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Serbia: US has not asked for student's extradition
http://www.pr-inside.com/serbia-us-has-not-asked-for-r740577.htm ^

Posted on 08/06/2008 5:04:11 AM PDT by kronos77

2008-08-06 11:11:02 -

BELGRADE, Serbia (AP) - Serbia's Justice Ministry says it has received no formal U.S. request to extradite or prosecute a Serb student wanted on assault charges in New York. U.S. police say 20-year-old Miladin Kovacevic severely beat fellow college student Bryan Steinhauer during a bar fight in May and then fled to Serbia in June to avoid prosecution. Washington reportedly has demanded that Serbia return Kovacevic by Aug. 1.

But Serbian Justice Ministry says in a statement released Wednesday the United States has not made a formal request for Kovacevic's extradition to the U.S. or trial in Serbia. The ministry says «it is of utmost importance that this case be concluded as soon as possible.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; balkans; justice; kovacevic; serbia

1 posted on 08/06/2008 5:04:11 AM PDT by kronos77
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To: Dragonfly; MadelineZapeezda; Mamzelle; philosofy123; DestroyEraseImprove; TheCrusader; Banat; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/06/2008 5:04:36 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

Probably the same group who did not properly handle the extradition of the Mexican who killed the border patrol agent a few months ago. The most recent thing I read is that the perp is now free!


3 posted on 08/06/2008 5:07:24 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: Joann37

Free? He’s been signed on to play basketball- in the open, brazenly flaunting our requests... Serbia should do the right thing... Lately, they’ve shown great strides in moving towards the West... Let’s hope this trend continues, so they can prosper the way Slovenia and Croatia have started


4 posted on 08/06/2008 5:17:24 AM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- Vote for McCain)
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To: Joann37

I believe the authorities took his passport, and the Serbian government issued him an emergency one then whisked him away back home.


5 posted on 08/06/2008 5:22:14 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: kronos77
U.S. police say 20-year-old Miladin Kovacevic severely beat fellow college student Bryan Steinhauer during a bar fight in May and then fled to Serbia in June to avoid prosecution

Should read 'alledgedly beat'....but the media has this case tried and convicted already. Yes, he should return to face a jury but I doubt he would recieve a fair trail.

6 posted on 08/06/2008 6:07:21 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda ( MUST SEE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkgHkxIfgBc)
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To: kronos77
As there is no extradition treaty between the US and Serbia, extradition paperwork, and the lack thereof, is meaningless.

We simply expect the Serbian to honor the obligations undertaken in its name by their representative in New York, Igor Milosevic.

We expect the Serbian government to act on that notice and to fulfill the obligations that were undertaken by their representatives, by the consul and vice consul in New York when he signed the bail document committing to produce Kovačević in court. source

7 posted on 08/06/2008 6:54:00 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: kronos77

Serbia’s Justice Ministry says it has received no formal U.S. request to extradite or prosecute a Serb student


That’s the least the US can do. If I were his parents I would not want my son to be sent to a lynch mob atmosphere either.

And given that the US under Clintonistas broke every law in the book during the 90s I don’t blame them for not trusting the legal system here.


8 posted on 08/06/2008 7:06:11 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: NYC Republican

Drivel as usual. Moving towards the west? You really must learn to define your terms.

If you mean by West the indiscriminate bombing breaking all international laws - then who needs to be “west”...except the nazis and Clintonistas and Muslims.

Culturally Serbia has been “west” far longer than “western” Europeans. As part of the Eastern Roman Empire centered on Constantinople Serbia was far more advanced than the brutish Euros living in western europe following the fall of Rome.


9 posted on 08/06/2008 7:13:24 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Should read 'alledgedly beat'....but the media has this case tried and convicted already. Yes, he should return to face a jury but I doubt he would recieve a fair trail.

Having read the details in numerous places, I think a rope will probably suffice in the end.

Kovacevic should get a real trial, it goes without saying, but the kid who got beaten into a coma weighed 135, and the Serbian goes about 280, as I recall. The Serbian's family has not denied he was in the fight, or alleged that the guy beaten was armed, or that he posed a threat in any other way. Given those uncontested basics, there is nothing the victim could have done to justify what the Serbian did.

