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For Some Ohioans, Even Meat Is Out Of Reach ['What's Going To Happen To Us?' ..........]
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Posted on 07/18/2008 11:44:51 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

For Some Ohioans, Even Meat Is Out Of Reach

by Yuki Noguchi

All Things Considered, July 17, 2008 · A generation ago, the livelihood of Gloria Nunez's family was built on cars.

Her father worked at General Motors for 45 years before retiring. Her mother taught driver's education. Nunez and her six siblings grew up middle class.

Things have changed considerably for this Ohio family.

Nunez's van broke down last fall. Now, her 19-year-old daughter has no reliable transportation out of their subsidized housing complex in Fostoria, 40 miles south of Toledo, to look for a job.

Nunez and most of her siblings and their spouses are unemployed and rely on government assistance and food stamps. Some have part-time jobs, but working is made more difficult with no car or public transportation.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: learnedhelplessness; obesity; stupidlazyignorant; therealobamagirls; welfare
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To: Marie

“never worked” “no high school degree” “two kids” “most of her family dont work or work part time” “daughter should have kid for more money”

Oh, I get the picture.


51 posted on 07/18/2008 12:15:05 PM PDT by mouse1 ("whitey")
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
you know the saying- "cameras add 10 lbs."....

they should have just resized the pic this way.


52 posted on 07/18/2008 12:15:23 PM PDT by petercooper (It's called subprime for a reason.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Whoa!! I think a bit of time with no meat & having to walk a few miles would do them both a lot of good!!

Looks like they’ve already consumed two lifetimes worth of food a piece!


53 posted on 07/18/2008 12:16:23 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Apparently bras are too expensive too. Ugh.


54 posted on 07/18/2008 12:16:49 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Sub-Driver
What whiners. I grew up in what was considered a middle-class family in the 50's and 60's. We never had a car. We walked to school and took two buses to get to our jobs. I never had a new car until I was 38 years old. I'm almost 61 now. And I've never owned a house or property.

These women should have spent more time pursuing an education, and bettering themselves, than pursuing food. Maybe they'd have a decent job by now.

55 posted on 07/18/2008 12:17:43 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: Redbob
Why does it never occur to folks to leave the sh*tholes they’re living in to go find jobs elsewhere?

Because they don't want to work, and will use any excuse not to:

"Nunez, 40, has never worked and has no high school degree. She says a car accident 17 years ago left her depressed and disabled, incapable of getting a job. Instead, she and her daughter, Angelica Hernandez, survive on a $637 Social Security check and $102 in food stamps."

56 posted on 07/18/2008 12:18:11 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: autumnraine

Their “twins” are supported by their stomachs.


57 posted on 07/18/2008 12:18:21 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: autumnraine

L0L! Narf!


58 posted on 07/18/2008 12:18:24 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Redbob

Because that takes effort and sacrifice. In their mind, the government is supposed to bring the jobs to them. Of course that wouldn’t help these people as they have never worked anyway. Who cares if the jobs are leaving, they weren’t working them when they were there.


59 posted on 07/18/2008 12:18:28 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
"Holy Toledo!"

I think they're bigger than that city.

60 posted on 07/18/2008 12:18:35 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: mylife
The old man built cars for 45 years but they cant fix the Van...

Heh heh. If the guy was working for all those years, probably union, why are they living in subsidized housing?

Re the weight, go veg, my sisters, go veg! You don't need no stinkin' meat. Of course, by the looks of things, you don't no stinkin' veggies either.

61 posted on 07/18/2008 12:18:43 PM PDT by radiohead (Donate to the flooded libraries in Iowa.)
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To: mylife

No, but it is part of it. A lot of poor folks just don’t know what to eat, either.

Of course, I knew some “poor” folks who ate better than anyone else I know - from their garden, from the jars in their basement, and from the deer and other critters in the garage freezer. Some people will never be poor no matter how little money they have. Have to admire them.


62 posted on 07/18/2008 12:18:57 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: fishtank

Wonder how much that tatoo cost. Probably more than they pay for their rent in the public housing.


63 posted on 07/18/2008 12:19:03 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Sub-Driver

If they were to leave Ohio, which has just declined more under the do-nothing Ted Strickland and went to another state with lower taxes, no indexed minimum wage (yes, the minimum wage in Ohio automatically goes up with inflation), no threat of mandatory seven days paid sick leave, in short, a better business climate, they’d find jobs.

The country is not yet in a recession, but Ohio has been in one for years. Who is at fault for that? I’d say state and local government.


64 posted on 07/18/2008 12:19:59 PM PDT by mak5
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To: fishtank

You're gonna need a bigger monitor.

65 posted on 07/18/2008 12:20:47 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: Little Ray

This is very true, the cheap foods are starchy and unhealthy. But there is a limit to how much you need to eat of that food. Also, they have some dirt somewhere I assume, or some pots to grow things in. We work hard in our garden every year, like bust butt hard, but we get “free” vegetables from it. All for the cost of seed, which is about a $20 investment.


