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Feds Look to Tighten Laws Requiring Truckers to Speak English
FoxNews ^ | July 15, 2008 | Staff Writer

Posted on 07/17/2008 6:06:13 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — Manuel Castillo was driving a truck through Alabama hauling onions and left with a $500 ticket for something he didn't think he was doing: speaking English poorly.

Castillo, who was stopped on his way back to California, said he knows federal law requires him to be able to converse in English with an officer but he thought his language skills were good enough to avoid a ticket.

Still, Castillo said he plans to pay the maximum fine of $500 rather than return to Alabama to fight the ticket.

"It just doesn't seem fair to be ticketed if I wasn't doing anything dangerous on the road," he said.

Federal law requires that anyone with a commercial drivers license speak English well enough to talk with police. Authorities last year issued 25,230 tickets nationwide for violations. Now the federal government is trying to tighten the English requirement, saying the change is needed for safety reasons.

Most states let truckers and bus drivers take at least part of their license tests in languages other than English. But the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration has proposed rules requiring anyone applying for a commercial drivers license to speak English during their road test and vehicle inspection. The agency wants to change its rules to eliminate the use of interpreters, and congressional approval isn't required.

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Limiting the road portion of the CDL test to English-only conversation would help eliminate drivers who don't speak English well enough to talk to an officer on the roadside, Quade said. He sees no conflict in continuing to let applicants take the written test in languages other than English.

"The level of English proficiency we are looking for at the roadside is basic. The (written) CDL is a whole different level. There's multiple choice, fairly in-depth quarters that require more of an understanding of the English language." ______________________________________________

And what's not to like about that ????

1 posted on 07/17/2008 6:06:13 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; 3AngelaD; alice_in_bubbaland; aligncare; AliVeritas; ...

English requirement for truckers PING


2 posted on 07/17/2008 6:08:05 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

3 posted on 07/17/2008 6:10:45 PM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: Tennessee Nana

It just doesn’t seem fair to be ticketed if I wasn’t doing anything dangerous on the road,” he said.

how would he know, he doesn’t speak english


4 posted on 07/17/2008 6:15:22 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Tennessee Nana
Image and video hosting by TinyPic ...;0)
5 posted on 07/17/2008 6:18:30 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Tennessee Nana

!!Eso es racismo, pendojos gringos!!


6 posted on 07/17/2008 6:20:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“The measure would not extend to CB communications” said Transportation Secretary Mary E. Peters.


7 posted on 07/17/2008 6:21:41 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Tennessee Nana
Sounds like a good step in the right direction. That is a job choice. Nearly every job I took in the 80's and 90's stated; must be able to speak, read, write and understand English.
8 posted on 07/17/2008 6:23:07 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Tennessee Nana
And what's not to like about that ????

I'm sure Obama will think of a few things, after all if the police would just learn Spanish then this man driving a truck (just to be able to feed his starving children) wouldn't be a problem.
You know something as common sense as this must drive the Libs nuts.
9 posted on 07/17/2008 6:26:37 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

HAHAHAH!!!!

I thought it said “Turkeys” instead of “Truckers”!

How are you, Nan?


10 posted on 07/17/2008 6:27:45 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
No, no, no, you sumbitch! I live in Alabama, and you have this image of a bunch of buffoonish, backwater white crackers running the show down here all wrong....

Much Obliged,


11 posted on 07/17/2008 6:30:03 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak Obama is as inept as a bear cub with his dink.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Pete-R-Bilt

Pobrecito.


12 posted on 07/17/2008 6:30:17 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thanks for the ping Nana!

Feds doing something right for a change
should have a “better sit down” alert.


13 posted on 07/17/2008 6:34:34 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“What we have heeah is a faileeah to communicate.”


14 posted on 07/17/2008 6:35:58 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

I’d like to see them tighten laws requiring technical support to speak English...


15 posted on 07/17/2008 6:37:25 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: Viking2002
No Speeeky Engleeez! Image and video hosting by TinyPic BWahahaha...(spit tea on keybord)...;0)
16 posted on 07/17/2008 6:37:44 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Do they require the drivers of Mexico trucks running in this country to have a US license? Unless the law has changed I think they drive with a Mexico license or maybe none at all. I use to talk to some of these Mexico drivers and they know very few English words. So I guess we are picking on the ones that live in this country.


