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RV owners justify staying on the road
KC Star ^ | 7/5/08 | ALAN GOFORTH

Posted on 07/06/2008 12:28:37 PM PDT by peggybac

Soaring fuel prices don’t have to keep you at home this summer when you can take your home with you.

That sums up the attitude of recreational vehicle owners such as Virg and Vickie Paulson of Overland Park, who are adjusting to paying $4 a gallon for gasoline and even more for diesel fuel.

“We don’t see that the price of fuel will have any substantial impact on how much we travel in our motor home,” said Virg, whose Winnebago averages between eight and 10 miles per gallon.

“We really do believe that the other savings more than make up for the cost of fuel. We want to be able to sleep in our own bed every night, and we like being able to pull off at a convenient spot when we’re hungry and not even having to open the door. It really is a convenience thing.”

David and Irene Korotev of Blue Springs, who plan to travel to a number of rescue-dog events around the Midwest this summer, also like the convenience of their motor home.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


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1 posted on 07/06/2008 12:28:37 PM PDT by peggybac
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To: peggybac

They don’t need to justify it. If they can pay the price for the fuel they can do what they want with it.

Let the market do its thing.

I can remember when this used to be a free country.


2 posted on 07/06/2008 12:34:51 PM PDT by Nik Naym (If Republicans are your problem, Democrats aren't the answer!)
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To: peggybac

I’m just waiting for the enviro extremists to start demonizing people who drive RVs. Among other things, they will point to low gas mileage and the sewage clean outs and say that these vehicles are too polluting. Not saying I agree with that, but that could happen. Yep, gotta be “green” at all costs to the extremists in the environmental movement.


3 posted on 07/06/2008 12:36:23 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Nik Naym

That’s what I posted on there. I can’t believe the terrible things some are saying about the Korean War generation.


4 posted on 07/06/2008 12:36:28 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: peggybac
I recall well how the RV market died in the late sventies when the gas lines hit. It was not a pretty sight. I have never myself owned as much as a cabover camper; but I am glad to read that the new generation of RVers are not rolling over.

There is something quintessentially American about packing up and hitting the high road, and I applaud those who understand and enliven the spirit of American freedom in this way.

5 posted on 07/06/2008 12:37:10 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: peggybac
I see A-B-C-T-X in our future.
6 posted on 07/06/2008 12:40:12 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: peggybac

I’ve often wished I had the time and money to take a year and travel across the country in an RV. The idea of moving from place to place on my schedule and whims is very appealing. More power to them.


7 posted on 07/06/2008 12:41:11 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: peggybac

I like these RV owners attitude. So what of the gas price has gone up, keep RV’ing. Why did you work for anyway, to enjoy times like this. Go RV’ing!


8 posted on 07/06/2008 12:41:51 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: peggybac
Very interesting.

As if anyone need justify how they spend their money....

..especially considering most, if not all of these folks worked hard, saved, paid their taxes and now enjoy a bit of retirement...

A lot of these comments look like plain ole class envy.

Also...a different perspective...My uncle & wife worked hard, saved, paid their taxes...

..retired, bought an rv, and spent the next 10 years traveling from place to place with a ministry that repairs orphanages, churches, church camps, etc.
They painted, cooked, did electrical work, etc.

So, even though it's none of anyone's business WHAT they did with their RV, criticism is misplaced in any case.

9 posted on 07/06/2008 12:42:35 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: peggybac

DH is on the road today to go up to the Apostle Islands for some camping and sailing w/some buddies. He called to say he is not seeing as much traffic as usual and he only saw one RV, which is also unusual.

He opted to take the Focus and tent camp, instead of the van, in which he could also sleep, so they are all chipping in on a charter, which is cheaper than hauling sailboats 600 miles round trip.

I am spending my gas money to heat the pool and decided it was a good trade off, since the last fill cost me $2.30/gallon and the winter cap is $2.54.

We Americans are resourceful, we can do the math and we are not going to sit around with our thumbs up because Congress is full of evil idiots.


10 posted on 07/06/2008 12:42:37 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Capitalism is what happens when governments get out of the way.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I’m just waiting for the enviro extremists to start demonizing people who drive RVs.

