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"Mysterious" Visit of Venezuelan Officials [to Puerto Rico]
El Vocero de Puerto Rico (Spanish-language article) ^ | July 16, 2008 | Yamilet Millán Rodríguez

Posted on 07/16/2008 6:42:38 AM PDT by rrstar96

(English-language translation)

The negotiations between Puerto Rico and Venezuela for the purchase of more economical oil remain a mystery.

The respective secretaries of the Department of State and the Department of Consumer Affairs (DACO), Fernando Bonilla and Jorge Suárez, have not made public the outcome of that country's visit this past weekend.

"I believe they're being very cautious about not turning this into a fiasco and, therefore, they don't want to reveal the negotiation in case this cannot be accomplished and thus avoid a possible negative damage to the effort[.] That is why there is silence," was the opinion of Angel Rosa, professor of Political Science at the [University of Puerto Rico] Mayagüez Campus.

SHORT-TERM MEASURES

To Rosa, the government is trying to, somehow, take short-term measures to decrease the cost of fuel and pass those savings along to the consumer.

"This is natural, and, moreover, we're close to the elections. This is an issue that raises questions about the political capacity Puerto Rico has for this type of transaction. The only thing Puerto Rico is doing is trying to buy cheaper gasoline and fuel for the Electric Power Authority turbines," Rosa said.

According to the expert, the negotiations are "genuine and perfectly possible", but motivated by politics and the emergency situation caused by the price of fuel.

"These are two genuine avenues, the first because the price of fuel has increased dramatically, and the second because the [governing Popular Democratic Party] wants to win the elections," Rosa maintained.

"WE ARE LATIN AMERICANS"

[Rosa] said the negotiations will depend on the government's success in convincing Venezuela. "I think the most powerful argument is that we Puerto Ricans are Latin Americans, that we are suffering from this oil crisis, and to benefit the Puerto Ricans is to do good to a Latin American country such as Venezuela," he stated.

He explained that DACO is replacing private intermediaries without any interest in profit in order to pass along the savings at the pump from the preferential price it secures.

The Governor confirmed last week that Bonilla and Suárez will visit Venezuela during the weekend to participate in a meeting with Petrocaribe. Through their [respective] press secretaries, both officials have said they are making no statements about the issue.

Petrocaribe is an initiative by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez to allow Caribbean countries to buy up to 185,000 barrels of oil per day at preferential prices through an Energy Cooperation Agreement.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: energy; gasprices; geopolitics; hugochavez; latinamerica; oil; puertorico; venezuela

1 posted on 07/16/2008 6:42:38 AM PDT by rrstar96
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To: cll

ping

Negotiating with Chávez’s government? Talk about playing with fire!


2 posted on 07/16/2008 6:43:47 AM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

hey!

they can have pr.

who cares?

no 51st democrat state for us.


3 posted on 07/16/2008 6:44:26 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: rrstar96

Good.. let’s kick PR out of our country.


4 posted on 07/16/2008 6:45:17 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Ron Jeremy

OK, but we keep Vieques as a firing range....


5 posted on 07/16/2008 6:51:38 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist
OK, but we keep Vieques as a firing range....

Too late. We shut that down several years ago.

6 posted on 07/16/2008 6:53:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: rrstar96

Uh, isn’t Puerto Rico a U.S. Territory, under authority of the U.S. govnerment?


7 posted on 07/16/2008 6:54:54 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: rrstar96

They want to kiss Chavez’s ass?

Let them have their freedom from the US, then.

Remove all the welfare and subsidies they receive, now!

Give Puerto Ricans in this country the choice of remaining US citizens or a free trip to the new marxist paradise.


8 posted on 07/16/2008 7:01:02 AM PDT by HankArcher ("When freedom expands to mean freedom of instinct and social destruction, then freedom is dead")
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To: rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; Clemenza; Narcoleptic; ...
Fungible ignorance funnies of the day!

Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


9 posted on 07/16/2008 7:06:12 AM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: Non-Sequitur

We re-open it by surprise then. ;-)


10 posted on 07/16/2008 7:06:59 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: ken21
1. PR will never be a State.

