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Reid rejects Bush call to lift drilling moratorium (Rats want higher gas prices!)
Reuters ^ | 7/14/2008 | Reuters

Posted on 07/14/2008 2:23:41 PM PDT by tobyhill

WASHINGTON, July 14 (Reuters) - U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, on Monday rejected a call by U.S. President George W. Bush to lift a moratorium on offshore oil drilling.

Bush announced on Monday that he lifted the executive branch's restriction on offshore exploration, saying only Congress stood in the way of opening up America's untapped oil riches.

(Excerpt) Read more at uk.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
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To: mouse1

Thanks, I did.


151 posted on 07/15/2008 7:45:13 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: tobyhill

FR has taught me more than anything else, that we have a bunch of do nothing politicians running this country.

I think Bush had the makings of being a great president, but clearly the deomcrats have worked over time to undermine our economy and the war effort, with the objective that everything seems to be going to hell in a hand bag, so the dumb@ss public will be inclined to vote for the democrats...

There are a few idiot republicans too. John Warner wants to lower the speed limit to 55. We should raise it to 75.


152 posted on 07/15/2008 8:07:12 AM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be at least a "Jackie Robinson.")
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To: cake_crumb

According to her the “birds, dolphins, seals and other marine animals” are more important than whether the public can afford to drive to work!

The 1969 oil spill off Santa Barbara was 40 years ago! I guess she doesn’t realize just because Congress is stuck in the dark ages the rest of the country has improved technology including drilling for oil.

40 YEARS AGO there was an oil spill! That is the reason we can’t drill today?!!!


153 posted on 07/15/2008 8:14:55 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
"40 YEARS AGO there was an oil spill! That is the reason we can’t drill today?!!!"

Apparently.

You'll recall we were told to forget 9/11 a while the towers were still smoldering, and "begin the healing". Democrats need to take their own advice.

154 posted on 07/15/2008 8:20:52 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: cake_crumb
"40 YEARS AGO there was an oil spill! That is the reason we can’t drill today?!!!"

Of course. 40 years ago there was a house fire, we banned those. Wasn't there an assassiation or two? We banned politicians. I think there might have been a few bank failures along the way, too. Banks? Banned.

Of course, the real reason dems and liberals at large oppose drilling is simple. What liberals truly oppose is personal success, since their Marxist system feeds off of popular discontent.

155 posted on 07/15/2008 8:27:14 AM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: tobyhill

The people of Nevada need to reject Scary Reid.


156 posted on 07/15/2008 8:34:40 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Hey Dingy hairy reed, how about you and the other MORON dims agreeing to pay 50% more for your fuel? Let the states that allow drilling offshore drop their fuel prices and you make up the difference. Same goes for boxer, the queen of botox pelosi, and fineswine and Kaalleeefornia.


157 posted on 07/15/2008 8:46:39 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for any Democrat from BO on down the ticket is a vote for $10 a gallon gas.)
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To: chatham

So what do these dems want?

We either have to import foreign oil and potentially get in war to secure that oil or we get out of that region and drill for oil here.


158 posted on 07/15/2008 9:08:10 AM PDT by Transformers
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To: tobyhill

Anyone notice that oil is down $10 from todays high? Be interesting to see how this plays out. With any luck, some of the greedy pigs in oil will got to slaughter..


159 posted on 07/15/2008 9:08:59 AM PDT by IamConservative (Character: What you do when no one is looking.)
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To: kittycatonline.com
Exactly. And don't forget all the money they get by terrifying the public.
160 posted on 07/15/2008 9:09:47 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: Uriah_lost

“Our guys need to be hammering the Dems with this. As often as they can get in front of a camera or mic!”

Wake me when the cowardly pussies in the Republican party wake up. The “compassionate conservatism” of the Bushes and others is, and has been a politically damaging soporific.


161 posted on 07/15/2008 9:14:12 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: IamConservative

Drudge has this brainless headline: “OIL PLUNGES BELOW $139...”. Relatively large drop, but a bit over dramatic.


162 posted on 07/15/2008 9:26:01 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: Transformers
So what do these dems want?

Everyone but them to walk. No drilling for oil, no nuclear plants, no coal mining, no, no, no. The party of no, if it means you can make it on your own without their 'help'.

If they would just GET OUT OF THE WAY no one would need their 'help'. They are standing in the way of PROGRESS which is their intention to keep people dependent on them!

163 posted on 07/15/2008 9:53:47 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Salvation

Here’s a form. Give Harry Hell.

