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Angry parents remove dangerously overheated playground mats
NY Daily News ^ | July 22, 2008 | JEFF WILKINS, ELIZABETH HAYS and RACHEL MONAHAN

Posted on 07/22/2008 11:55:31 AM PDT by Alouette

These city playgrounds aren't for child's play.

Black rubber mats designed to break a child's fall turn blistering hot in the summer, soaring to higher than 165 degrees, a Daily News investigation found.

Doctors at two city hospital burn units reported seeing 16 to 18 young children with playground burns a year, mostly from the mats under junglegyms and sliding boards.

"I have nightmares," said Anne Casson, whose toddler son, Will, ditched his shoes at Carl Schurz Park on the upper East Side one day last May.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: danger; nannystate; playground
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Rubber mats? When I was a kid playgrounds were CONCRETE. And you could fry an egg on them in the summer.
1 posted on 07/22/2008 11:55:32 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: Alouette
My God!!! In Britain these parents would be put in concentration camps.
2 posted on 07/22/2008 11:57:42 AM PDT by Porterville (I hasten karmic justice through revenge.)
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To: Alouette

I was thinking the same thing....we dangled on monkey bars 10 feet above asphalt. lol


3 posted on 07/22/2008 11:58:23 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Alouette

Concrete-You must have been a rich kid. We had dirt!


4 posted on 07/22/2008 11:59:24 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: Dr. Ursus
Dirt? Oh how we wished we had dirt.

All we had were big piles of old, rusty razor blades.

And we were glad to have them!

5 posted on 07/22/2008 12:01:11 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Alouette
Whats wrong with good old fashioned sand?
6 posted on 07/22/2008 12:01:53 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Slapshot68

Growing up, our playgrounds were covered with punji stakes and venomous snakes and we still had a good time.

Kids are so spoiled today.


7 posted on 07/22/2008 12:02:23 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Concrete, Dirt.

We were really lucky we had a mud puddle much of the time.


8 posted on 07/22/2008 12:02:31 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ( We say they said, but we should remember , we are they.)
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To: Slapshot68

Yes. I used to shinny up the pole at one end of the giant swing set, and then monkey-swing my way across the length of the top bar and down the other side.

Over hot, black asphalt.

Well, the trial lawyers are going to love this one! Damned if they do, and damned if they don’t. Probably the best solution is to close down all the playgrounds!


9 posted on 07/22/2008 12:02:33 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Alouette
When I was a kid playgrounds were CONCRETE.

Yeah, and look how YOU turned out.

Don't wanna have any more right-wingers!

It's for the children, dontcha know.

10 posted on 07/22/2008 12:02:35 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Knitebane
All we had were big piles of old, rusty razor blades.

That's nothing. Our rusty razor blades were mixed with unexploded ordnance.

11 posted on 07/22/2008 12:03:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ThomasThomas

Feet-You had feet!


12 posted on 07/22/2008 12:03:27 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: AppyPappy

You had a play ground? Why, when we were kids, we lived in a shoebox along the side of the road, and before school, we awoke every morning at 4 to sweep the streets. AND we were thankful!


13 posted on 07/22/2008 12:04:09 PM PDT by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: Alouette

BLACK rubber mats. Out in the sun; during the summer.

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER GENIUS !!!!!!


14 posted on 07/22/2008 12:04:43 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Jagged ROCKS for us....


15 posted on 07/22/2008 12:05:33 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: Alouette

Um, why don’t they put some nice, fluffy white SAND on these playgrounds?
I assume they are already fenced, which would keep the cats out of the sand....


16 posted on 07/22/2008 12:05:51 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Just say NObama!)
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Here’s and idea parents. Make sure your kids dont take their shoes off when it’s 95 degrees outside. In order to accomplish this you must put down the cell phone and pay attention.


17 posted on 07/22/2008 12:06:18 PM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: Dr. Ursus

12 great comments - another DUH moment in NY!


18 posted on 07/22/2008 12:08:03 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: Alouette

Good - The city was practicing CYA by installing mats
Bad - Black rubber mats will end up causing burns

My town park uses recycled rubber in a pretty shade of terra cotta that’s been shredded to look like mulch. Safe and no burns.