My guess is that the Serbians' mistrust of our justice system has less to do with bombs Clinton dropped when Kovacevic was 10 years old, and more to do with the fact that he's probably very guilty of playing Cain to another student's Abel.

10 posted on 08/06/2008 7:32:20 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: OA5599
I believe the authorities took his passport, and the Serbian government issued him an emergency one then whisked him away back home.

It is my understanding that he was issued an emergency passport by an embassy official who has since been disciplined by the Serbian government.

I believe he made his own way out of the country, not whisked away aboard some Serbian government plane.

11 posted on 08/06/2008 7:34:30 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: eleni121

Oh really? Come on, stop with that Krap. They’re so closely aligned with Russia, it’s pathetic... Giving up Karadzic was a very positive move forward...


12 posted on 08/06/2008 7:37:41 AM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- Vote for McCain)
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To: F-117A

Maybe so. I just remember it from the nightly news. Maybe they sexed it up. But I didn’t mean to infer it was a Serbian government plane. Just that they bought him a ticket and escorted him to the airport, if I remember the news correctly.


13 posted on 08/06/2008 7:46:17 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: kronos77

Why would the US make such a request when it’s the policy for Serbia to not extradite its citizens?

Senator Schumer is reportedly calling for a suspension of foreign aid to Serbia until they turn over Kovacevic. I don’t think it’s going to happen. The best we can hope for is a trial in Serbia. I don’t see them willfully turning him over anytime soon.


14 posted on 08/06/2008 7:54:41 AM PDT by mjustice
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I am a fan of Serbia as much as the next true conservative. Any enemy of the muslims is a friend of mine, but come on this is ridiculous. I've been following this story on FR since the beginning and I can't believe there are so many folks here who are blindly Pro-Serbia. It's the same group of people who parrot the same tired line: “*Sqauwk*Serbia can do no wrong. It's all MSM bias.*Squawk*"

Kovacevic is a dirt bag. A real man knows if you out weigh the other fella by 150 you give him the old outstretched palm on the forehead and watch the guy swing at air. Then you signal the bouncer to get the guy out of their. Even if Kovacevic let his anger get the best of him and did something completely out of character, a real man would face the consequences. Anything else is positively Clintonian.

15 posted on 08/06/2008 12:03:26 PM PDT by NYCynic
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To: SamuraiScot; All

Your facts are wrong as are most impulsive posters on this.

The fight started between Bryan Steinhauer and the boyfriend(Sanel Softic) of the girl, not Kovacevic.

The boyfriend who is a BOSNIAN MUSLIM along with the third man charged in the beating and was angry with Steinhauer for following them around (him and his girlfriend) and getting too close. Sanel accused him of grabbing her rear end. They started shouting at each other and according to Softic AND the girlfriend, Steinhauer HEAD BUTTED Sanel and gave him a bloody nose. Kovacevic intervened after this and was hit on the side of the head by STEINHAUSER.

EVERYONE HAS CLAIMED THAT Steinhauer was drunk and aggressive, but the police WON’T RELEASE his blood alcohol levels which would prove/disprove this accusation.


16 posted on 08/06/2008 12:52:52 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: NYC Republican

No you stop with the outdated paranoid baloney!

Alligned with Russia? That is a good thing!

The greatest Christian intellectual of the 20th century - Solzhenitisyn - was very admiring of Putin and of course Russia.


17 posted on 08/06/2008 12:57:22 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: eleni121
according to Softic AND the girlfriend, Steinhauer HEAD BUTTED Sanel and gave him a bloody nose. Kovacevic intervened after this and was hit on the side of the head by STEINHAUSER.

Even if we could take the assertions of the accused and the girlfriend at face value, there's the problem of "credible threat." If I start with the claims you attribute to them, I still can't make a credible case for a couple of big guys stomping a guy while he's out on the ground. All I can say is, if a friend and I did that to somebody—unless our opponent had been attacking me with a lethal weapon that he still possessed—I'd rightly be indicted for attempted murder.

