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Study: Military Gays Don't Undermine Unit Cohesion (MEGA-BARF ALERT)
WJLA News ^ | 7/7/2008

Posted on 07/07/2008 8:16:52 PM PDT by markomalley

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Three lib/dem general officers conducting a study for a gay advocacy group. Yup...a real legitimate study there folks.

Unfortunately, that's NOT the way it's going to be spun.

(The funny part about it is that the logistics of housing homosexual and heterosexual enlisted personnel would be unmanageable and un-affordable...no matter what your opinion of gays is...all I can say is that I sure am glad that I'm retired and won't have to deal with this mess)

1 posted on 07/07/2008 8:16:53 PM PDT by markomalley
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The problem here is generals are far removed from the possible AIDS tainted blood that flys on the battlefield and infects straight patriots.


2 posted on 07/07/2008 8:20:59 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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My dissertation advisor, generally a man of the left, nonetheless liked to discomfit folks advocating allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military by asking “would you want to serve on a submarine with one?”

The awkward silence that usually followed adequately made the point of why allowing open homosexuals to serve in the military would be a problem for morale and unit cohesion.


3 posted on 07/07/2008 8:22:40 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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4 posted on 07/07/2008 8:23:47 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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Let them say whatever they will. Anyone with any common sense knows, whther it's heterosexual or gay, that you cannot have the Sergeant lvoing one of the squad members romantically. Or an officer doing the same or vice-versa.

Such relationships will impact decision making as emotions come into play with command decisions.

Such activity will not be lost on other members of the team, squad, platoon, company, etc. and will effect unit cohesion.

5 posted on 07/07/2008 8:24:39 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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20 retired Army SGT here that call this so called study bs.

They never bother to ask the troops who have to live with each other, shower together...ect!!!

NO STRAIGHT SOLDIER wants a GAY roommate its as simple as that.

the military is not a social club...it has one purpose:

TO GO PLACES AND BLOW THINGS UP AND KILL THE ENEMY...PERIOD!


6 posted on 07/07/2008 8:25:19 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: markomalley

“Rule One...”


7 posted on 07/07/2008 8:25:37 PM PDT by RichInOC ("...NO POOFTERS!")
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20 YEAR retired Army SGT here that call this so called study bs.

They never bother to ask the troops who have to live with each other, shower together...ect!!!

NO STRAIGHT SOLDIER wants a GAY roommate its as simple as that.

the military is not a social club...it has one purpose:

TO GO PLACES AND BLOW THINGS UP AND KILL THE ENEMY...PERIOD!


8 posted on 07/07/2008 8:26:21 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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Supporters of the ban contend there is still no empirical evidence that allowing gays to serve openly won't hurt combat effectiveness.

Well then, perhaps they should just let active service members have a vote and then be done with it?

9 posted on 07/07/2008 8:29:37 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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It may not be a legit study, but I work with college students — so people of military age — and they are exceedingly unfazed by people’s sexual orientation, so I would tend to agree with the results of the study.


10 posted on 07/07/2008 8:30:21 PM PDT by cammie
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But as you said, that’s a heterosexual issue as well - having a romantic assignation within the squad will effect moral whether it’s guy-girl or guy-guy. So where does that put us? No women in the military either?


11 posted on 07/07/2008 8:32:35 PM PDT by cammie
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“Michael D. Palm was a gifted educator, musician, athlete, business person, and dear friend to all who knew him. Michael, a staunch supporter of civil rights in the gay community, died of complications from AIDS in Telluride in August 1998. Michael's values reflect those of the Center named in his honor - intellectual curiosity and service.”
12 posted on 07/07/2008 8:32:35 PM PDT by Ratblaster ( Obama's house, Rezko's yard)
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The problem here is generals are far removed from the possible AIDS tainted blood that flys on the battlefield and infects straight patriots. Right, 'cause it's impossible there are heterosexual soldiers out there with HIV infection...
13 posted on 07/07/2008 8:34:24 PM PDT by cammie
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Its going to be a different camaraderie than the one I knew.


14 posted on 07/07/2008 8:35:18 PM PDT by Jay Howard Smith (Retired(25yrNCO)Military)
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Gays in the military brings up a new meaning for “rear guard”


15 posted on 07/07/2008 8:37:41 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Free the Refineries! - H.R. 2279 Must Become Law!)
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I have no problem with that

I think women in combat positions in the military is a bad idea.


16 posted on 07/07/2008 8:38:25 PM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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Study: Military Gays Don't Undermine Unit Cohesion

I suppose it depends on how you define "cohesion"...

17 posted on 07/07/2008 8:39:56 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Seriously, is freedom so complicated?)
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Right, 'cause it's impossible there are heterosexual soldiers out there with HIV infection...

Impossible? No. Possibilities are not the issue. The issue is the odds...

18 posted on 07/07/2008 8:41:44 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Seriously, is freedom so complicated?)
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I do not believe they should be in combat, either in the field, or on board ships that sail into harms way.


19 posted on 07/07/2008 8:44:21 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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This is just the thin edge of the wedge. These so-called studies want to convince everyone things won’t change day one - but no one considers what will happen when they start having gay baracks, gay Army marriages, gay pride celebrations, gay days, etc... as part of the “new” Army.


20 posted on 07/07/2008 8:44:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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