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What If Iraq Works?
Townhall.com ^ | July 31, 2008 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/31/2008 4:16:15 AM PDT by Kaslin

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Thanks to the best President of this century if not all times
1 posted on 07/31/2008 4:16:15 AM PDT by Kaslin
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There is a growing confidence among officers, diplomats and politicians that a constitutional Iraq is going to make it.

True, if the stupid dimlibs leave it alone and let it happen.

2 posted on 07/31/2008 4:19:33 AM PDT by Marauder (Damn the Bolsheviks to hell.)
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Thanks to the best President of this century if not all times

We'll miss him when he leaves office... but this statement is delusional.

3 posted on 07/31/2008 4:23:35 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: Marauder

It took us from 1776 to 1789 to seat our first President with 7 years of war in the mix...and the war of 1812 was to follow.


4 posted on 07/31/2008 4:23:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: johnny7

“if not” can be taken a number of ways. Certainly “for our times” is arguable.


5 posted on 07/31/2008 4:28:39 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: johnny7

I stick to my opinion and you can stick to yours, okay?


6 posted on 07/31/2008 4:29:21 AM PDT by Kaslin (Vote Democrat if you like high gas prices at the pump)
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And the best president of this century (so far) is absolutely indubitable.


7 posted on 07/31/2008 4:46:11 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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Thanks to the best President of this century if not all times

Lincoln was despised and ridiculed when alive (and narrowly re-elected). The Civil War was so unpopular that there were draft riots borderng on an insurrection in New York in 1863. Federal troops, fresh from Gettysburg, had to be sent to New York to restore order. (My patronymic great-great grandfather was a police captain and precinct commander at the time.)

Bush lacks Lincoln's eloquence and his formative experiences. Still, he exhibits a strong character and commitment to principle. He is far more competent than his critics portray him, but not equal in stature to Lincoln or Washington. Bush, like is father, is loyal, almost too loyal, to subordinates (something that Clinton never was) but seems to lack judgment in their selection, e.g., Scott McClellan.

Faced with the aftermath of 9/11 I do not think that Bush engaged in political calculation, but did what he thought was right. In this he acted in a manner almost the exact opposite of how Clinton would have reacted, a person for whom all decisions were based primarily on political calculation. His opponents, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid were never so constrained and he has paid the price.

Still, politics is reality. One of FDR's strength's during the War was his mastery of the political. He succeeded in rallying almost complete and unanimous support for an enormously costly and bloody war.

In the end, Bush will probably be seen as not wanting in character, but over his head in terms of ability to lead and inspire.

8 posted on 07/31/2008 5:01:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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I stick to my opinion and you can stick to yours, okay?

Stick to whatever you want... delusional is still delusional.

Dubya was/is a good president... his action in Afghanistan and Iraq will be looked upon favorably by presidential historians. But Iraq and Afghanistan are only two “storefronts” of the enemy we face... and that enemy is Islam. G. W. Bush fell short in his duty to explain that to the American citizen... it hurts us now and will will only hurt us more in the future.

This alone disqualifies him from your accolades.

9 posted on 07/31/2008 5:13:56 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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Thanks to the best President of this century...

At least until 2012.

10 posted on 07/31/2008 5:31:33 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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Amen to that. For sure President Bush is one of our greatest President and eventually history will remember him as such. Our amazing Victory in Iraq has been achieved by the very strong leadership of President Bush and the incredible bravery and professionalism of our US troops the best military in history of mankind.
11 posted on 07/31/2008 5:39:30 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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I’d like to see Iraq’s Prime Minister al-Maliki hold a press conference on November 1st listing all of the obstacles that Iraq has overcome, including liberal opposition in the United States, while standing in front of a banner that says “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”.


12 posted on 07/31/2008 5:40:02 AM PDT by riskybiz ($$$$ and votes are the coinage of Congress)
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The enemy is radical Islam. You appear to be trying to paint them all with a broad brush, which is delusional. What religion did the Jordanian agents subscribe to? You know, the ones that pinpointed Zarqari’s location?

“G. W. Bush fell short in his duty to explain that to the American citizen...”

We have military set up all over the Muslim world, Kuwait, Bahrain, U.A.E., Qatar, Iraq, Afghanistan, ect...and you want him to denounce Islam?


13 posted on 07/31/2008 5:42:04 AM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
History will not mention many of the details that you posted. Presidents legacies are not remembered by those details. Great Presidents are first and foremost remembered by big historical achievements such as the toppling of two terrorist regimes like Saddam and Taliban, such as freeing 50 million people in Iraq and Afghanistan, and such as crushing Al Qaeda terrorists with an utter defeat in Iraq.

For these big historical achievement President Bush is a great President and he will be remembered as such few decades from now.

14 posted on 07/31/2008 5:45:09 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: Kaslin

The best since 9/11 at most.


15 posted on 07/31/2008 5:49:49 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: death2tyrants
You appear to be trying to paint them all with a broad brush, which is delusional.

And the only Islams you mention... are the ones who are “weak of faith”. Make no mistake... the religion itself gives validation/vindication to its most fervent and violent members.

16 posted on 07/31/2008 6:17:29 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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“And the only Islams you mention... are the ones who are “weak of faith”.”

Al-Qaeda would agree.


17 posted on 07/31/2008 7:04:09 AM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Kaslin
Building a very large embassy in the middle of the ME and it will be eyes and ears in the region. Maybe we will be better informed before the next 911 attempt. U.S. military has gained crucial expertise on tribal counterinsurgency. Retraining the leadership of our military is tremendous value. If we come out of this war with nothing more it would be worth the cost in lives and treasure.
18 posted on 07/31/2008 7:43:18 AM PDT by TUX
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I remember when Phil Simms was ending the near of his career with the Giants. John Madden said that Giant fans would not appreciate him until he was gone. He was right. the same will prove true for Dubya. History will prove him right.

I understand political disagreements, but there is this rabid hatred of Bush that I cannot fathom. I was speaking to a liberal colleague the other day and stated that he would at least have to concede that Dubya was a decent family man with a wonderful family. I won't print his reply.

19 posted on 07/31/2008 8:12:29 AM PDT by MattinNJ (I can't sit this election out. Obama must be stopped.)
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To: johnny7

“The best president of this century” is currently correct. Most likely it will still be correct, no matter who wins the election this fall.


20 posted on 07/31/2008 8:31:22 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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