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Things you might not know about Barack Obama (Holds Kenyan since 1963 citizenship)
Rocky Mountain News ^ | Wednesday, August 6, 2008

Posted on 08/09/2008 11:36:41 AM PDT by Red Steel

Entered Harvard Law School in 1988, was elected the first African–American editor of the Harvard Law Review. He graduated magna cum laude in 1991.

Won two Grammys for Best Spoken Word Albums for an autobiography in 1995 "Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance" and his second book, "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream," published in October 2006.

Mother Ann Dunham died of ovarian cancer in 1995. Father Barack Obama Sr. was killed in a car wreck in 1982.

Spent four years in his stepfather’s native country of Indonesia.

Is the fifth African-American senator in U.S. history

Is the first presidential candidate to come from Hawaii.

Favorite movies: "The Godfather" (Parts I and II) and "Lawrence of Arabia."

In his early years he was known as Barry.

According to his memoirs, he admitted using alcohol, marijuana and cocaine in his youth.

His first name comes from the word that means "blessed by God" in Arabic.

At his wife's suggestion, he quit smoking before his campaign to win the Democratic nomination began.

Holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship.

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1 posted on 08/09/2008 11:36:42 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

According to a post I saw yesterday, the Kenyan constitution clearly states that a foreign national obtaining Kenyan citizenship must renounce that foreign citizenship in order to be a Kenyan citizen. Therefore, the only way Obama legally could be a Kenyan would be for him to have renounced his US citizenship. This needs to be looked into.


2 posted on 08/09/2008 11:40:30 AM PDT by nailspitter
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To: nailspitter

He renounced his US citizenship at 2 years old. Pretty thin.


3 posted on 08/09/2008 11:42:50 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Here come the Hawks)
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To: nailspitter

Aha! Hillary may be up to something.


4 posted on 08/09/2008 11:43:14 AM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: SolidWood
The Clinton minions who own The National Enquirer took out Edwards......the Clinton minions will take out Obama on the Birth Certificate/Citizenship scandal also.......

....and then there was one.....

5 posted on 08/09/2008 11:49:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Ha! No longer ‘The One’, just ‘One’ left. Or just ‘One Leftist Left’.


6 posted on 08/09/2008 11:51:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: sharkhawk

Actually all he would had to do was renounce it before he lost his Kenyan Citizenship on one of his many trips there.

As has been pointed out to me in various COLB threads The US does not recognize renouncing your US citizenship if you continue to use a US passport like in the case of Marc Rich who became a Spanish Citizen and renounced his US citizenship to escape justice here in the US.


7 posted on 08/09/2008 11:55:57 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Red Steel

1.) COLB
Proven fake by more than one source
2.) Sketchy childhood
We know some details - Lots of gaps
3.) College thesis has vanished
Was it anything like Michele’s?
4.) Overseas travel
Pakistan? Why?
5.) Law records
What cases did he represent?
6.) Senate records disappeared
What was he trying to hide?
7.) Associations
Rev Wright, Ayers, Michele etc.
8.) Senate voting record
That speaks for itself
9.) SCOTUS
10) I’m clinging to my guns and religion

Ten reasons not to vote for Obama
A vote for McCain is a vote against Obama


8 posted on 08/09/2008 12:02:51 PM PDT by mouse1 (I'VE BEEN CALLED A REDNECK BIGOT AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!)
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To: nailspitter; All
It's near impossible to look into any of this stuff. Seems the web has undergone some serious scrubbing! There are lots of "dark" pages out there.

His birth certificate is bogus we know that thanks to polarik and techdude,primarily techdude, who is a forensics expert.The work they did on Atlas shrugs and Texas darlin' is incomparable.

Chances are real good, he is at the very least, a dual citizen if not Kenya(back then all muslim born babies born in other countries were automatically registered as born in the country of their father) than possibly canada or indonesia where his name was Barry Souterra(sp) It's my understanding that the constitution allows a dual citizen to run for the office of President but not actually hold the office(yeah I know sounds spastic but that's what I read and no I don't have the link handy).

Our best bet is that Hillary and bubba already have a handy dandy plan for bamby.

9 posted on 08/09/2008 12:05:06 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Ann Archy

I agree, but also I am wondering what they are waiting for.


10 posted on 08/09/2008 12:05:55 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Red Steel

Forget the citizen angle - it’s a non-starter.

What is more intriguing is that Obama has never released any of his grades - at Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard.

When it comes to intelligence, which his followers and the media say is genius level, there is no actual measure as to how smart (dumb?) this moron really is. All they fall back on is that he was President of the Harvard Law Review, which was not determined by grades, but PC considerations (like we need a black pronto!).

