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Once a migrant worker, today he’s a brain surgeon
TODAY.MSNBC.MSN.COM ^ | 7-23-2008 | Bob Dotson

Posted on 07/23/2008 4:57:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers

“Dr. Q” has a theory about how to cure cancer that he can’t wait to tell me.

I look around at his lab assistants, their faces a rainbow of colors — intense, smart, listening. Their parents come from many parts of the world. Dr. Q has chosen them to test his theory: that a team of scientists from a diversity of backgrounds might find a cure for cancer more quickly, because each would see the problem differently.

The lab at Johns Hopkins Medical Center in Baltimore we’re all gathered in belongs to Dr. Alfredo Quinones-Hinojosa — “Dr. Q.” He is one of the best brain surgeons in the world, but two decades ago, his hands were picking vegetables for $22 a day. Quinones was a migrant worker, living under an old camper top in the middle of a California field.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; healthcare; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; johnshopkins; medicine; meltingpot
I wish more of our border-jumpers were like this.

Cheers!

1 posted on 07/23/2008 4:57:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: grey_whiskers
Ironically, the brain surgeon followed his heart, not his brain: He became a U.S. citizen rather than return to Mexico a hero. He felt he owed this country for all the opportunity it had given him.
MEGABUMP!

2 posted on 07/23/2008 5:02:23 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: grey_whiskers

They never talk about “opportunity” cost in these stories.

1. How did he pay for Harvard? If not, did he get US taxpayer money? Did he pay back the subsidies?

2. Were legal citizens displaced from a seat in the medical program, as a result?

3. Wasn’t this cutting in line?

4. Is an American who might have become a neurosurgeon using that seat & resources now poorer as a result?

etc.


3 posted on 07/23/2008 5:04:18 PM PDT by 4Liberty (discount window = bank corporate welfare + inflation tax)
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To: grey_whiskers

One illegal becomes a brain surgeon. So, how many million illegals should be given amnesty because of this?

But maybe this story should be passed along to Juan McCain. He can tell it right after he refuses to deport any illegal aliens because of the one illegal alien mother whose son was said to be MIA in Iraq.


4 posted on 07/23/2008 5:09:18 PM PDT by Will88
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To: grey_whiskers
Umm....this is just a "why don't we give them all amnesty now because they'll all be brain surgeons" story.

It's remarkable because it is remarkable. The other 19,999,999 million of them will just be....Mexicans who want to get onto U.S. handout programs, and vote to make it so.

But a few little notes....

How come he didn't go home to Mexico for medical school? UNAM is actually well known for its medical school - lots of Americans, displaced by foreigners and race based preferences, go there. They just have to actually pay for the education.

Which brings up another little topic: was this guy admitted to Harvard 'cuz he's so durn smart, or because of his brown skin and immigration criminal backstory?

I think the latter is sorta obvious. The competition to get into any UC system school and then medical school at Harvard is rather beyond intense. I've known some of the smartest people on the planet (multiple engineering degrees from Stanford, for example) who didn't get into that medical school. I'd be really surprised if his academic performance alone put him there.

Once again, all part of the Hate Americans agenda of the Gramscian Marxist elite in this country: "see, illegals are better than you, stupid gringo's! Now get back to work and let us run things, life will be better under Mexican Socialism".

5 posted on 07/23/2008 5:11:17 PM PDT by Regulator (Obama = Mugabe)
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To: grey_whiskers
True or not its propaganda to make us think that ALL illegal will one day be equivalent to a brain surgeon, therefore we should allow the Mexican invasion.

Don’t tear down a fence, until you know why it was put up. – African proverb

6 posted on 07/23/2008 5:17:32 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: grey_whiskers

”He is one of the best brain surgeons in the world,”

And just how was that determined, and by whom?


7 posted on 07/23/2008 5:21:31 PM PDT by Will88
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To: grey_whiskers
Great story, and I love this guy, but he begs the question here:

“Can we build walls?” he asks rhetorically. “Sure, we're gonna build walls. Can we make ’em taller? Sure, we can make ’em taller. Would that be a solution? As long as there's poverty, and as long as people are dying of hunger in other places, it's human nature. They will try to find better ways.”

Why are people successful here, and starving in Mexico? Obviously there are a lot of silly socialist answers to that question, but they're obviously hollow and unbelievable.

People need to keep asking that question.

8 posted on 07/23/2008 5:23:19 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"—Shelby Steele)
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To: grey_whiskers
...let's see one brain surgeon educated by US tax payers money for every 500,000 law breakers currently shipping 10 billion dollars a year back to Mexico...seems about right
9 posted on 07/23/2008 5:25:14 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Will88
And just how was that determined, and by whom?

