Skip to comments.Obama birth certificate has been REMOVED from "Fight the Smears" site...well, well...
Posted on 08/09/2008 10:37:19 AM PDT by dascallie
The much vaunted "AUTHENTIC" BIRTH CERTIFICATE image has gone missing from Obama;s site...
Posted at HRC forum today below.....
Today, 01:04 PM
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The question remains of why Obama refuses to provide a paper copy of his COLB that can be ordered online and delivered in 4-6 weeks for pete's sake! This has been haunting him for a year, why won't he just make it go away?
Here is where Obama (or any immediate family member) can order up his COLB https://www.ehawaii.gov/doh/vitrec/exe/vitrec.cgi
Because of his avoiding, I do think he has a citizenship problem.
We all know that the KOS document is a fake and that most likely it's a doctored version of Obama's sister's COLB. SO, either:
He was NOT born in Hawaii, there are theories about Canada.
PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE - It discusses his mother's trip to Mercer Island and his father possibly trying to get custody and the GOP digging up Obama's Kenyan citizenship. http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.p...7-14&ID=244223
But I'm leaning more towards the Kenyan theory.
OH, and NEWSFLASH: Obama has TAKEN DOWN the fake birth certificate on his Fight the smears page. The Birth Certificate section is TOTALLY GONE
Hate to break it to you, Sport, but it’s still on his site:
Hmmmm...that post came from Hilary Clinton Forum.net...wonder why she says otherwise?
It wasn’t Hillary herself who said it, if that’s what you’re suggesting. Whoever posted that simply didn’t bother to check if it’s true or not.
You can go to www.fightthesmears.com and there’s a link on the left for the birth certificate.
Obe’s in HI looking for it now.
From the article, I found this quote VERY interesting:
In an interview that aired on ABCs World News Tonight Bill Clinton denied that he is angry at Barack Obama, but offered very little in terms of an endorsement and enthusiasm for the Democratic nominee.
Clinton denied that he is still angry, Im not, and I never was mad at Senator Obama. I think everybodys got a right to run for president if he qualifies under the Constitution,...
Hmmm....IF HE QUALIFIES UNDER THE CONSTITUTION????
Don’t you think you should have checked out whether this was true or not before you posted this thread?
> Because of his avoiding, I do think he has a citizenship problem.
Unlikely. He might have a “natural born” citizenship problem.
So does McCain. He even went to the Senate Judiciary
Committee about it.
More likely, there is just something embarrassing on the COLB,
like no father’s name, or BHO2’s middle name used to be
Mugabe, Mohammed, Megido or something.
The next move (from the Official Kerry SF180 Playbook),
is to “release” the record in question, but only to
reliable in-the-tank media pals.
What do you mean, rumors about Canada?
Surely his mother’s location at the time of his birth can be established through travel and hospital records. It’s not like she had a lot of money to jet around the world. There would be many living witnesses to her presence in Hawaii at the end of her pregnancy.
What I found interesting was the link about the GOP team going to Indonesia and Kenya. If they get anything even remotely suggesting Obama was registered somewhere with the word “muslim” on the document, or as amazing as a Birth Record or citizenship paper.....wow. The mother of all October Surprises?
In all seriousness, if they find something that brings up dual citizenship, that is going to create chaos.
I remember during the primaries, there were reports that she would implore leading Democrats, particularly the super delegates, with the phrase "He simply cannot win the election."
At the time I thought she was just fear-mongering over race, but I'm beginning to think she knows something about the eligibility question.
Yes, this is going to be quite interesting.
You don’t put one past the Clintonistas , that’s for sure. If it’s out there, they have it!
This could be put to rest quickly. Why isn’t it?
However, there are so many issues, so little time.
He’s hired OJ’s private detectives for the job; he’ll have the COLB any minute now.
The Clintons want the Repblicans to break “the inconvenient truth”.
I thought OJ worked alone, but was on the job working harder than ever before, 24/7, for the American people and for the children.
We should know within a couple of weeks. She will need to release any info she may have before the convention. This will probably be leaked to a conservative/Republican source so she can avoid any criticism.
It would certainly mean rioting in Denver, but it looks like we will be getting that from the Recreate68 nutjobs regardless.
Maybe his true birth certificate lists JOHN EDWARDS as his Father...
would have saved myself some time if I scrolled down first. But I did the same as you and also discovered that it is still there. Which goes to show, you and I are both too smart to believe a Hillary blogger.
.....and then there was one.