His real intelligence is marked by “57 states” and “tire pressure” and his “uncle liberating Auschwitz”.

Start demanding Obama release his grades.


11 posted on 08/09/2008 12:07:20 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Red Steel
Is the fifth African-American senator in U.S. history

And only the 2nd Democrat one, I believe. The other 3 would have been Republicans.

12 posted on 08/09/2008 12:07:55 PM PDT by Defiant (Democrats complained that the war was for oil. Now they make war ON oil.)
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To: nailspitter
That would follow if only one were to accept as fact that Barry is a U.S. citizen to begin with. The Borg Queen isn't done her scheming yet. I bought an extra box of kettle corn just for those anticipated fireworks. LOL


13 posted on 08/09/2008 12:08:37 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Barak Obama is as inept as a bear cub with his dink.)
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To: Red Steel

(Things you might not know about Barack Obama (Holds Kenyan since 1963 citizenship))

The only thing I know about Obama that matters is that he is an Anti-American Socialist.
After that, nothing he says or does from this point forward would ever make him acceptable as President of the United States of America.


14 posted on 08/09/2008 12:09:25 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: mouse1
"God D@MN @MERICA!"

To say he wasn't aware of this man's ideology after 20 years is akin to Bart Simpson saying he didn't do it. Obama is a liar.

15 posted on 08/09/2008 12:10:41 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: rodguy911

Perhaps the drama of Denver. Remember they feel like they have been dissed by the party so what better way to even the score? This isn’t about winning this is all about them.


16 posted on 08/09/2008 12:13:35 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: rodguy911

Perhaps the drama of Denver. Remember they feel like they have been dissed by the party so what better way to even the score? This isn’t about winning this is all about them.


17 posted on 08/09/2008 12:13:43 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Red Steel

In the BIG Picture none of this stuff matters.
The point is enough American Citizens voted for a person that is anti American, considers themselves to be a “world citizen” and is a socialist come wannabe Communist by ideology and agenda.
He is just a person, he may come and he may go, but the fact remains that we had that5 many American voters willing to destroy their own Nation..........


18 posted on 08/09/2008 12:15:16 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: eyedigress

Obama’s racism runs deep. Great article at littlegreenfootballs about his community activist days.
As long as you have affirmative action, quotas, apologies and “deeds not words”, the black community will never live up to their full potential and always have a sense of entitlement.


19 posted on 08/09/2008 12:15:28 PM PDT by mouse1 (I'VE BEEN CALLED A REDNECK BIGOT AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!)
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To: Red Steel

He quit smoking ? when did this happen ?


20 posted on 08/09/2008 12:20:45 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Red Steel

When did he (if he ever did) register with the SSS?


21 posted on 08/09/2008 12:23:52 PM PDT by Roccus (Someday it'll all make sense.....maybe.)
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To: Red Steel

“Holds both American and Kenyan (since 1963) citizenship.”

What happened to his Indonesian citizenship?


22 posted on 08/09/2008 12:24:44 PM PDT by devere
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To: mouse1

Don’t tease us. Post the link.


23 posted on 08/09/2008 12:25:40 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: mouse1

I am sick of the idiots in this Country that listen to anything that rips at the fundamental fabric of America.

Meanwhile Putin is on the move to bring back the USSR and the idiots here just say “change”.

Good Lord help us.


24 posted on 08/09/2008 12:27:30 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Red Steel

I just came across this...it is quite long, so I won’t post it here, but it covers many different possibilities. Maybe someone with legal experience could check it out.

http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=560797&articleId=729220&func=6&channel=News+AOL+Managed&filterRead=false&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false

One thing that caught my attention:

He has never explicitly renounced his Kenyan Citizenship and is therefore a Dual Citizen and almost certainly ineligible for the Presidency of the USA. Also Under the British Nationality Act 1948 Barack Hussein Obama, Jr, was born a British Subject since his father held a British Passport and was a Subject of the British Crown. His place of Birth and the Nationality of his mother would be irrelevant since, at that time, British Nationality was transmitted via the father. The only factor that would invalidate this would be that his parents were not legally married. If, in fact, his father Registered his Birth in Mombasa it would provide bona fide evidence that Barack Hussein Obama, Snr, intended his son to have British, or Kenyan, and not US Citizenship. If he did the legitimacy clause in the 1948 Act would cease to apply. Subsequently Barack Senior became a Kenyan Citizen (at Kenyan Independence) and, according to Kenyan Law so did his son, if his Birth was Registered in Mombasa. There would also appear to be evidence that his mother acquired Indonesian Nationality when she married his stepfather and that he did too.


