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'Gay' man sues Bible publishers
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 8, 2008 | WND

Posted on 07/09/2008 10:14:10 AM PDT by driftdiver

A homosexual man is suing two major Christian publishers for violating his constitutional rights and causing emotional pain, because the Bible they publish refers to homosexuality as a sin.

Bradley LaShawn Fowler, 39, of Canton, Mich., is seeking $60 million from Zondervan and another $10 million from Thomas Nelson Publishing in lawsuits filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, the Grand Rapids Press reported.

Fowler filed his claim against Grand Rapids-based Zondervan Monday, alleging its Bibles' references to homosexuality as a sin have made him an outcast from his family and contributed to physical discomfort and periods of "demoralization, chaos and bewilderment," the paper said.

He filed suit against Tennessee publisher Thomas Nelson in June.

Zondervan says that even if Fowler's claim is credible, he's suing the wrong party. A company spokesman told WOOD-TV in Grand Rapids that Zondervan doesn't translate the Bible or own the copyright for any of the translations but relies, instead, on the "scholarly judgment of credible translation committees."

Yesterday, U.S. District Judge Julian Abele Cook Jr. refused to appoint an attorney to represent Fowler in the Thomas Nelson case, saying the court "has some very genuine concerns about the nature and efficacy of these claims."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bible; firstamendment; freespeech; homosexual; homosexualagenda; lawsuit; nuisancesuit; publishing; thomasnelson; zondervan
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Why am I not surprised.
1 posted on 07/09/2008 10:14:10 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

So can we now all sue the NYT for calling conservative evil for the last 50 years?


2 posted on 07/09/2008 10:15:24 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: driftdiver

Sounds more like he’s going through The Change.


3 posted on 07/09/2008 10:16:36 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: driftdiver
How come I don't FORCE myself to read or even want homosexual advocation trash around me and this homosexual doesn't want me to read my Bible?

Could it be that the LEFT is intolerant?

He doesn't have to read the Bible just like I do NOT read homosexual propaganda.

4 posted on 07/09/2008 10:17:14 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: driftdiver

I wonder what “constitutional right” he feels has been violated.


5 posted on 07/09/2008 10:17:35 AM PDT by kc8ukw
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To: driftdiver

Sooooooooooooo, basically he’s suing God right?


6 posted on 07/09/2008 10:18:11 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Marriage=1 man+1 woman! Vote "YES" on Prop 8, amend the Calif. State Constitution this November.)
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To: driftdiver

Does he plan on naming “God” as a co-respondent?


7 posted on 07/09/2008 10:18:16 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: driftdiver

Oh, silly me.

I’m supposed to put my beliefs aside because they

HURT HIS PERVERTED FEELINGS.


8 posted on 07/09/2008 10:18:45 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: driftdiver

“contributed to physical discomfort....”

maybe something else did that?


9 posted on 07/09/2008 10:18:51 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: driftdiver

I really expected this to be from Scrappleface.


10 posted on 07/09/2008 10:19:05 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: driftdiver
Hey Bradley,
Take two cyanide capsules and call me in the morning.
11 posted on 07/09/2008 10:19:13 AM PDT by scooter2 (The greatest threat to the security of the United States is the Democratic Party.)
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To: nmh

‘He doesn’t have to read the Bible just like I do NOT read homosexual propaganda. ‘

Your children are already being forced to read their propaganda in public schools.


12 posted on 07/09/2008 10:19:14 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
Gee, big surprise, here.
I just have one question: who publishes the koran?

Wonder why he's never read that one?

: )

13 posted on 07/09/2008 10:20:30 AM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: driftdiver

Why is this not even tossed out, and yet the court is concerned about “has some very genuine concerns about the nature and efficacy of these claims.”

PERPOSTEROIUS!


14 posted on 07/09/2008 10:20:52 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("...If it moves, tax it, if it moves faster, regulate it, if it stops, subsidies it.")
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To: driftdiver
contributed to physical discomfort and periods of "demoralization, chaos and bewilderment,"

A hilariously ironic statement considering, er, uh...never mind.

15 posted on 07/09/2008 10:21:11 AM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Publius6961
Gee, big surprise, here. I just have one question: who publishes the koran? Wonder why he's never read that one?

Doesn't the Koran give the official "Okey Dokey" for men to bugger little boys?

16 posted on 07/09/2008 10:21:33 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: driftdiver

>> Fowler filed his claim against Grand Rapids-based Zondervan Monday, alleging its Bibles’ references to homosexuality as a sin have made him an outcast from his family and contributed to physical discomfort and periods of “demoralization, chaos and bewilderment,” the paper said.

Because we all recall that segment of the Constitution which forbids the fostering of “physical discomfort [...] demoralization, chaos and bewilderment.” Additionally, we have the popular tort law provision which prohibits the creation of family ostracism.

And, everyone also recalls the repeal of the “free expression” clause which, if only still present, would have protected these purveyors of hate speech.

Idiot.