I'm just waiting for the environazis to start going after any and all forms of motor sports...I mean, I can't think of a more frivolous way of producing CO2 than a NASCAR race.
11 posted on 07/06/2008 12:44:20 PM PDT by rottndog (Globull Warming "Science" = garbage in, gospel out.)
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To: peggybac

Most of those comments are incredible. Envy, hate, disrespect for people who’ve actually sacrificed and worked their butts off.


12 posted on 07/06/2008 12:44:36 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: peggybac
Good for them!!!! A lot of people gave me grief when I recently got rid of my V4 Sentra for a V8 Explorer.

Why did I do it? Because I got a great deal on it and I've always wanted an SUV. Yes, my BB (beautiful beast) likes to eat gas much more than my Sentra, but I don't care.

I don't have a lot of splurges in life and my SUV was one I wanted for a long time.

I LOVE my beast and couldn't be happier!!!!

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Got my "Rush Babe On Board" and wear it proudly!!!

13 posted on 07/06/2008 12:46:21 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; peggybac
I’m just waiting for the enviro extremists to start demonizing people who drive RVs.

One of the comments was "I love the smell of RVs burning."

14 posted on 07/06/2008 12:46:24 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

Agree.....It’s refreshing/encouraging to read the comments on FR...!!


15 posted on 07/06/2008 12:46:34 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Wow! I didn’t know the 2216 models were out already!


16 posted on 07/06/2008 12:52:25 PM PDT by Nik Naym (If Republicans are your problem, Democrats aren't the answer!)
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To: NoGrayZone

The price of SUVs are dropping, I’m hoping to pick one up soon also. Good luck.


17 posted on 07/06/2008 12:52:44 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: peggybac

We have a pop up. We’ve rented RVs before and they are really nice in a lot of ways but we don’t need the TV and air conditioning (although it’s nice for older people who do) and so I’m happy with my own bed and a bath room at hand. I don’t cook much either way. We get about 25 miles/gal when we pull with our Honda Odyssey. We hope to do more following of our son to blue grass festivals. We’re going to Rocky Grass this month. Any other freepers out there going?


18 posted on 07/06/2008 12:54:20 PM PDT by Mercat (For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.)
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To: Nik Naym

Hahahaha!!!! I know I know, I’ve corrected that since!


19 posted on 07/06/2008 12:58:27 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: peggybac

I just bought a used Class A... Got a great deal on it. I’m thinking of converting it to burn coal or wood chips.


20 posted on 07/06/2008 12:59:22 PM PDT by babygene (This Government no longer works to secure our freedoms and provide for our common defense.)
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To: stevio

They keep saying you can get an SUV for nothing, but I’m still looking (habit)and I don’t see the “drop off” the libs are screaming about.

Good luck getting your SUV, they are GRAND!!!!


21 posted on 07/06/2008 1:00:05 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: Nik Naym

Really! Do as you please if you can afford it.

A car guy on the radio yesterday pointed out that deales have a lot of those certified used SUV’s around now because people are trading them in and you can get great deals on them.

People need to figure stuff out and not panic. If you can save 10,000 on a nice, comfortable SUV and pay maybe 3,000 more a year in gas prices ...

well, I call that a bargain.


22 posted on 07/06/2008 1:00:56 PM PDT by altura (McCain for President - or, as I call it, NOBama.)
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To: peggybac

If only there was a way to make miniature nuclear-powered engines, for RVs, boats, tactor-trailers, trucks, busses, and limos. Cars and light trucks could still use gasoline. The price of gas would easily be cut in half.


23 posted on 07/06/2008 1:02:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: Mercat

My dream is to RV cross country (with the man driving of course. It would help if I actually got a man.....). I must say, I am a tad bit envious of you. I’ll get there eventually, but my goodness, I want it now!


24 posted on 07/06/2008 1:03:09 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: Mercat

I just looked up Rocky Grass and HOW FUN DOES IT LOOK!!! Have a great time.


25 posted on 07/06/2008 1:03:45 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: buccaneer81

I just finished reading them and had to comment. Their life is one big bowl of misery. Thank the Good Lord I’m not a lib!


26 posted on 07/06/2008 1:04:35 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I’ve given up finding a man. I’ve come to believe I’ll be single the rest of my life. It sucks.


27 posted on 07/06/2008 1:08:02 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: NoGrayZone

LOL, I saw your comments. I hope other remark as well.