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/


164 posted on 07/15/2008 10:01:43 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Don't assume malice for what stupidity can explain.)
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To: EyeGuy
"Wake me when the cowardly pussies in the Republican party wake up."

I take it you're not a Republican.

165 posted on 07/15/2008 10:14:59 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: cake_crumb

When the Republican party returns to its conservative roots, I will be comfortable with calling myself a “Republican” again.


166 posted on 07/15/2008 10:17:41 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy
I have no interest in what Demoncrats or Bushicans have to say. There are lots and lots of oil leases in the USA where no drilling is happening because the multi-nationals don't want to drill. They want the prices higher and higher and higher. What Bush and Congress need to do is compel oil companies to drill on land already leased. And while I never thought I'd say it, as a temporary measure nationalize all multi-national oil operations in the USA, and then privatize it so it can only be American-owned. That is at least an idea. And all of those who know the Demoncrats are up to evil need to wake up and realize that when it comes to oil, the Bush-Republicans are on the opposite face of the same coin of anti-American decision-making. Gasoline will be $7.25 by Christmas. When it hits $6.00 a gallon look for the riots to start in Miami. It is time to vote out all Demoncrats and Republicans -- they don't know the Constitution -- and they are all becoming enemies of the People.
167 posted on 07/15/2008 11:29:59 AM PDT by Siobhan (Restore the Republic. Save the Constitution.)
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To: riri

I live in NorCal and always liked the look of high-tech wind farms on the green hills. However, it you look at how much power they actually generate per acre is it shockingly pathetic. They are also moving machines, subject to heavy weather, sun, vibration and wear and are dangerous and costly to service, making them quite expensive overall.

Worst of all, they tend to kill birds. This means that most of the enviro lobby hates them.

Enviros hate wind and nukes. That leaves solar, and they would oppose turning over significant desert land to that also. This pretty much leaves tiny solar panels on some buildings and conservation as the only solution.

Trust me, we will never “conserve our way” out of this crisis, that is for certain. Most enviro thinking is “feel-good” gestures that accomplish very little.
I’ve used a bit of guerilla tech to cut my personal usage by a third, but it is still 360 kwhrs per month. That is a lot of windmill time.


168 posted on 07/15/2008 11:57:41 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: cake_crumb

We’re not that stupid but Markey is!!!!!!

All of these Demagogues are immensely stupid and vicious, no matter what their degrees may say. They keep wanting shove all kinds of b.s. down our throats and they demand that we like it and ask for more.


169 posted on 07/15/2008 4:14:14 PM PDT by Enchante (BILL AYERS: "Now THESE are the Obamas I knew! Thank you, New Yorker, for showing my real friends!")
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To: SAJ
The older I get, the more I should be highly approbative of an actual occurrence of the ending of Clancy's novel, Debt of Honor.

Damn! You made me dust off my copy and reread the ending!

How frightening and to think it damn near happened on 9-11 and still could, though now it may not really be a tragedy in today's political winds. It would be a shame to lose such a historic building.

170 posted on 07/15/2008 5:38:28 PM PDT by 7mmMag@LeftCoast (The DNC and Rino's: they put the CON into congress everyday.)
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To: mouse1

I have used this link to send in my name on a petition to start drilling now. If it is something that suits you please sign it and keep it going so that we can be counted.

http://www.americansolutions.com/


171 posted on 07/15/2008 5:41:55 PM PDT by Munz (Infiltrate Interrogate Eradicate NEXT!)
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To: EyeGuy
When the Republican party returns to its conservative roots, I will be comfortable with calling myself a “Republican” again.

I must say I'm with Eyeguy.

172 posted on 07/15/2008 5:53:14 PM PDT by 7mmMag@LeftCoast (The DNC and Rino's: they put the CON into congress everyday.)
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To: Siobhan
I have no interest in what Demoncrats or Bushicans have to say. There are lots and lots of oil leases in the USA where no drilling is happening because the multi-nationals don't want to drill. They want the prices higher and higher and higher. What Bush and Congress need to do is compel oil companies to drill on land already leased. And while I never thought I'd say it, as a temporary measure nationalize all multi-national oil operations in the USA, and then privatize it so it can only be American-owned. That is at least an idea. And all of those who know the Demoncrats are up to evil need to wake up and realize that when it comes to oil, the Bush-Republicans are on the opposite face of the same coin of anti-American decision-making. Gasoline will be $7.25 by Christmas. When it hits $6.00 a gallon look for the riots to start in Miami. It is time to vote out all Demoncrats and Republicans -- they don't know the Constitution -- and they are all becoming enemies of the People.