H


17 posted on 07/09/2008 10:22:07 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor (Jack Bauer for President '08 -- All the world's terrorists hate him. Sounds like a fair fight.)
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To: grellis

MI ping.

donno what bible he’s reading, mine doesn’t call homosexuality a sin.

it calls it an abomination.


18 posted on 07/09/2008 10:23:50 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: SampleMan
If the guy wins we can.

(He won't)

19 posted on 07/09/2008 10:24:53 AM PDT by cdbull23 (What's going on in my brain? Check it out: cainsbrain.blogspot.com)
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To: driftdiver

Unfortunately this dude might get a sympathetic jury. Everyone is in so much emotionl distress (pity, pity, pity). Tell this idiot to get a life. I wonder if the boy is either in bankruptcy or has just maxed out all his credit cards. That would cause me more emotional pain than what the Bible says.


20 posted on 07/09/2008 10:25:07 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (VOTE SOCIALIST VOTE OBAMA (that's what he is, isn't he?))
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To: driftdiver
So there are less than 1% homosexuals that thing they are superior and are offended by the most popular book ever. Maybe the regular people should sue the minority for horrid sexual practices that disgust the majority.
21 posted on 07/09/2008 10:25:25 AM PDT by mountainlion
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To: driftdiver

A judge should throw this out immediately. This suit does not have any standing. The lawyers filing this suit should be ashamed.


22 posted on 07/09/2008 10:26:28 AM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: kc8ukw

He may feel that he is the butt of jokes..


23 posted on 07/09/2008 10:26:37 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Publius6961

If he read the Koran, he’d really be in emotional pain. And then, if he’s a real PC kind of guy (or a secret masochist) he might like it.


24 posted on 07/09/2008 10:26:44 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (VOTE SOCIALIST VOTE OBAMA (that's what he is, isn't he?))
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To: sheik yerbouty

I wonder what kind of jokes his butt has gone through?


25 posted on 07/09/2008 10:27:55 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (VOTE SOCIALIST VOTE OBAMA (that's what he is, isn't he?))
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To: sheik yerbouty

Does this fudge make my butt look big?


26 posted on 07/09/2008 10:28:40 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: driftdiver

Just more assurance that anyone can file a lawsuit.

Winning is a whole other thing.


27 posted on 07/09/2008 10:28:41 AM PDT by DaGman
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To: driftdiver

Bwahahahahahahahaha - what a maroon!! He should sue God, not the publishers. The ‘trial’ should last about 30 seconds. That’s about how long it should take for the bailiff to call the court into session, get everybody seated and have the judge declare that the plaintiff is an idiot and his case dismissed.

He should also have to pay all the court costs - THAT will cause him even more pain!!


28 posted on 07/09/2008 10:28:53 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: driftdiver

As laughable as this lawsuit is now, it is a glimpse of what is yet to come once the institution of marriage has been totally degraded and belittled by this movement. Religions that criticize this ‘lifestyle’ will certainly be their next target. The agenda began with tolerance, moved on to accpetance, and will next have to be celebrated and glorified.


29 posted on 07/09/2008 10:29:56 AM PDT by Spok
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To: driftdiver

The liberal establishment continues to promote homosexuality and attack Christianity. Our religious freedom is being taken away and homosexuality is being pushed to our children.


30 posted on 07/09/2008 10:30:17 AM PDT by detective
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To: driftdiver

If this guy can sue, so can I. There’s plenty of stuff in the Bible against me, too.


31 posted on 07/09/2008 10:30:27 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the Land unto all the Inhabitants thereof)
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To: driftdiver
“Fowler filed his claim against Grand Rapids-based Zondervan Monday, alleging its Bibles’ references to homosexuality as a sin have made him an outcast from his family and contributed to physical discomfort and periods of ‘demoralization, chaos and bewilderment,’ the paper said.”

Why doesn't he sue his family? They seem to be the ones causing this guy his angst. Service of Process would be so much easier, because last I heard St. Peter's and St. Paul's heads are buried beneath St. Peters Basilica in Rome, and I sincerely doubt the Swiss Guard will allow anyone to drop a subpoena.

Similarly, I'm thinking Moses and the authors of the Torah are going to be truly difficult to tag. I could be wrong, however.

32 posted on 07/09/2008 10:36:41 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: driftdiver

So is he going to call Leviticus to the stand?


33 posted on 07/09/2008 10:37:52 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Paige

He’s representing himself because he couldn’t find a lawyer dumb enough to take it.


34 posted on 07/09/2008 10:38:12 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: driftdiver
If that is the case, then everyone can sue the Bible publishers...”for all have sinned” (Rom 3;23)....
.....
....what a liberal idiot
35 posted on 07/09/2008 10:38:14 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: driftdiver

This homo must think he lives in Canada...where their courts take an opposing stance against the Bible. Especially the Bible’s denunciation of homosexuality.

Let’s hope that the Michigan courts, with close proximity to Canada, doesn’t follow Canada’s lead.