28 posted on 07/06/2008 1:09:14 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: peggybac
Same here. I wish there were more single Conservative men available for us out there.

This metro-sexual crap has really put a “bee in my bonnet”. I'M THE GIRL!!!!

29 posted on 07/06/2008 1:10:27 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
There is something quintessentially American about packing up and hitting the high road, and I applaud those who understand and enliven the spirit of American freedom in this way.

You said it. I contemplated on buying a RoadTrek and living out of it when I get older.

30 posted on 07/06/2008 1:14:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I did exactly that in 1970 for three months when Gas was 27 cents a gallon and a motel was six bucks.Campgrounds were virtually free.


31 posted on 07/06/2008 1:16:00 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Nik Naym

My feelings exactly!


32 posted on 07/06/2008 1:17:47 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: babygene

Hope you have may good miles in your “A.”
Maybe I’ll “C” you out there! (We are in a Class C)
The libtards won’t like it much, but hey, they don’t like anything anyway....the poor miserable b@$$t@*D$


33 posted on 07/06/2008 1:17:57 PM PDT by WeldonsRight (Right and (apparently) wrong at the same time)
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To: peggybac
“We don’t see that the price of fuel will have any substantial impact on how much we travel in our motor home,” said Virg, whose Winnebago averages between eight and 10 miles per gallon

Uh huh...That's why a good friend of mine that owns a rather large RV rental yard is down about 30 percent this year from last.

34 posted on 07/06/2008 1:18:09 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: peggybac
It's their money. They aren't hurting anybody.

In a free country, that means it's nobody else's business!

35 posted on 07/06/2008 1:26:42 PM PDT by joe.fralick
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You said it. I contemplated on buying a RoadTrek and living out of it when I get older.

Size does matter. I have owned tents to a 38 Ft Class A. I presently have a washer/dryer, icemaker, satellite-driven flat panel TVs, and go anywhere. Class B are fine for traveling, but lengthy stays are better with space. Add to the mix, that you can buy a big one for the price of a RoadTrek. I only spend 10-15 days a year actually driving it. I arrive at my destination, hit the levelers, and turn on the TV. I love the recliners...

I spend 6 months on the road. RV parks are clean, wholesome, and cheap. You meet some of the nicest people in the world, and spend time learning from others. For $3-500 per month, you get everything you need to live comfortably (Power, cable, water, sewer, swimming pools, etc), except food and a roof. I drag an older Windstar to wander about. Spot looks cool with the T-tops out, but the van keeps him from jumping and running!

My dog, Spot and "Baby"..

36 posted on 07/06/2008 1:27:36 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I’m just waiting for the enviro extremists to start demonizing people who drive RVs. Among other things, they will point to low gas mileage and the sewage clean outs and say that these vehicles are too polluting. Not saying I agree with that, but that could happen. Yep, gotta be “green” at all costs to the extremists in the environmental movement.

Those people would all have strokes if they came down to our local marina and saw all the gas-guzzlers on the water!

37 posted on 07/06/2008 1:34:54 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: peggybac; NoGrayZone
I’ve given up finding a man. I’ve come to believe I’ll be single the rest of my life. It sucks.

I am a single guy. From our point of view, a man living with a woman isn't all it's cracked up to be... but there are a few exceptions.

Why do you think we used to have so many explorers? There was no "office" whereby to escape...

38 posted on 07/06/2008 1:39:29 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: peggybac; NoGrayZone

BTW, RV makes excellent man-cave!


39 posted on 07/06/2008 1:40:26 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker

Okay you, calm your pits (j/k)!!! I was just stating there aren’t many Conservatives guys out there for us single girls.

Also just saying, it seems like “manhood” has been thrown out the window.

I like REAL men, a man’s man. There are very few left out there.


40 posted on 07/06/2008 1:44:37 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I don’t think we’ve seen the bottom yet either. But at some point you have to feel comfortable you’ve found the right vehicle at your price.


41 posted on 07/06/2008 1:52:03 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: NoGrayZone
I like REAL men, a man’s man. There are very few left out there.

Public schools and "Family" Courts are achieving their goals.

42 posted on 07/06/2008 1:52:51 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

That’s a damn shame. God made us different for a reason, for both “sides” to become one whole.

That can’t happen if both “sides” are the same.

Just depressed myself.....I shall grab a glass of wine.