Though I do pretty much find your last sentence spot on. I must disagree with the "oil lease" premise of your post.

Those so called oil leases are in fact leases to EXPLORE for oil that might be there, not to extract known reserves. Understanding the first part enlightens us even more when we know that over 80% of those so-called oil leases have already been explored and found wanting.

No one in the capital market place wants higher costs, that is just stupid and leads to bankruptcy. Only socialists WANT higher costs, because it drives the economy into recession, at worst, depression and makes ripe conditions for their marxist revolution.

173 posted on 07/15/2008 6:00:24 PM PDT by 7mmMag@LeftCoast (The DNC and Rino's: they put the CON into congress everyday.)
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

Well said.


174 posted on 07/15/2008 6:03:19 PM PDT by twntaipan (NOBAMA! Say No to B.O.!)
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To: twntaipan
The very first book I was given to read by my grandmother, whom worked for Dow Jones, was Das Kapital, followed by The Communist Manifesto. Even though I was only 10 years old she was adamant that I learn who the real enemy is.

God bless her soul.

175 posted on 07/15/2008 6:07:02 PM PDT by 7mmMag@LeftCoast (The DNC and Rino's: they put the CON into congress everyday.)
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To: tobyhill

Two things I would like to see tried:

1) Voluntary termination (or legislation permitting this) of unusable but explored land leases by the oil companies (with return of proportional advance lease payments, in exchange for equivalent Anwar or other high probability acres.

2) Gov of Alaska to mobilize the Alaska National Guard to seize ANWAR land (or the proposed oil site) from the feds with immediate lease offers for oil exploration, forcing a showdown over the drilling issue. Lets see the dems TRY to force bush to try to take it back... hehe.

What do you think?


176 posted on 07/15/2008 6:38:40 PM PDT by Snerdley (Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less)
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To: Snerdley

I think those are a couple good ideas but unfortunately we have “fearless leaders” that can’t see good ideas beyond their own political biases.


177 posted on 07/15/2008 6:43:48 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

Oil Wells - Uncap and Pump!
There are capped wells all over Southern California, Texas and possibly many other states. They are ensnared in red tape by people who want us to walk but they won’t. Write your reps and tell them to Uncap and Pump.


178 posted on 07/15/2008 7:31:19 PM PDT by Linden1209
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To: My Favorite Headache
He doesn’t want to offend anyone...remember that.

McVain has no problem offending conservatives.

179 posted on 07/15/2008 9:32:41 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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I came here hoping to see a topic on global warming but this is the closest I can find to the subject to post this. My husband and I finally forced ourselves to watch Al Gore’s “inconvenient truth” and we got to a point that my husband said “stop” and he stopped the movie. He went and got a pen and paper and started writing down and this is what he wrote. I just had to share this because I want to find out if this particular point has been brought up before among conservatives to counter this hoax. We watched the movie “the Great global warming swindle” and I did not see this point addressed. Here it is below.

Al Gore references a set of line charts which depict global temperature(Blue) and global CO2 levels (red) one above another for the past 650,000 years. His first point is that they parallel closely thereby showing the direct relation between them. His next point is a relationship shown during the recent (last ice age until present day) portion of the chart. He points to the high peak at the end of the temperature line and says it would indicate a pleasant day. He then points to the low point in temperature and say this would be a place where you would have “a mile of Ice over your head”. At this point he moves up to the CO2 line and the chart animates forward in time to the present day. The CO2 for present day is a nearly vertical line with about double the length of the CO2 change shown from “mile of ice” to “pleasant day”. Here is where the problem arises. If I am to believe Al’s first assertion that the CO2 and temp are directly related (and the lines do indeed show almost identical changes in direction and magnitude), and I ascribe a reasonable temperature difference to the unit “Mile of Ice” to “Pleasant day” like 80 degrees F, then the present day temp “For places like Detroit and Cleveland” would have to be 240 degrees F (80 + 2 X 80). Al then goes on to show the predictions for the next 50 years on the CO2 line, about another 2 of my units. This would mean that the corresponding temperature would have to be 400 degrees (240 +2 X 80).

There a couple of inconvenient (for poor Al) truths left out in the movie at this point. 1. The temperature scale is never continued to present day because it would have shown a gross flattening not corresponding to the CO2 line (Weather channel showing significantly below 240 this time of year). And 2. Since the graph is on the 650,000 year scale it fails to show the 100-200 year nuance that temperature precedes CO2 levels indicating increased CO2 is a result not a cause of naturally caused global climate change.


180 posted on 07/16/2008 12:00:41 AM PDT by LaurenD
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To: mouse1

Thanks. This was sent yesterday.