36 posted on 07/09/2008 10:38:56 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: fightinbluhen51; Paige

As I read the article, the judge is expressing his opinion that Fowler’s claims are dubious and not worthy of being pursued, at least in the one case. That is why he refused to grant a court-appointed attorney for Fowler. Fowler is representing himself in both suits but it appears that he made a request in his filings for have a taxpayer-funded attorney appointed to represent him. Since the case was just filed, it is too early for the judge to dismiss if the opposing parties haven’t had time to present their request and arguments for dismissal and then Fowler has a right to file arguments against the publishing company arguments. It takes time but don’t be surprised if the case is dismissed, with prejudice hopefully, within the next few weeks. I suspect that the story is going public right now in Fowler’s hope that some group like the ACLU will take the case for him (though I doubt the ACLU would even touch this one).


37 posted on 07/09/2008 10:40:19 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: driftdiver
A homosexual man is suing two major Christian publishers...

Fixed

38 posted on 07/09/2008 10:40:33 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (Knowbama. Nobama)
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To: Paige

I think it said he is representing himself. probably couldn’t get a lawyer to take the case. I’m surprised the ACLU wouldn’t help but then they already have a plan and this is showing their cards.


39 posted on 07/09/2008 10:43:37 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

“Yesterday, U.S. District Judge Julian Abele Cook Jr. refused to appoint an attorney to represent Fowler”

I thought you only got a free appointed lawyer for defensein you cannot afford one. Does this me we give free lawyers to people to sue private companies on silly-ness issues?


40 posted on 07/09/2008 10:44:40 AM PDT by edcoil
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To: driftdiver

Silly pillow-biter....


41 posted on 07/09/2008 10:44:55 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Obama is the feces created when shame eats too much stupidity.)
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To: grellis

“Bradley LaShawn Fowler, 39, of Canton, Mich., is seeking $60 million from Zondervan and another $10 million from Thomas Nelson Publishing in lawsuits filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, the Grand Rapids Press reported.”

Sort of a Michigan ping....


42 posted on 07/09/2008 10:46:36 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: driftdiver

If ever there was a clear cut case for a loser pays system, this is it. Especially considering this bozo wanted a taxpayer funded atty.


43 posted on 07/09/2008 10:46:39 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: caseinpoint
I suspect that the story is going public right now in Fowler’s hope that some group like the ACLU will take the case for him (though I doubt the ACLU would even touch this one).

I wouldn't be too sure about that. This is just exactly the kind of case the ACLU would love to win. Hopefully though, the case will get thrown out.

44 posted on 07/09/2008 10:49:41 AM PDT by mtg
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To: sasportas

“Let’s hope that the Michigan courts, with close proximity to Canada, doesn’t follow Canada’s lead.”

Don’t forget our Canadian Socialist Governor.


45 posted on 07/09/2008 10:51:14 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: driftdiver
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Zondervan says that even if Fowler's claim is credible, he's suing the wrong party. A company spokesman told WOOD-TV in Grand Rapids that Zondervan doesn't translate the Bible or own the copyright for any of the translations but relies, instead, on the “scholarly judgment of credible translation committees.”

Yesterday, U.S. District Judge Julian Abele Cook Jr. refused to appoint an attorney to represent Fowler ...
<<

It appears that Zondervan is trying to pass the buck to the committee of academics who translated the Hebrew and Greek into English.

It also appears that the Fowler has asked the taxpayers to pay for his legal team.

I hope that common sense prevails with the judge so that the suit is dismissed as being without standing. Academic integrity and the ability to freely translate ancient writings, not to mention to create new works of opinion and commentary are at stake here.

Next: will Fowler attempt to ban all English Bibles he does not approve of? Or maybe he will just settle for being able to muzzle ministers who read the passages in question aloud to the public.

Let me suggest that Fowler would really be better off to consider that maybe God loves him so much that He has outlined behavior that is so damaging to his physical and spiritual wellbeing that it must be forbidden.

Moreover, unless and until such people take serious heed to God's warning, He cannot grant them salvation. Let Fowler realize that when Jesus is recorded as saying in Revelation 22 verse 15 that those who practice homosexuality (”dogs”) will not be allowed into the Holy City (a metaphor for salvation), it is for a very good reason.

(now also note that socialists won't be allowed in either, for socialists are liars about economic and moral truths)

46 posted on 07/09/2008 10:51:47 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: driftdiver

So, nobody thought homosexualism was sinful until Zondervan published its editions?


47 posted on 07/09/2008 10:55:07 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: driftdiver

Exactly how does a private publishing entity violate Constitutional rights?


48 posted on 07/09/2008 10:56:06 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: Alouette

He must have missed what Blackstone had to say about it.


49 posted on 07/09/2008 11:02:59 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: driftdiver

At least he admits the Bible says that Homosexuality is a sin. Too many people, including leaders of supposedly Christian churches, say that homosexuality is no sin, and we just don’t know how to interpret scripture — and that we should instead accept their authority as to how to interpret that scripture.


50 posted on 07/09/2008 11:03:35 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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