2. PR will never be "owned" by any other country.

3. PR is the home of the real headquarters of the IRS. It is also incorporated in PR.

11 posted on 07/16/2008 7:07:47 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Great, now where am I going to get my Mofongo from?


12 posted on 07/16/2008 7:07:53 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

the irs is incorporated in pr?

where’s your source?

that’s rich!


13 posted on 07/16/2008 7:09:56 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: theDentist

Nah, far better that the Navy washed its hands of Puerto Rico entirely. The surprise for them was that when they closed down Vieques, that left the base at Roosevelt Roads without any real purpose so they closed that down, too. Much to the dismay of those who had been demanding an end to the live fire range. I guess they didn’t connect the dots.


14 posted on 07/16/2008 7:12:55 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Really? I don’t recall that, but that must’ve burnt a few backsides.


15 posted on 07/16/2008 7:16:37 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist

IIRC a couple of Kennedys and the usual cast of characters held demonstrations down there. For what? I guess to keep the money coming into the area but keep the military out. That’s logical thinking for those looking for handouts all the time.


16 posted on 07/16/2008 7:20:27 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: theDentist
Really? I don’t recall that, but that must’ve burnt a few backsides.

Oh yeah. It fell under the 'beware of what you wish for' category. The very same people demanding the shutting of Vieques were suddenly up in arms over the job losses when Roosevelt Roads shut down.

17 posted on 07/16/2008 7:22:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; cll

That’s right. I don’t know, however, how much power the island has to do this type of negotiating without the intervention of the federal government.


18 posted on 07/16/2008 7:43:24 AM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96
"Petrocaribe is an initiative by Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez to allow Caribbean countries to buy up to 185,000 barrels of oil per day at preferential prices through an Energy Cooperation Agreement.",/i> A lot of Latin and Caribbean countries are saying "no" to Hugo. Most can see it for the blatant attempt to curry favour and garner an aura of respectability and support that it actually is...
19 posted on 07/16/2008 7:57:07 AM PDT by milky
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To: rrstar96; Virginia Ridgerunner

This is all election year posturing. The PR Electric Power Authority has always been able to buy fuel from all over the world. However, the EPA told it that the Venezuelan fuel was too dirty and they can’t use that anymore.

Also, the PR goverment owns no refineries, so how the heck do they expect to “lower the price at the gasoline pump” by buying Venezuelan oil? If PR buys Venezuelan oil, they would just have to sell it to Gulf Caribe or to Sunoco for refining, no?

Again, this is all hogwash.


20 posted on 07/16/2008 7:57:43 AM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: cll
Again, this is all hogwash.

That may be true, but the most telling part of this whole thread is the subtle and not so subtle hate that rears its ugly head every time there is a Puerto Rico related thread.
21 posted on 07/16/2008 8:09:18 AM PDT by adorno
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To: rrstar96

do you need a passport to travel to and from the us and PR?”


22 posted on 07/16/2008 8:17:31 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Walkingfeather; rrstar96

“do you need a passport to travel to and from the us and PR?”

No. Puerto Rico is domestic territory of the United States. You can travel to/from Puerto Rico and the mainland just as you would travel between Hawaii and the continental U.S.


23 posted on 07/16/2008 8:47:15 AM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: cll

But representatives of another country would have to pass through passport control to enter.


24 posted on 07/16/2008 8:50:01 AM PDT by twntaipan (NOBAMA! Say No to B.O.!)
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To: twntaipan

Yes, to enter from any place other than a U.S. State or the U.S. Virgin Islands.


25 posted on 07/16/2008 9:45:02 AM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: cll
Puerto Rico gets a lot of its refined product from the Hovensa refinery in St Croix.

Hovensa is owned by Hess Oil and PVDSA. That refinery was built to crack and refine the heavy Vensuela crude.

26 posted on 07/16/2008 10:15:00 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: adorno; cll

Right. Based on the responses from some fellow FReepers, you would think that, within the U.S., only Puerto Rico pulls un- or anti-American stunts.


27 posted on 07/16/2008 10:49:18 AM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: ken21
I understand you have preconceived notions, don't let the truth bother you.

http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm

28 posted on 07/16/2008 4:31:44 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

you have no proof of your assertions above.

take your arrogance elsewhere.


29 posted on 07/16/2008 4:39:23 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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