By a rocket scientist...

10 posted on 07/23/2008 5:26:38 PM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: denydenydeny
If the guy's so damn smart, how come he can't give an intelligent answer to his own question?

He says that as long as there is poverty people will find "better ways", which we are supposed to intuit means "break into the other guy's country and guilt trip him into paying for me".

If that's "smart", then every Mafia guy is a genius.

11 posted on 07/23/2008 5:48:54 PM PDT by Regulator (Obama = Mugabe)
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To: grey_whiskers
Great! Now let's open the borders and maybe we will get another brain surgeon out of the next 15 million ILLEGAL Immigrants. Now what do the other 14,000,999 plan to do with their lives?

The answer to the problem is to overthrow the MEXICAN Gov’t, get rid of the crooks and improve conditions in Mexico so these people will stay home!!!

12 posted on 07/23/2008 5:50:51 PM PDT by BatGuano (We're not playing Tidally Winks here!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I bet he’s proud of this country, too.


13 posted on 07/23/2008 5:52:02 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: BatGuano

$22.00 per day? That was not bad money so long ago.


14 posted on 07/23/2008 5:52:47 PM PDT by BatGuano (We're not playing Tidally Winks here!)
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To: BatGuano

Looks like a good place for this

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html


15 posted on 07/23/2008 5:53:33 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: grey_whiskers

This doctor was featured on “Hopkins” which is a summer replacement on ABC.....pretty good actually.As for the doctor...make him pay for whatever education he got and didn’t pay for and then deport his a$$.


16 posted on 07/23/2008 5:59:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I know this really great story about a guy who robbed a bank.

He went to college and became wealthy. With the money he stole he also got braces for his kids, and sent them to college.

He bought a really nice house and all of his neighbors love him!

It’s such a heartwarming story. We need more people like this guy in our country.


17 posted on 07/23/2008 6:10:31 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: grey_whiskers
And one more little comment.

The guy admits to breaking U.S. immigration laws.

Regardless of how he was amnestied, did he have to plead guilty to his crime and get a record?

If so, how would he have gotten a DEA clearance to prescribe drugs? Every new MD has to do that.

If not, why not?

I have pointed this out before. One of the worst things about amnesties is that they don't just reward the criminal with U.S. citizenship or residency, they also get more than any citizen would get under some sort of pardon scheme: they never have to admit under oath what they did.

Which means that the next thing you know, you're staring into the face of a police officer who may have been a guy guilty of a laundry list of federal crimes.

Or maybe even a surgeon.

18 posted on 07/23/2008 6:16:25 PM PDT by Regulator (Obama = Mugabe)
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To: grey_whiskers

How much free surgery does he perform on Americans to pay back what he received as an ILLEGAL immigrant?

This story was in Readers Digest months ago and in my opinion, is designed to show how beneficial ILLEGALS are for Amercia.

One, out of how many millions?

Did he remain here to repay America? Or, stay to gain wealth?


19 posted on 07/23/2008 6:18:41 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: grey_whiskers
SURE he chose his lab staff so that they were all international..! Sure!

Hey, I'll tell ya, the US ed system sucks so bad, it's profoundly typical for research labs to be 75% or more non-American.

MAAAAny research labs are 50%+ Chinese.

20 posted on 07/23/2008 6:19:21 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: grey_whiskers
A long time ago on the West Coast, one of my majors was French (I know, so stop right there).

I had a dim, but super sweet Mexican classmate Blanca. She had close-cropped hair, and she was the extremely rare type of diesel dyke who nice to men (or just me?).

I'd help her struggle through her papers, but the profs loved her, and much later I found out that she had let on to them that she was technically an illegal alien.

At several very ribald junctures in our friendship, she would let her Gallows Humor out, and talk about dyke fisting. Apparently she sometimes apprised the UC profs about this, too.

Yeah, they sent her to Harvard for grad-school....ON SCHOLARSHIP.

Come on! THEY"RE DESPERATE FOR STORIES LIKE THIS!

21 posted on 07/23/2008 6:25:21 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: grey_whiskers

Another one that chooses not to return to the rat hole called Mehico.


22 posted on 07/23/2008 6:46:28 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
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To: grey_whiskers

btt


23 posted on 07/23/2008 6:54:09 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Regulator
Regardless of how he was amnestied, did he have to plead guilty to his crime and get a record?

