

If in the unlikely case that Obama is not a citizen, and allowed the situation to spin out of control merely to pursue his ambitions --- then Obama is responsible.

"He will challenge the authenticity of whatever documents are produced. "

Others are NOT required to produce documents... OBAMA is required to produce proof of his being a natural born citizen.

"There'll be Civil War".

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but there has been a low level Civil War in America for decades..
If an Obama lie throws it into full scale - who is to blame?

243 posted on 07/06/2008 10:12:24 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

“The ultra left dim establishment have probably already had a insider in the Hawaiian bureaucracy manufacture false documents that show “Barry” Hussein Mohammed Obama was born in Hawaii.”

Exactly. That’s why you need the original birth certtificate and the hopital records of the birth. What is posted is a “certificate or proof of birth” suitable to obtain passports etc. This is NOT an actual birth certificate.

This has been said many time before, but DAMMITT I’m saying it again:

This whole thing is so basic.

Hey,Obama. What are you hiding?

Show us your original Birth Certificate.
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244 posted on 07/07/2008 2:54:24 AM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be a Jackie Robinson.)
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To: river rat
Obama has been a serious candidate for many months. He has been a public official for years. It's the responsibility of all sorts of government and non-government agencies to make sure that something like this doesn't happen. It's not solely that of the DNC. Certainly the FBI has looked at his birth certificate many times. Bloggers are not going to find anything they couldn't.

So what will happen - if anything does - is that someone will produce some new documents or witnesses or experts which they'll claim prove the official birth certificate is a fraud.

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but there has been a low level Civil War in America for decades..

Since the founding of the country. And that's the situation not just in this country but in every country. The genius of our system is that it has remained at a low level for all this time - except once, when it proved unable to handle the issue of race.

245 posted on 07/07/2008 4:01:27 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
"He has been a public official for years. It's the responsibility of all sorts of government and non-government agencies to make sure that something like this doesn't happen."

Get a grip on things.... NONE of Obama's former "positions" required him to be a "Natural Born Citizen"..
The Presidency - DOES.

It is NOT the Government's job to keep low level politicians from lying, they do it all the time!

Why in hell would you think the FBI would have "looked at his Birth Certificate many times"?
To what purpose?

Your faith in the honesty of politicians and concept of the efficiency of the Federal Government --- indicates the naivety of a Liberal/Leftist.

Look at the 10s of millions of illegal immigrants running around with fake, stolen or "purchased" identity documents..

Oh, and by the way --- STATES RIGHTS among other issues was the principal cause of the Civil War, with slavery a side issue tied to States Rights.

246 posted on 07/07/2008 9:20:35 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: cruise_missile; keats5; bvw
I know Obama has said that words are pretty important. But so are symbols. I found this interesting. The symbol of Stalin/Lenin had similar “star” as the Obama poster at http://pentdego.com/obama.aspx

See these threads on the artist, Shepard Fairey:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/fairey/index?tab=articles

Fairey is another AmeriKKKa-hating Marxist friend-of-Obama. He has raised over $400,000 for Obama's campaign.



Obama has written Fairey that he admires "the political messages involved in your work."




247 posted on 07/07/2008 2:49:19 PM PDT by Dajjal (Who murdered Larry Bland, Nate Spencer & Donald Young?)
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To: Always Right
Obama is definitely hiding something. It is speculation as to what, but he is hiding something.

My unoffical sources tell me it is the name Mohamed behind the Hussein that he does not want anyone to know about.

248 posted on 07/07/2008 2:54:20 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: Dajjal

Stalin would have had him enviscerated alive. Mao would have starved him in a windowless basement cell. Fairey is his name, and playing the diffident dilletante of a spoiled suburban brat is his game. He’s very artistic and life-wise stupid but not Marxist.


249 posted on 07/07/2008 3:05:27 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Dajjal

Very interesting. How many Marxist friends does this guy have? I know Wright said the Black Liberation Theology was base on James Cone. James Cone said it was based on Marxism, Christianity and The Nation of Islam.

Bill Ayers was/is he a Marxist too? He sure seems to have leanings that way.

Don’t Marxist hate America?
Now this artist. This should be HUGE news.


250 posted on 07/07/2008 6:57:50 PM PDT by cruise_missile ('')
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