66 posted on 07/18/2008 12:20:54 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Coffee200am
"They’re eating something..."

Or someone. I hope they're not planning on going to the Demoncrap Convention. They'll starve to death.

67 posted on 07/18/2008 12:21:18 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: Sub-Driver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GjxO6H9z1Q


68 posted on 07/18/2008 12:21:26 PM PDT by hippyhater
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To: Marie

“....but can’t afford meat and fresh veggies.”

Baloney. See some of the previous posts about food stamp shoppers.

These two porkers eat A LOT OF FOOD.

PERIOD.


69 posted on 07/18/2008 12:21:46 PM PDT by fishtank (FIRST defeat Obama. ------------------ THEN resist McCain. ---------- A good plan.)
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To: Little Ray

These people are ignorant.

Do you know what you can do with soupbones(I bet they could get them free) some veggies and a little bit of meat?


70 posted on 07/18/2008 12:21:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sub-Driver

I can’t figure out why these people can’t get a job.

Job Interview: “Sit down, please.”

Interviewee: “I’m sorry, I can’t fit in the chair”.


71 posted on 07/18/2008 12:22:10 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: All

I could feed 10 people good on 10 bucks if I had to


72 posted on 07/18/2008 12:23:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: I still care

After seeing the picture, I understand why the van broke down!


73 posted on 07/18/2008 12:24:19 PM PDT by catman67
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To: Sub-Driver

Pictures do not lie. Walker Evans photographed the starving and drawn faces that resulted from both the dust bowl and the Great Depession. If the leftist MSM propaganda is looking for poster children for ecomomic hard times, they gonna have to keep on looking.


74 posted on 07/18/2008 12:24:40 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Sub-Driver

Dave Ramsey, please pick up the white courtesy phone.


75 posted on 07/18/2008 12:26:09 PM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: mylife

Dry beans too. My mom used to make pintos, corn and biscuits on weeks my dad was laid off. I didn’t starve. The pinto’s were pennies a bag and a can of corn was cheap too.

And for a treat, we would take the “almost expired sale” can biscuits and make donuts out of them. Cinnamon and sugar sprinkled donuts. Yum.


76 posted on 07/18/2008 12:26:18 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Sub-Driver

The left isn’t scoring many points trying to make working Americans feel sorry for people like this. No wonder their van broke down.


77 posted on 07/18/2008 12:26:20 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Marie
Carbs make you fat.
Trust me, both of these women are malnourished.

I agree and disagree. I bet they are malnourished. However, it's not the carbs, it's the carbs and fat. It's also the high probabiity that they are eating processed carbs rather than whole foods such as potatoes and beans. You can eat that stuff, but you can't slather it with butter or fry it up, even with olive oil.

Diabetic 10 years, did low carb forever w/moderate results. Best and fastest improvements in weight and blood sugar have been with low fat vegan. And in the end, the low fat, no cholesterol way of eating will be better for my heart, since heart disease is what kills most diabetics anyway.

78 posted on 07/18/2008 12:27:03 PM PDT by radiohead (Donate to the flooded libraries in Iowa.)
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To: KansasGirl
" ‘Why don’t your daughter have a kid?’"

First they'd have to find a gargantuan turkey baster.

79 posted on 07/18/2008 12:27:48 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: Marie
The mpoverished can eat all they want of these foods, but can't afford meat and fresh veggies.

Brown rice is 25 cents a pound, dry.

Kidney beans and black beans and pinto beans are maybe 40 cents a pound.

A whole chicken costs about as much as five Snickers bars or two boxes of Devil Dogs.

A couple of pounds of whatever fresh vegetable is on special at the local supermarket is about the same.

For a couple of normal people that's lunch and dinner for a week for about $20-25.

Oatmeal is about 50 cents a pound, honey is about 1 to 2 boxes of Devil Dogs a pound. That's breakfast for two normal people for a week for less than $10.

All you need is a little oil, some spices and water and an hour or two a week to have a healthy, filling albeit repetitive diet.

Eating donuts for breakfast, McDonald's for lunch and pizza for dinner while snacking on Milky Ways and Cheetos all day to a level that would sustain these women in their morbid obesity costs about the same per day.

They are malnourished by their own deliberate choice.

80 posted on 07/18/2008 12:28:24 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Sub-Driver

From the article, the mother was disabled from a car accident. Same thing happened to me, I can’t criticize. But that’s what families are for. And what happened to the daughter? She seems like she’s just fat.

On woman getting disability and another with a full time job in subsidized housing should be able to do it.