19 posted on 07/22/2008 12:08:33 PM PDT by Dasaji (The U.S.A. is the Land of Opportunity and you've got 50 states to do it in!)
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To: Alouette

Someone is objecting to black rubber mats?

That’s racist.


20 posted on 07/22/2008 12:08:54 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Alaska has the oil. The Senate has the dipsticks.)
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To: Knitebane
All we had were big piles of old, rusty razor blades.


21 posted on 07/22/2008 12:09:18 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: WayneS

Jagged rocks? Such luxury! We had NOTHING, just empty space all the way down. We would have been grateful for rocks!


22 posted on 07/22/2008 12:11:44 PM PDT by Mountain Troll
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To: Dr. Ursus
Feet-You had feet! ?

I still do have two
Hope you do too

They pretty much left us alone till little Timmy found the shot gun shell and started pounding on it with a rock. They also were fussy about bear sightings.

23 posted on 07/22/2008 12:13:05 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ( We say they said, but we should remember , we are they.)
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To: Slapshot68

Ah! those monkey bars were get you ready for basic training!


24 posted on 07/22/2008 12:13:23 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: Alouette

I went to a new Elementary School that had just been built and for the first two years the playground was shell gravel.


25 posted on 07/22/2008 12:14:37 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Black dogs and bacon bombs.)
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To: Slapshot68

MONKEY bars?

Isn’t that racist?


26 posted on 07/22/2008 12:16:43 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: Alouette

We had nice soft blue-stone gravel at our local playground. They later replaced it with kitty-litter sand. Monkeybars were great for getting rid of those unwanted baby teeth.


27 posted on 07/22/2008 12:18:22 PM PDT by fella ("...He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Charlespg
Whats wrong with good old fashioned sand?

Two things.

Stray cats like sand too.

Sand gets tracked into the SUV carpet.

28 posted on 07/22/2008 12:18:53 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: a real Sheila
Um, why don’t they put some nice, fluffy white SAND on these playgrounds? I assume they are already fenced, which would keep the cats out of the sand....

Most playgrounds are rarely fenced. Sand also gets in kids shoes and clothes.

Mulch like that used in landscaping often works pretty well for playgrounds. It clings to shoes and clothes less, but isn't mess free either.

Shredded car tires are also an option, but can get pretty hot in the hot sun.

Mats are likely easier to maintain, but black is pretty obviously not the ideal color for keeping them reasonably cool.

29 posted on 07/22/2008 12:19:08 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Alouette

The Parks Commissioner said the mats would not be removed, and that their playgrounds “are the safest in the world”.

Sure, Mr. Commissioner, as long as no one falls while they are playing.


30 posted on 07/22/2008 12:20:17 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: 1rudeboy

[unexploded ordnance]

You had UNexploded ordnance? Ours were exploding all the time.


31 posted on 07/22/2008 12:20:26 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Dr. Ursus

We had dirt and the park with the most stuff had one swingset, one slide and one set of monkey bars. It was a really tall slide and we went there without our parents and we took wax paper to make us go faster.


32 posted on 07/22/2008 12:20:52 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: 1rudeboy
That's nothing. Our rusty razor blades were mixed with unexploded ordnance.

Spoiled brat.

We never got toys like that.

33 posted on 07/22/2008 12:21:31 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Ondnance? Aye, you were lucky...

Our jungle gym consisted of a single greased pole suspended sideways over an open-top septic tank.


34 posted on 07/22/2008 12:21:32 PM PDT by gridlock (Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons. .. (FREE LAZAMATAZ!))
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To: Alouette

There was a great playground in Raleigh that uses ground up rubber from old tires as the “sand.” It’s a very interesting recycling use. Slightly bouncy but doesn’t get everywhere like sand or wood chips.


35 posted on 07/22/2008 12:21:54 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (How 'bout a magic trick? I'm gonna make this pencil disappear...Ta-dah!)
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To: Alouette

[These city playgrounds aren’t for child’s play.]

...and yet you take them there?


36 posted on 07/22/2008 12:22:13 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: WayneS

****Jagged ROCKS for us....***

That was it? We had broken beer bottles and cactus! Made us tough!