The whole nation is watching and it is apparent who the obstructionists
are.

35 years ago we had an oil embargo, what or who is causing that
embargo today? A handful of democrats with too much power and total
disregard for the security of the nation they were sworn to protect and
defend.

The gamesmenship being played right now is unacceptable. REASONABLE
proposals were brought to congress, only to be silenced. When they
were silenced you silenced We The People. That oil is not yours to play
with, it belongs to we the people.

You promised alternative energies 2 years ago. So, where is the
alternative energy plan that will move our nation forward? Where is it?

While you fiddle away trying to blame everyone else from the CEO’s to
the common peoples we see you. Calling us addicts doesn’t help,
calling you irresponsible with the power you were entrusted with does.

Oil can be brought online and available within 5 years or less if you
get out of the way. Passing the Gas and Petroleum Refiners Act, that
democrats have stalled in committee, will make it happen.

Lead, follow, or my best suggestion now...

GET OUT OF THE WAY and let Americans do what we do best...save our
Nation.


181 posted on 07/16/2008 5:20:12 AM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: EyeGuy; Jo Nuvark; Gilbo_3; Squantos; hiredhand

Having been raised to always fight back, to always punch back a little harder than the other guy (Old-School “Conflict Resolution”), I never, ever understand why “our” side doesn’t kick the Dems’ teeth in and put a boot in their “collective” asses when the opportunity presents itself. This is a perfect example.

We (Middle America) are being bled to death by a Demsocialist-controlled policy to stop American companies from drilling OUR oil on OUR off-shores...

“Our” party has a political lightning rod HANDED to them, and they muddle and mill about like brain-dead cattle, trying to figure out how the cow pattie landed where it did...

The definition of “peace” to the Socialists is “the absence of opposition to communist goals”. In other words, they are in a perpetual state of WAR with the rest of us. They are using LAW and ECONOMICS now instead of bullets; it’s easier to “rebuild” society when you don’t have to reconstruct the bombed buildings. You can always “re-educate” people’s kids, or launch a media campaign to demonize dissidents, call them “extremists” and “child molesters” and then kill them later off camera...

And “our” side just doesn’t get it. The DemComs hit us, again and again and again, and our side just says “STOP THAT!, Or I’ll SAY STOP THAT AGAIN!!!”

They’re either blind, ignorant, or tacitly complicit. I have no other explanation that I can think of.

And one more thing - who EXACTLY are these “environmental groups”... Faces? Names? Who are they? Where are they? We need to identify who they are, and they need to be held accountable. If they are standing in the way of American economic and energy independence, they need to be dealt with and removed.


182 posted on 07/16/2008 9:02:32 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: tobyhill

“Nevada actually has it worse. 75% of their revenue depends on tourism and if people can’t afford to get there then they go bust.”

That’s what I was figuring - how can he reconcile this with the people from his own state?
Are they rebelling yet?
Haven’t they figured out what their own representative is doing to them?
Is there anyone in Nevada challenging him for the office?


183 posted on 07/16/2008 9:11:10 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: SkyPilot

BTTT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2046340/posts?page=5#5


184 posted on 07/16/2008 11:11:29 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: NFHale; hiredhand; Squantos
We the People lost the diligence to act when necessary...30,50,80,100 yrs ago every commie-socialist-marxist that proposed the beginnings of the legislation shoulda been roped up and/or shot in short order...

'We' allowed the spawn to grow, now Fedzilla is too big to handle [as far as organized guns go] when we say 'stop'...they continue to say FU...MAKE us...

Hell that basically CWI...the organized resistence [w/o the pros and cons of reasons] was simply CRUSHED...at least since then there really hasnt beena jumping off point that individually we can see, lest we martyr ourselves...

So we wait for the knock on the door or the flashbangs thru the windows...

'our side' [conservative freedom desiring individuals] does 'get it'...those who would lead us [rin-o-p] are simply colluding with somewhat of a 'plausible deniablilty' that enriches themselves with enough power to toe the line...

with humans, its only gonna get worse til God rights the shipfor those who trust Him FIRST...its gonna suck, but 'we' will be okay with His decisions... LFOD...

185 posted on 07/16/2008 11:24:46 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3

As I have stated on other threads.......let the voters set term limits for this socialist trash !

Never re-elect any socialist seditious polidiot !

Send the message too the pandering polidiots or folks need to shut up and take what they deserve.


186 posted on 07/16/2008 3:42:11 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: saganite

I hope Senator Reid realizes that without the infrastructure provided by oil, most of his state becomes a desert, unable to support enough people to make a state.