43 posted on 07/06/2008 1:56:27 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone
My dream is to RV cross country...

I would really enjoy doing that too. For the time being, I would like to get a lightweight travel trailer and see how that goes.

44 posted on 07/06/2008 2:03:25 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: Mercat
that sounds like fun.....I hope we get to travel if we ever get to retirement....just driving in North America....ALaska.....Canada....the lower 48 is all I really want to do...my husband and I are just simpletons because we love the trees, the valleys, the wildlife including the birds, flea markets, garage sales, interesting cafe's, music, etc etc....the road was made for us...

on a dissenting note however...one of the comments made on the KC Star discussion board has some weight...

.there have been generations that just hit the lotto when it came to luck....and the people born just before,during, or right after WW2 have hit the jackpot....good times following the war, stable families, opportunities and jobs with long standing companies that gave a great pension so you could retire at 55...

compared to people born a little later....big time pensions gone as well as retirement dreams because big time corporate America has retreated....

higher SS taxes, higher income and propterty taxes, no pensions or small reduced pensions, and now a stinking stock market....

some people did win the Lotto and some got stuck paying it off....

45 posted on 07/06/2008 2:10:21 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My wife and I (and the dogs) took a few years off and traveled the country. We still have the travel trailer and hope to get on the road again when our son is more recovered from his vehicle accident. Even with the higher cost of gas, it is still a good life on the road. You travel less distance and spend more time in camps. Gas would have to rise several times the current price to drive all the RV-ers out. (Of course the prices now will hit the very low income people and that is a shame. If our country would drill and refine we would see prices drop or at least rise less rapidly.)

As for the environmentalists telling us what we can and can’t do, I intend to take the same attitude that I do about firearms. They will have to pry my gun out of one hand and my other hand from the wheel. We have already given up so much freedom, the line must be drawn somewhere.


46 posted on 07/06/2008 2:10:25 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer and teacher)
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To: NoGrayZone
"My dream is to RV cross country (with the man driving of course. It would help if I actually got a man.....). "

folks, we get complainers on FR all the time about men, about women..especially about women.....

but the absolute truth is life is easier, more fun, more fulfilling with a companion....so here's hoping you find someone for your own....there are good men out there........

but there are clubs where single women..some never married and others who are widowed...who do travel extensively in groups with RV's ....

47 posted on 07/06/2008 2:15:18 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Nik Naym
They don’t need to justify it. If they can pay the price for the fuel they can do what they want with it.

Good retort! I was just going to say the same thing. The Enviro-nuts militating ends at the muzzle of my AR-15. Time to bear down on these fascists, I'm of the older generation but I sure read some excellent comments and thinking from our younger generations on this forum 'an GOOD ON YOU!!

48 posted on 07/06/2008 2:22:15 PM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: peggybac
Here's our rig:

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We were going to drive out west this fall (RT would have been about 5600 miles) but instead we decided to stay on the east coast and hop around to some state parks in the Blue Ridge Mtns. ($20 a night), then down to the Smokies ($24 a night with full hookups and cable TV) for three weeks total trip time.

We'll do about 1400 miles RT on this trip. We prepare almost all our own meals so don't count that any extra cost than we would have at home. Even with the cost of gas, we're ahead of the game. It works out to about $55/day for our vacation for the both of us for gas and lodging. The only way you could do the same trip for cheaper is if you drove an economical car and tent camped along the way.

With our rig, we have most of the conveniences of home including internet access because we have a Verizon Aircard with an antenna booster for the more remote areas. And you don't have to live out of a suitcase or set up camp. You just pull in and plug in your power cord and hook up your water line. Then dump your tanks when you leave. If you had a satellite TV set up, which we don't at this point, you'd really have it all.

It really is the way to travel, but for the time being, we'll stick close to home to save money on gas.

Lest you think we're gas hogs, both of us work at home and we put only about 15,000 total miles on both our cars combined per year. People who commute can put more mileage than that on one car alone.

49 posted on 07/06/2008 2:22:37 PM PDT by randita
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To: cherry
I had no idea there were any such clubs. But, my propblem (I did say MY problem) is that I've always imagined doing it with my man.

"we get complainers on FR all the time about men,"

I wasn't complaining about men, just the lack of real ones.

50 posted on 07/06/2008 2:24:09 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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