81 posted on 07/18/2008 12:28:57 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: autumnraine

I lived on red beans and rice and sausage when I was a poor squid


82 posted on 07/18/2008 12:30:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: autumnraine

Damn skippy!
These people just arnt trying


83 posted on 07/18/2008 12:31:03 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: fishtank
“I’m trying to get a job,” Hernandez says. “I just can’t get a job.”

No $hit Sehrlock. What employer would want your ugly fat a$$ being the first thing a customer sees when they walk through the door!!

84 posted on 07/18/2008 12:37:25 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: Sub-Driver

I was afraid to click “enlarge” under the picture...my computer only has so much RAM.


85 posted on 07/18/2008 12:37:27 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: radiohead

My husband is diabetic and I had to stop frying everything. On a rare rare occassion I will fry some fries for the kids, but only in the heart healthy oil (as heart healthy as you can get in oil). The only thing I had trouble with was cube steak (we eat the turkey cube steak) and knowing how to make it taste good without frying. I started using cream of mushroom soup, 98% fat free and baking it. It is really good over brown rice!


86 posted on 07/18/2008 12:38:09 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Mr. Jeeves
NPR does more harm than good to their cause...

Years ago, the NYT (I believe) did a spread on rural poverty in America that was supposed to evoke the audience's sympathy, I guess.

The couple who was the subject of the article had named their son "Chevyvan" because that was where he'd been conceived. Their photo, taken on a Sunday morning, showed them sitting at their kitchen table that was literally covered with empty beer cans.

87 posted on 07/18/2008 12:38:13 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: wideawake

And it’s not like they don’t have the time to prepare the food, even the kind that actually requires cooking. I bought some collards the other day for $2. I will cook them, eat them a night or two and freeze the rest. Two dollars for about 5 or 6 meals. It just takes effort.


88 posted on 07/18/2008 12:39:36 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: mylife

That sounds like a good meal to me, and I am not what you would consider poor!


89 posted on 07/18/2008 12:41:11 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Madame Dufarge

I Met a fellow named “Darvon” cuz thats what they gave mama to ease labor pains.

When my Son was born, there was a little baby girl at the hospital that they named “Female” pronounced “Fem Molly” because thats what the hospital tagged the crib with.

Lazy lazy people


90 posted on 07/18/2008 12:44:43 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is absolutely pathetic. They can’t get jobs and wonder WHY?????!!!!! I can’t even imagine them being able to perform most jobs at all. While I have some sympathy for the extremely obese, the reality is it’s simple MATH, people, more calories need to go out than come in!!!

Also, if they were THAT poor, they would not be THAT obese. Food costs money. They probably eat out alot is my guess.


91 posted on 07/18/2008 12:46:02 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: autumnraine

You can make enough money picking up pop bottles to eat decent if uncle sugar is paying for housing and utilities


92 posted on 07/18/2008 12:46:09 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Marie

I don’t think they are malnourished at all. They are probably not eating nutrients that are healthy but I bet they are eating tons of meat AND carbs AND cheese/dairy too!! Guaranteed.


93 posted on 07/18/2008 12:47:11 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

Its thier metabolism. It cant near handle all the burgers they are trying to shovel through it!


94 posted on 07/18/2008 12:47:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Yeah, the car accident is the cause for the depression, not the fact that I look like something Captain Ahab is out trolling for.


95 posted on 07/18/2008 12:48:40 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: mylife

LOL!!


96 posted on 07/18/2008 12:49:27 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: I still care
From the article, the mother was disabled from a car accident. Same thing happened to me, I can’t criticize.

The accident was 17 years ago. She is 40. She has NEVER had a job.

Very poor attempt at propaganda NPR!

97 posted on 07/18/2008 12:49:29 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
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To: mylife

Well, yes actually.
But it requires time. And work. Can’t expect that of these folks, can we?


98 posted on 07/18/2008 12:51:20 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

Good points. If this is the best NPR can do, one wonders.

So many people never are accountable for their actions. I have a dear friend that, sadly, is morbidly obese and underwent gastric bypass several years ago to save her life. She lost 100 lbs. but is still about 150 lbs. overweight.

Several years ago, we went to dinner at a nice Italian place and she got a huge plate of pasta. After she ate 3/4 of the plate (which could have fed 3 people), she exclaimed, “oh I am full” and I said, “Okay, then just quit eating.” She looked at me with this mean expression and started shoveling it in and finished it off. It gave me such insight into her problem. I still don’t know why she would sabotage herself like that.


99 posted on 07/18/2008 12:53:22 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

Jeez, FReepers.

We’re slipping here.

100 replies and no one yet has wondered where Mr Nunez - the husband, father and breadwinner of the family - is.

Oh. I forgot. This is a liberal NPR report. Fathers are not important here. As we all know: Fathers have been replaced by a welfare check.


100 posted on 07/18/2008 12:54:17 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yo prometo lealtad a la bandera de los Estados Unidos de America, y a la Republica que representa...)
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