If so, how would he have gotten a DEA clearance to prescribe drugs? Every new MD has to do that.

If not, why not?

Well seeing as how being an illegal immigrant is actually not a violation of criminal code, no he would not have a criminal record. This isn't making an excuse for illegal immigration, it's simply a technical fact.

24 posted on 07/23/2008 7:24:00 PM PDT by scarface367
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To: scarface367

Well seeing as how being an illegal immigrant is actually not a violation of criminal code, no he would not have a criminal record. This isn’t making an excuse for illegal immigration, it’s simply a technical fact.

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You are wrong. You’ve fallen for the myth created by the pro-criminal axis. The truth is it is a crime the civil penalties are in addition to the criminal charge.

Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, “Improper Entry by Alien,” any citizen of any country other than the United States who:

* Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
* Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
* Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;

has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.

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Since 1929, illegal entry into the United States has been a federal crime, a misdemeanor.

The penalty for a first offense is up to six months in jail or prison and/or a fine of $50 to $250. But the charge is rarely used, even when people are caught at the border, according to a Congressional Research Service report on May 3. Most are deported or allowed to leave the U.S. voluntarily to avoid overwhelming courts and detention centers, the report said.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2006/Jun/11/unlawful-entry-a-crime-since-29/

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It isn’t surprising that you don’t know this because the MSM spreads that lie as if it were the truth. But the real fact is they are criminals.


25 posted on 07/23/2008 7:47:43 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA

I apologize as it appears I stand corrected. But still, prosecution is next to impossible as you have to actually prove the case.


26 posted on 07/23/2008 8:07:40 PM PDT by scarface367
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To: scarface367

Prosecution is rare because the penalties are so small and the prosecutors make their careers convictions that produce headlines, not from putting criminals away for 6 months. Were they doing their jobs it might be hard to prove the criminal entered the country illegally but it would be easy to prove they “Eluded examination or inspection by immigration officers” while here and the criminals would be looking at doing 6 months for their crimes.

If the criminal is also working he has committed perjury when he falsified and signed the I9 form all people must sign to be employed. The perjury charge is a felony and a no-brainer to prove. Perjury can get a perp 5 years in a federal pen. The federal prosecutors are just not bringing the charges.


27 posted on 07/23/2008 8:38:28 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA; scarface367
Thanks to SUSSA for a concise response.

And the point is well taken: the laundry list of crimes that the illegal commits are almost never prosecuted.

That fact rarely comes up in the debate. But this is not an accident: "talking down" illegal immigration as a crime is a deliberate propaganda initiative begun in the 1970's by the sedition organizations such as La Raza Unida, and guys like Bert Corona, the inventor of the Marxist phrase "undocumented worker".

It is commonplace for them to insist illegal immigration is not a crime, 8 USC 1325 notwithstanding. It is simply a lie, and if repeated enough times (a Saul Alinsky tactic), people start to repeat it.

But many people understand that now, and prosecutions are starting again. Prior to the 1970's they were commonplace in the Southwest.

Illegals commit many crimes either knowingly or unknowingly. The first act begets a series of ongoing crimes which are not single point but persistent.

Thus "amnesty" for them is a monstrosity: they literally escape prosecution for many crimes, and never even so much as have a record. Once amnestied, it's like it all never happened. And they can be police, doctors, judges, politicians, soldiers with access to high class weaponry, even security clearances. Every nook and cranny of American life is available to them once off the immigration hook.

Where's the justice in that?

28 posted on 07/23/2008 8:54:53 PM PDT by Regulator (Obama = Mugabe)
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29 posted on 07/24/2008 9:43:21 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: TruthNtegrity

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30 posted on 07/24/2008 1:59:03 PM PDT by TruthNtegrity (RIP Tony Snow. - praying for his family and friends.)
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To: Regulator
Illegals commit many crimes either knowingly or unknowingly. The first act begets a series of ongoing crimes which are not single point but persistent.

Thus "amnesty" for them is a monstrosity: they literally escape prosecution for many crimes, and never even so much as have a record. Once amnestied, it's like it all never happened. And they can be police, doctors, judges, politicians, soldiers with access to high class weaponry, even security clearances. Every nook and cranny of American life is available to them once off the immigration hook.

Where's the justice in that?

The justice system is a machine that steals money and ruins lives for its self-perpetuation...much like other tax-payer funded programs but far more destructive. It needs to be re-writ like the U.S. tax code.

31 posted on 07/25/2008 10:57:24 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus ("This isn't a court of justice, sir. It is a court of law." - Learned Hand)
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