McCain has no natural born citizenship problem. Both McCain’s parents were US Citizens. McCain’s father was serving in the armed forces of the USA at the time of his birth. US law at the time clearly gave McCain citizenship by virtue of his parents ctizenship (both of them). US tradition has ALWAYS accorded full uncontested citizenship to the children of married American servicemen stationed abroad.
By the way, if this is NOT the case than every American citizen serving abroad in our military needs to demand being sent home as soon as their wife (or themselves) is pregnant to provide full rights to their child.
But they don’t because as I said the law at the time, the law now and American tradition are all clear.
It is MUCH less clear that a 19 year old girl goes to Kenya to give birth to her shack-ups kid, who is a Kenyan that the child of such an illicit relationship is a US citizen.
Especially circa 1960 when Obama was born, we still were a society where concepts like honor, duty, fidelity, the importance of marraige vows were more than occassionally revived marketing slogans. They were the lifeblood of our laws, traditions and customs.
Obama’s Mom was clearly outside the mainstream, far outside it, in 1960. McCain’s parents, at the time of his birth on the Panama Canal Zone were fully in the middle of the social norms of the time.
The AMAZING thing is that the NY Times already tried to run this bullshit claim up the flagpole in the A section of the paper. They even got some usual suspects, liberal academics who will always go to be for some lefty smear campaign, to go along with this calumy. I believe it was Turley who was the quoted stooge. (I bet he’s a SC nominee under the Messiah).
Meanwhile, like the Edwards story, the MSM has scrupulously avoided dealing with this at all. Hmmm. Where there is smoke, is there fire?
Yes....the Clintons will feed the Obama BC info to the Pubbies and they will run with it and get SLAUGHTERED.
KJC1: Dont you think you should have checked out whether this was true or not before you posted this thread?
As something as important as this and dascallie, you post a totally inaccurate suppostition stated as fact. You need to address this forum about your misrepresentation.
I would think it would be standard protocal around here to check facts first...I realize mistakes can be made, bu there is no excuse for not checking first.
thanks for a first good laugh today!!
I think the Birth Certificate issue is being saved for the DNC.
Apologies..i just pasted in another bloggers post-—not a good practice without vetting I now see—she did include other interesting tidbits however
That is their fondest wish.
Thanks again for correcting your report.
Ann remember you saying how careful we should be with this information? Don't ever put it past the DBM/dems to feed false info.
Obama thread might be of interest:
Note the form number notation in the lower left corner of this 1961 "birth certificate" - "OHSM 1.1 (Rev.11/01) Laser"
The laser wasn't invented until 1960 and certainly wasn't used in printers until 1969 when the Xerox laser printer was invented.
This is a fake.
It’s in the same envelope with Kerry’s DD-214.
Wouldn’t it be cool if hillary gave the goodies to Rush!
Obama should be Required to Prove he was Not born in Kenya, Canada, the Soviet Union, France, Germany, Greece, China, Japan or any Other Nation than the United States before he is allowed to take the Oath of Office.
You do realize you can get replacement birth certificates?
With all the COLB controversy, it is apparently tougher to play Little League than run for POTUS.
Nobody has ever said this was a copy of the original 1961 BC, but that it’s a copy of a later ordered duplicate BC. For example I don’t have my original BC instead I have a duplicate I ordered from vital records in the 90’s. This “copy” was actually printed in June 2007 it looks like (reverse the imprinted date from the back)...well after the laser printer was invented, so that is a null issue.
The issue is that this fake BC was photoshopped and it is actually his sister’s birth certificate with data changed to represent it as Obama’s.
It is rather interesting he would take a break right now from campaigning.
How would you prove the following?
I didn't get the package.
He never telephoned me.
I wasn't born in Kenya.
I don't think anyone is going to disqualify him for not having one.
In fact I have no idea who is the final arbiter of whether or not a presidential candidate is a natural born U.S. citizen and what the official legal process would be to challenge someone's citizenship in running for president.
I don't think it's been remotely an issue in modern history. And I would doubt that more than 1/3rd of Americans know that you have to be a native-born citizen to be President.
I just posted this link, that I happened across, on another thread. It poses a number of possibilities. The post is long, so I won’t paste it here. Check it out:
You would think that Obama would have had to show a birth certificate before 2007 for something - passport, new job, clearance, etc. And if the point was to refute claims of legitimacy, wouldn’t you want to try to show the original, or at least an earlier official copy?
That may be the most detailed Message Board Post in history. I found the part about “imaginary characters” in his book interesting...I haven’t heard that before.