Do you have a link that backs up the story of Steinhauer being a danger to society? I've seen accounts that said he danced with the girl; that he groped the girl, or the guys thought he had, but the girl says he hadn't; and so on. The closest to your analysis I can find is on Pravda.ru, which has typical posters saying things like this concerning the story, which I'm presuming you don't endorse:

"The faggot was a jew, you can't touch the gods without the whole jew government come down on you."

18 posted on 08/06/2008 1:44:56 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SamuraiScot

The only credible threat is the threat that Kovacevic would get railroaded in court given the fact that the other two who did the beating got only 10,000 bail and he got 100,000. Sounds fishy to me. And given that the yellow scandal mongering press is trying and convicting Kovacevic in print is another reason for his getting the heck out of here.

Who said anything about Stinhauser being a threat to society? Need a pair of reading glasses maybe or just spouting things off the top of your head?

Your weird analysis befits the Natl. Enquirer and the NYSlime machine.


19 posted on 08/06/2008 2:03:39 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: eleni121
Your weird analysis befits the Natl. Enquirer and the NYSlime machine.

The ad hominem stuff seems over the top.

My weird analysis is based on compliance training for law enforcement and peace officers, which is based in turn on case law in New York State. The "threat to society" phrase was not idly chosen: If it's true that Steinhauer had attacked someone, the only basis for continuing action against him once he was down would be that he continued to pose a threat of immediate physical harm to others.

Once a guy is down and doesn't have a deadly weapon which he's in a position to use, and you continue to use potentially deadly force against him, you could be looking at an attempted murder charge.

20 posted on 08/06/2008 2:45:53 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: eleni121

You Serb-apologists are shameless!!! And the Russia thing? Go scratch. Their govt is sKum... You can have them


21 posted on 08/06/2008 3:55:57 PM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- Vote for McCain)
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To: SamuraiScot

Fine and dandy.

But when people are not pointing fingers at the Big guy...and the big guy gets 10 times the bail the other guys do...something is wrong...very wrong...insidiously wrong.

He did the right thing to skeddadle out.


22 posted on 08/06/2008 5:29:06 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: NYC Republican

You sound frustrated...the truth deos that to those who do not think but just emote.

Sputtering and spewing inane things gets you nowhere fast.

Logic is my friend but your weakness is a misplaced and illogical hate for the Russian people.


23 posted on 08/06/2008 5:32:33 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: eleni121

Nice... Way to misrepresent and lie... I don’t hate the Russian people, dolt. I hate the Russian government... Re-read my post


24 posted on 08/06/2008 8:19:49 PM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- Vote for McCain)
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To: eleni121

Your story is a JOKE... Jeez, what a lying SACK OF SHIITE post... These are FReepers here, do you think we’re stupid? Take that sophomoric propoganda elsewhere... Pathetic


25 posted on 08/06/2008 8:22:29 PM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- Vote for McCain)
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To: NYC Republican

Judging from your ignorant and lurid responses it is obvious that you are stuck on stupid.


26 posted on 08/07/2008 5:02:39 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: eleni121

Nice comeback TROLL.... How original, loser... Your lies and propoganda are almost as good ad you hero, Slobo


27 posted on 08/07/2008 7:01:10 AM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- Vote for McCain)
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To: NYC Republican

Goebbels and Mohamed would have enjoyed your shared views.


28 posted on 08/07/2008 7:20:37 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: eleni121

Nice comeback TROLL.... How original, loser... Your lies and propoganda are almost as good ad you hero, Slobo


29 posted on 08/07/2008 9:04:09 AM PDT by NYC Republican (Infuriate the MSM- Vote for McCain)
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To: kronos77

If I were a Serb, I wouldn’t come to the US for a trial...not unless I was a muslim Serb from Bosnia. America is hostile to Serbs-—period.


30 posted on 08/07/2008 5:24:22 PM PDT by Celebratelife008
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To: Celebratelife008

America is hostile to Serbs.


This is the ultinmate irony — that our stupid and immoral policies have brought us to.

We support our traditional enemies and give the boot to those who stood by us in WWII.


31 posted on 08/08/2008 4:57:35 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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