17 posted on 07/17/2008 6:39:53 PM PDT by Faith-Hope
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To: Jo Nuvark

LMAOROF!!!,,,(I hurt myself)...;0)


18 posted on 07/17/2008 6:39:58 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Tennessee Nana
"It just doesn't seem fair to be ticketed if I wasn't doing anything dangerous on the road," he said.

If he really said this, he shouldn't have been ticketed.

19 posted on 07/17/2008 6:41:43 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Great thanks, Silvie...

How’s yerself ?????


20 posted on 07/17/2008 6:41:46 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
"It just doesn't seem fair to be ticketed if I wasn't doing anything dangerous on the road," he said.

If he really said this, he shouldn't have been ticketed.

21 posted on 07/17/2008 6:41:59 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Tennessee Nana
""It just doesn't seem fair to be ticketed if I wasn't doing anything dangerous on the road," he said."

Ummm....read that again and tell me how many here think he really said that. I don't even speak that well-LOL.

22 posted on 07/17/2008 6:43:35 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Hi, Silvie!

23 posted on 07/17/2008 6:44:36 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (John Gard for Congress; WI 8th CD)
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To: Tennessee Nana
(Castillo, who was stopped on his way back to California)
What a surprise this trucker was en-route back to his home state, Mexifornia, where if you speak English you're either racist, prejudice or both.
(Limiting the road portion of the CDL test to English-only conversation)
As long as California has its’ way, this will never happen. Most citations given to Mexican drivers are never paid and all the driver has to do is get another license under another name. This doesn't only pertain to Mexican drivers either. Many middle eastern drivers run with up to four drivers in the truck and only one has a license. The rest of them run under the ‘legal’ drivers’ license. I have personally seen this and have been told, by cops I used to work with, that this is an ongoing problem. Most officers will only stop truckers that are white, black or look like they will be able pay for the citations. Why bother with the people the state won't get any money from and waste court time.
24 posted on 07/17/2008 6:49:50 PM PDT by antiunion person (Close the borders and illegals won't be a problem.)
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To: Faith-Hope
Do they require the drivers of Mexico trucks running in this country to have a US license? Unless the law has changed I think they drive with a Mexico license or maybe none at all. I use to talk to some of these Mexico drivers and they know very few English words. So I guess we are picking on the ones that live in this country.

Just like commercial aircraft pilots having to speak and understand English, at least all commercial truckers in America should have the same requirement -- and that would put the brakes on most Mexican truckers coming into America.

25 posted on 07/17/2008 6:50:46 PM PDT by Dagny&Hank
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To: Tennessee Nana

The state DMV has stumbled onto a revenue gold mine.


26 posted on 07/17/2008 6:51:26 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Black dogs and bacon bombs.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Sooory if mye tiping iz badd, but i saww yer grafic and shot mye monitur oout.....i thimk i killd at leest thuree rivver rats, tho......


27 posted on 07/17/2008 6:56:25 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak Obama is as inept as a bear cub with his dink.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
LULAC, MALDEF, La Raza, etc. say...


28 posted on 07/17/2008 6:58:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oh, go jump over a south bound wall...

;)


29 posted on 07/17/2008 7:01:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
I don't know if there's a problem there.

All I remember is that my first day in kindergarten was fraught with angest in that the teacher didn't wan't to deal with me despite my meeting the requirements:

Are these requirements no longer necessary?
30 posted on 07/17/2008 7:17:43 PM PDT by raygun
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To: raygun

President Obama will outlaw all 3 ...


31 posted on 07/17/2008 7:24:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Viking2002; Tennessee Nana; All

Ya’ know what ain’t funi,,,

All the owner-operators that have gone under because of

Fuel costs and US companies that hire Mexican truckers

at a cut rate,,,

A guy down the road from me had both of his

White RoadCommanders for sale in his front yard last month.

He drove one and his wife drove the other,,,

I hope Manuel’s boss is happy,,,

FWIW when I clicked on the link to this story my Spy Sweeper

just went off~~~TribalFusion Cookie~~~Spy Ware~~~!

Got 6 so far,,,

YA’LL MITE WANT TO SWEEP YOUR SYSTEMS!!!


