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Why did the US Lose the Vietnam War?
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Posted on 07/22/2008 4:25:19 PM PDT by shrinkermd

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How a person, especially a politician, answers this question determines how they see America and how they see the Iraq War.
1 posted on 07/22/2008 4:25:19 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
America did not lose the war militarily. We fought and bombed the North to the negotiating table where a peace was struck that was very favorable to the South and the US. We then began withdrawing and for all intents and purposes, the war had been won.

Then, two years later, the North violated their own treaty and invaded.

We simple did not re-engage and continued a percipitous withdrawal.

It was a shameful display by our politicians. We lost politically as almost all of the enemy leaders wrote in their memoirs, even though they admitted to losing time and again, and abjectly, militarily on the battlefield.

It has taken us decades to overcome it and now we have a candidate who wants to repeat the same mistake again.

2 posted on 07/22/2008 4:29:51 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: shrinkermd

Democrat Congress defunded South Vietnam, and it fell.


3 posted on 07/22/2008 4:29:58 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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To: shrinkermd

Bull Sh**. The only answer to this is that the US did NOT lose the war. The politicians forced a withdrawal on us. The Vietcong was done, we won but the MSM lied and more soldiers died. There are no various answers, only one truthful answer. The US was betrayed by the left wing media and by communist a**hats such as Jane Fonda. I was there, I lived through it. Tout your “it depends on your point of view” somewhere else. We lost because the frickin’ communist traitors here in the US forced it on us.


4 posted on 07/22/2008 4:31:17 PM PDT by calex59
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To: shrinkermd

ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT...


5 posted on 07/22/2008 4:32:12 PM PDT by xDGx
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Yes, I agree, but the conventional wisdom is we did lose the VietNam War. The MSM, colleges, universities and many others frequently refer to the war as lost, and I would guess that this has convinced the majority of the population of this view.


6 posted on 07/22/2008 4:32:42 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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An embittered and tearful President Thieu resigned on the same day, declaring that the United States had betrayed South Vietnam. In a scathing attack on the US, he suggested U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger had tricked him into signing the Paris peace agreement two years ago, promising military aid which then failed to materialise.

"At the time of the peace agreement the United States agreed to replace equipment on a one-by-one basis," he said. "But the United States did not keep its word. Is an American's word reliable these days?" He continued, "The United States did not keep its promise to help us fight for freedom and it was in the same fight that the United States lost 50,000 of its young men."[121]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

7 posted on 07/22/2008 4:32:55 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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God bless you my friend. My dad was also there and it was with him till the day he died. The only answer is the Communist left and the media. Walter Kronasswipe.


8 posted on 07/22/2008 4:34:40 PM PDT by crazydad
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There was a program about Dien Bien Phu on TV several years ago. I had never really studied the battle and still don't know that much about it.

There is one thing about it which struck me as the only thing that mattered. The French were out numbered something like 100 to 1 and fought about as well as any soldiers have ever fought. The Communists were not brilliant or brave or anything heroic. They simply overwhelmed the French. After they won, they then demonstrated real brutality toward their victims.

9 posted on 07/22/2008 4:34:42 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: calex59

Amen.


10 posted on 07/22/2008 4:34:51 PM PDT by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks (boat steersman ) hell)
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To: shrinkermd
The reason Saigon fell was also the fact that the South Vietnamese Army was not willing to stand and fight for their own country.

The reason Saigon fell was also the fact that the South Vietnamese Army had no arms with which to fight for their own country, courtesy of the US Congress controlled by Democrats reneging on treaty obligations.

11 posted on 07/22/2008 4:34:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Gerald Ford took over as U.S. president on August 9, 1974 after President Nixon resigned due to the Watergate scandal. At this time, Congress cut financial aid to South Vietnam from $1 billion a year to $700 million. The U.S. midterm elections in 1974 brought in a new Congress dominated by Democrats who were even more determined to confront the president on the war. Congress immediately voted in restrictions on funding and military activities to be phased in through 1975 and to culminate in a total cutoff of funding in 1976.


12 posted on 07/22/2008 4:35:24 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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Lose the Vietnam War?

..the only thing we lost in Viet Nam was a propaganda war.

We simply withdrew and the political left made sure that the Communists defeated S. Viet Nam--We Did Not Lose...

13 posted on 07/22/2008 4:36:04 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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Thank you for your service in time of war. My DEROS was 17 May 1969. I have never thought we lost, but almost everyone I know professionally does believe we lost.

If the MSM wanted truth, they could ask Senators McCain and Obama whether they believe the US lost the VietNam War. That would be an answer worth listening to.


14 posted on 07/22/2008 4:36:49 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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The Vietnam War was a win.

The purpose was to stop the advance of Communism. North Vietnam could have been taken in any given three week period, but that was not the purpose.

Communism stopped right there. The Leftists and Fellow Travellers never saw that and still don’t.


15 posted on 07/22/2008 4:36:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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12. We lost the war because John Kerry only stayed 3 months. Had he stayed the full tour of duty, he would have won the war by himself.


16 posted on 07/22/2008 4:37:12 PM PDT by stylin19a
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"The Vietnam War was a win. Communism stopped right there."

A few million Cambodians would care to disagree:

Oh yeah, they can't.

17 posted on 07/22/2008 4:39:09 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bernanke is a Monetary Slut!)
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To: shrinkermd

The question should be, “How did the US lose the Vietnam War after winning it?”

Answer: the commie-symp Congress


18 posted on 07/22/2008 4:42:05 PM PDT by KingSnorky
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To: Uncle Miltie

Give the man a cigar—as long as it’s not a Cuban cigar.


19 posted on 07/22/2008 4:42:24 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle
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Thank you for your service in time of war. My DEROS was 17 May 1969. I have never thought we lost, but almost everyone I know professionally does believe we lost. If the MSM wanted truth, they could ask Senators McCain and Obama whether they believe the US lost the VietNam War. That would be an answer worth listening to.

God bless you for your service. I know we never lost. Thanks for your support.

20 posted on 07/22/2008 4:42:36 PM PDT by calex59
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