37 posted on 07/22/2008 12:22:15 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Alouette

We learned why it’s important to hang on tight. -mks


38 posted on 07/22/2008 12:22:33 PM PDT by Wagonboy (STOP GLOBAL WHINING!)
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To: ThomasThomas

Shotgun shells are GREAT fun for the kiddies.

All they need to do is just slide one into a short piece of the proper diameter galvanized pipe (taken from Dad’s garage), prop the pipe up on some boards so as to aim it at its intended target, then stand back and shoot at the primer with a BB/pellet gun.

It is both fun and educational “play” for any child. It helps them develop their burgeoning marksmanship skills and can even necessitate the learning of first-aid procedures in a “real world” environment.

Just don’t ask me how I know this.


39 posted on 07/22/2008 12:27:16 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: gridlock

Alligators. Don’t forget the alligators.


40 posted on 07/22/2008 12:28:39 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: Alouette
How did I survive my childhood?

1. Played baseball un-supervised, no helmets.
2. Bicycles without helmets.
3. Roller skates without knee-elbow pads, helmets.
4. Swimming in pre-EPA rivers.
5. Ice skating/hockey on somewhat frozen ponds, no helmets.

41 posted on 07/22/2008 12:28:48 PM PDT by AU72
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Feet-You had feet!

I've got two feet
From my knees to the ground
And when I move them
I walk around
And when I lift them
I climb the stairs
And when I shave them
They ain't got hairs

Sorry, I couldn't resist

42 posted on 07/22/2008 12:29:09 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: WayneS

In New York City, the alligators are assumed...


43 posted on 07/22/2008 12:29:35 PM PDT by gridlock (Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons. .. (FREE LAZAMATAZ!))
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The silliness of nanny state liberalism. Spending your money to make more problems.

There was nothing wrong with sand. But boo whooo, it got in little johnny's eyes and little Jimmy ate it, presumably after the neighbors cat buried it's poo in it.

I don't recall anyone dying from it from the 1900's- up till the time I was born,(50's) and in the 60's and 70's that followed.

After that, it was pea gravel, but skinned knee's became the next cause of little Johnny's tears.

Then of course, steal play structures caused little Johnny to bruise his head, so wood was used instead, then little johnny ate the wood, and began to pee the bed.

It never ends. Perhaps liberals should keep their kids indoors, and leave other kids to play.

44 posted on 07/22/2008 12:29:48 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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[we lived in a shoebox]

You had a shoebox??? We lived under some tar paper and had to get up at 3am to beat the garbage truck pickup to find food.


45 posted on 07/22/2008 12:31:32 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Future Snake Eater
There was a great playground in Raleigh that uses ground up rubber from old tires as the “sand.”

We used to get the used asbestos they removed from buildings to play with in our sandbox. Sometimes, they threw in some fiberglass insulation material to make it more interesting.

It was really fun.

46 posted on 07/22/2008 12:32:38 PM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: gridlock

Right.

Sorry.

My bad!


47 posted on 07/22/2008 12:32:38 PM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: RetSignman
You had UNexploded ordnance? Ours were exploding all the time.

Sout [sic] side of Chicago. We were so poor we had to make our own from scratch.

48 posted on 07/22/2008 12:33:01 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RetSignman; abigkahuna
You had a shoebox??? We lived under some tar paper and had to get up at 3am to beat the garbage truck pickup to find food.

We lived in a dumpster behind KFC. We never had to chase the garbage truck, but we had to get up early to climb out when the trucks came to clean and empty our home. We sure never wanted for food.

49 posted on 07/22/2008 12:35:31 PM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: WayneS
"Just don’t ask me how I know this.

I remember discovering that shot shells placed in that little tie down loop on the forks of my balloon tired bike made a good shot shell holder for those BB gun practice shooting days.

Back in the day, cops never batted an eye to any kid carrying around a pellet gun, or even a shot gun if you were 14 years old.
At 16, we kept a shot gun in the locker at school to take duck hunting after school.

Now a 4 year old playing with a pink cap gun causes alarm and deployments of swat teams.

50 posted on 07/22/2008 12:35:47 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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