32 posted on 07/17/2008 8:01:08 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Jo Nuvark

“What we have heeah is a faileeah to communicate.”

Wut we hav heya, is faya....to cummunicate.

LOL


33 posted on 07/17/2008 8:09:00 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’m unclear what you’re saying.

Please present source material where those standards have been subverted.


34 posted on 07/17/2008 8:09:11 PM PDT by raygun
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To: All

overture~atlas dmt~apmebf~pointroll~adrevolver~TribalFusion.

ALL SPY COOKIES!!!

I just swept my system earlier today and it was clean!!!

Got to dump everything and re-logg-in,,,

All that clicked on that link check your system!!!DAMMIT!!!


35 posted on 07/17/2008 8:16:18 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Faith-Hope

This guy was interviewed in spanish. He’s been here for 20 years and he’s still more comfortable speaking in spanish, THIS is the problem. This is most definitely a safety issue. DOT regs require they are able to speak and read the english language, if they have a usa issued cdl it shouldn’t be a problem. My husband told me a while back that some states were shutting down some of these drivers because they couldn’t carry on a conversation in english, and more power to them.

It scares the hell out of me that there’s so many middle-eastern truck drivers out there, oh my bad, that was so very politically incorrect. I question alot of truck drivers out there and their supposed cdl. It’s not hard to get one. My husband had a student who lived in Danville, CA but his cdl was issued out of Michigan, and yeah, the hair on the back of my neck tweaks sometimes. You’d be scared too if you knew alot of those with cdl’s shouldn’t have them in the first place.


36 posted on 07/17/2008 8:21:13 PM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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To: Tennessee Nana

Can you get pulled over for not being able to speak English? Like if an officer pulls up along side you and hears you singing in Spanish? That would be an interesting bust...


37 posted on 07/17/2008 8:26:20 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: Faith-Hope

you call it ‘picking’ to require that someone driving a load, of what might be, hazardous material to speak english?

Then I am proud to be that picky.


38 posted on 07/17/2008 8:44:43 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: antiunion person

We got stopped for speeding a couple of years ago in Bama - 15 miles over the speed limit. Had a choice, follow the officer to the court and pay the fine or follow the officer and spend the night at the jail. Leaving and coming back for a court date wasn’t one of our choices. So why can’t they do that with these guys? I’m sure there are plenty of JP’s who would be happy to reconvene court long enough to slam the gavel and show the perp to the collection window??? $500 is nothing to sneeze at.


39 posted on 07/17/2008 8:48:17 PM PDT by Grams A
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To: Tennessee Nana

More attrition!

Keep it coming folks!


40 posted on 07/17/2008 11:16:01 PM PDT by Califreak (What exactly is a "Do Wacka Do" anyway?)
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To: SouthTexas; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; B4Ranch; glock rocks
We've been here before eh?

It's only taking then 38 years to decide to enforce the rules?

hmmm slow even for them

From the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration;

391.11(b)(2)

Background - Under §391.11(b)(2) of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSR), it says that all drivers must “read and speak the English language sufficiently to converse with the general public, to understand highway traffic signs and signals in the English language, to respond to official inquiries, and to make entries on reports and records.” This rule was often thought of as being subjective. In the past, each employer and law enforcement personnel interpreted the rule differently. Even though the rule has been in effect since 1970, no one had been placed out-of-service because it was not incorporated into the North American Standard Out-of-Service Criteria (a.k.a. Out-of-Service Criteria). The OOS Criteria is published by the Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA).

from the Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance;

New Out of Service Criteria from CVSA effective April 1, 2005The Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA) has updated the North American Standard Out OfService (OOS) Criteria handbook for commercial vehicles.

The updates, which include Hours of Service andLoad Securement, are in the new handbook that is available on their website. If you are interested inpurchasing this new handbook, please contact T.J. Cantwell at , as NLBMDA is able to obtain adiscount for bulk purchases through our membership with CVSA.

All CVSA certified law enforcement agencies (and most of them are certified) use these criteria wheninspecting your vehicles and determining whether the vehicle or driver is classified as OOS. Once a driver or
vehicle is declared OOS, the vehicle cannot be moved until the issue is resolved and you are back incompliance.One notable inclusion to the new OOS criteria is the following reference regarding drivers:“If a commercial vehicle driver is unable to communicate sufficiently to understand and respond to officialinquires and directions, he/she will be placed out of service.”