187 posted on 07/16/2008 5:25:23 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: nikos1121
FR has taught me more than anything else, that we have a bunch of do nothing politicians running this country

I wish the dems would 'do nothing', and get out of the way of the people who are trying to make the country work. They seem to be doing their best to destroy the country,just to win an election. They may think it better to reign in hell than serve in heaven, but the rest of us have got to live here too.

188 posted on 07/16/2008 5:54:10 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: tobyhill

The high price of fuel, according to a report on Fox News regarding the expansion proposal of the Las Vegas airport, is having a negative effect on the economy of Nevada as fewer people are able to drive and/or fly to gambling destinations there. I think it is past time for the people of Nevada to send an unequivicable message to members of Congress by voting Reid out of office for failure to work for his constituents.


189 posted on 07/17/2008 11:04:50 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Soldier soon to be training other Army Soldiers)
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To: freekitty

Re: “Well, that’s one reason for kicking these libs out of office.”

If the dumb Republican leaders - who Never speak up - would only understand that using this issue would help them Keep their seats and also win even More seats.

But they won’t! They Never speak up! It’s too un-gentlemanlike! Even if they DO lose their shirts!


190 posted on 07/17/2008 12:05:59 PM PDT by Anita1 (A Conservative for President in '08!! / Pro-life / Pro-border / Pro-American jobs / Strong Defense!)
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To: Anita1

They won’t because they are making all the money and business connections and living the life of Riley.

I am not voting for one incumbent because they simply don’t care about the people.


191 posted on 07/17/2008 1:17:34 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: mouse1

It’s Thursday, not Tuesday. M


192 posted on 07/17/2008 7:37:14 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

Thursday?


193 posted on 07/17/2008 7:39:06 PM PDT by TBall ( I wasn't born last Wednesday)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I’m afraid that most voters are clueless. We don’t call them sheeple for nothing.


194 posted on 07/17/2008 7:39:17 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: TBall

OOPS. You’re right. Thursday was the 17th. I’m so sorry. My dates get mixed up easily these days. My world revolves around dialysis.


195 posted on 07/18/2008 4:23:33 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: jmcenanly
Imagine Las Vegas without air conditioning.....not only will that make you sick but it will flat out kill you, Senator!
196 posted on 07/19/2008 9:31:54 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!))
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To: Dog
You brought up a point which has eaten at me for the last 7 years. Every liberal I know, and many conservatives, call President Bush dumb. But Pres Bush beat the Democrats in both elections, is still getting bills passed in Congress and the Senate, and still gets countries like Iran and North Korea to shake like a leaf in the wind whenever he starts looking at them. He even got better scores in College than Gore or Kerry. So why in the world does everyone think he is “dumb”.
197 posted on 07/19/2008 11:48:28 AM PDT by wbarmy (Hard core, extremist, right-wing is a little too mild for my tastes.)
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To: tobyhill
The $64,000 question is what could the envirowhacks possibly be bringing to the dem table to justify this much grief?? I mean, any normal person in Reid's positoin would have to tell them to screw off.

Drilling hasn't "failed"; it hasn't been PERMITTED for the last 30 years.

What HAS FAILED is the kumbayah **** approach of the dems which has now had thirty years in which to replace all of the evil Gaia-hateful technologies of the past with windmills and solar panels, and it hasn't happened.

The dems are clearly the ones locked into an ideological vise on this one and when you vote for them or even fail to vote for pubbies, you're telling the world that you want to pay more for gasoline, heating oil, and natural gas, and deserve to pay more.

Right now there are something like 40 large jet aircraft engines pumping propane gas back into the ground on the Alaska oil fields. Enough to heat many if not most of the homes in the US and the dems and their Ewhack constituents will not allow us to have it.

This is for the greater glory of Gaia and it is a form of idolatry. In fact there is nothing in the Old Testament to indicate that anybody ever sacraficed an entire nation to an idol, this is new.

198 posted on 07/21/2008 4:20:47 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Unless the GOP has decided to surrender to the Dems/Commies/Socialists, they can easily kick butt and take names in November through a get tough advertising campaign and collectively staying on message. Giving examples of the rats insane votes that have shut down drilling and exploration, it’s the dems that have caused the energy crisis! And the dems should get full blame for high gas prices we’re all paying today.

Note to GOP: Forget Iraq - it’s the gas prices, stoopid!


199 posted on 07/23/2008 10:38:14 AM PDT by demkicker (In the minority or majority, I'll never stop 'kicking' dems)
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