In accordance with FMCSR 391.11 (b)(2) a person is qualified to operate a commercial vehicle if he/she:(b)(2) Can read and speak the English language sufficiently to converse with the general public, tounderstand highway traffic signs and signals in the English language, to respond to official inquiries, and tomake entries on reports and records;Remember, that this applies to all commercial vehicles, not just your fleet vehicles that require a CDLto operate.

While the new CVSA OOS criteria is not an “English Language Requirement”, it is important tounderstand that you, as a motor carrier, have the obligation to ensure that all your drivers have sufficientcommunication skills to carry out their assigned duties. Don’t rely on the officer being able to speak Spanishor other language in order to communicate with your driver.

41 posted on 07/18/2008 12:32:00 AM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt (just be yourself, and nobody will ever know if you're doing it wrong.)
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To: Pete-R-Bilt
You know, I always wonder about this when I watch the cop shows on TV. The stopped drivers have to have an interpreter come so they can be questioned.

I know, many of them do speak English just fine and they are just playing a game. Enforcement of and $500 tickets would put an end to the “no habla” BS in fairly short order.

42 posted on 07/18/2008 6:06:02 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: SouthTexas
one day as I and a couple other guys had stopped to get clearance through the Wyo POE there was a mex guy in the office and he was doing that studdering crap with the port girl, he obviously didn't have the proper permit and was hoping to BS his way through.

what he got was ALL RITE!

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND UNDERSTAND ME AND IF YOU CAN'T YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL!

he immediately started speaking better kings English that either of the rest of us standing there.

we giggled about that for 50 miles...

43 posted on 07/18/2008 6:34:57 AM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt (just be yourself, and nobody will ever know if you're doing it wrong.)
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To: Pete-R-Bilt

LOL

I’ve seen highway patrolmen do the exact same thing down here. They just need to make it standard operating procedure.


44 posted on 07/18/2008 7:10:18 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: Pete-R-Bilt

>:“If a commercial vehicle driver is unable to communicate sufficiently to understand and respond to officialinquires and directions, he/she will be placed out of service.”<

Have you ever heard of this happening?


45 posted on 07/18/2008 8:29:05 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Grams A

Were you on a State highway or an Interstate? I remmeber when if you got caught on a State highway, you went to see the judge. Interstates worked under federal laws, you were arrested or written a citation.


46 posted on 07/18/2008 8:33:30 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I just came across something veeeeery interesting. The FoxNews.com posting of the (AP) article has the following line:

"It just doesn't seem fair to be ticketed if I wasn't doing anything dangerous on the road," he said.

Now here's the same line from the same AP article printed in my local newspaper (The Rock Island Argus):

"It just doesn't seem fair to be ticketed if I wasn't doing anything dangerous on the road," he said in an interview in Spanish.

Now why would Fox edit and omit the end of the sentence? Looks like the editor wants us to believe the trucker said those words in English, but for what reason? To garner sympathy and support for this beleaguered "permanent U.S. resident" (whatever that means)?

What the hell happened to the formerly conservative Fox News? And to deceptively edit an AP article, of all things!

47 posted on 07/18/2008 11:14:28 AM PDT by Tarkus2040 ("Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about." --Barry Farber)
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To: B4Ranch

It was on a state highway - about 3 a.m. Tooling along and came upon a very slow moving truck piled to the hilt plus about 5 feet of small boxes. Kicked it to get around and there the darling was! Oh well. I was quite polite - even for me but it still cost me $250.00 cash or they would be happy to escort me to the nearest ATM! Figured some of it went as a contribution to the judge’s re-election warchest.


48 posted on 07/18/2008 2:24:34 PM PDT by Grams A
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To: B4Ranch
Yes!

This year during Roadcheck, a Bosnian driver was mot only placed out of service but arrested when he tried to leave a POE as officers tried to instruct him to park and complete a level 3 inspection...

he was charged with assault and attempted murder.

but to really answer your question no it isn't enforced as a general rule...

49 posted on 07/18/2008 8:11:18 PM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt (just be yourself, and nobody will ever know if you're doing it wrong.)
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To: Pete-R-Bilt

I don’t think it ever will be popular.


50 posted on 07/18/2008 8:38:43 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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