25 posted on 08/09/2008 12:27:46 PM PDT by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr. The man on my POW bracelet.)
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To: Red Steel

Quit smoking?? I heard he still indulges in tobacco. I guess the media doesn’t want to make that widely known, either. The ObamaMessiah blazing up makes him subject to “harming the children” charges and “in bed with Big Tobacco”.


26 posted on 08/09/2008 12:33:54 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: moonpie57

All that matter is.......was he born in the United States? All this kenya, Indonesia, British fluff doesn’t mean anything if he was born in Hawaii.


27 posted on 08/09/2008 12:45:54 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: rodguy911
" .. possibly canada or indonesia where his name was Barry Souterra(sp)."

?????????????

This is new to me ... Another Cassius Clay/Mohamad Ali ?

28 posted on 08/09/2008 12:48:46 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: devere
What happened to his Indonesian citizenship?

Obama may have one of those too.

Remember, he spoke in Berlin of being a "World citizen."

29 posted on 08/09/2008 12:48:51 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Recovering_Democrat
QUIT SMOKING? I THINK NOT.Photobucket
30 posted on 08/09/2008 12:49:57 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: mouse1

What senate records have disappeared?


31 posted on 08/09/2008 12:51:12 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: Red Steel
"His first name comes from the word that means "blessed by God" in Arabic."

No it doesn't- "Allah" is not Arabic for 'god' Allah is the Islamic gods NAME. "ilah" is the Arabic word for 'god".

"Barak" (no c) means "to bless" or "blessing". There is no "by a god' anywhere in his name.

Hussien means "good looking" or "handsome". If anything his name is something a conceited person would call himself.

For it to mean blessed by (allah) it would be something like Barak abdallah (blessed slave of Allah) or Barak Abdilah (blessed slave of ilah (god))

32 posted on 08/09/2008 12:53:16 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Red Steel

Obama...Does he pledge allegence to the flag of Kenya or the USA? Where is his heart?


33 posted on 08/09/2008 12:53:39 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: knarf
Second husband of Stanley Ann Dunham.

Lolo Soetoro.

34 posted on 08/09/2008 12:54:58 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: rodguy911

“It’s near impossible to look into any of this stuff. Seems the web has undergone some serious scrubbing! There are lots of “dark” pages out there.”

Yes. Kind of like looking for the British Imam video about how ‘they’ are ‘going to turn the WHite House into the Black House’ or Mansoor Ijaz’s statements on how he briefed Bill AND HILLARY about Osama Bin Laden in Sudan & Sudan’s offer to hand Bin Laden over to the US. Ijaz’ testimony went behind closed doors during the whole 9/11 charade testimony with Gorelick present & preventing truth.


35 posted on 08/09/2008 12:58:57 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: stylin19a

He quit but has admitted to restarting, although much less frequently, in recent months. (And the photo of him with a cigarette dangling from his lip is a photoshop. I’ve seen posted on many forums the original and the photoshop side-by-side. They not only added the cigarette, they darkened him quite a bit.)


36 posted on 08/09/2008 1:00:26 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: rodguy911

They are hoping the Republicans drop the shoe; that way their hands are clean. If the Republicans don’t, they will, and try to make it look like the Republicans did; that way their hands are clean.


37 posted on 08/09/2008 1:04:42 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: oldbill

Remember how the MSM touted the Goron’s “genius” when he ran against Bush...what a joke that turned out to be.


38 posted on 08/09/2008 1:06:23 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Maybe he will pick up an authentic, certified copy of his birth certificate while he is on vacation in Hawaii.


39 posted on 08/09/2008 1:06:49 PM PDT by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr. The man on my POW bracelet.)
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To: Red Steel

Dual citizenship? Granholm (Mi Gov) has dual citizenship and that’s why she could never run for Pres..Well that and the fact she was born in Canada. Canada allows dual citizenship but does US?


40 posted on 08/09/2008 1:08:53 PM PDT by queenkathy (I will never give up and I will never give in)
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To: Texas Songwriter
"Obama...Does he pledge allegence to the flag of Kenya or the USA? Where is his heart?"

He regularly called himself an "African-American". That tells you where his heart is. Hyphenated-American hold an allegiance to another country.

Hyphenated-Americans are for those immigrants who are in their first generation of tenure here in America and haven't yet become true Americans. If and when they become true Americans they will find that they have no need to continue to tie themselves, via hyphenation, to their past national origins and ancestry.

Hyphenation raises the specter of nationalistic allegiance to a country OTHER THAN America. To most Americans that possibility is repugnant and traitorous. As for those of us who prefer to remain just 'plain' Americans, we do so because we know that we already possess the most valued status symbol in the world, that of being an American citizen, desired by many and consider to be the pinnacle of national identity! Actually we are quite 'smug' and proud about that fact. Why would we ever want to change and become something less?

41 posted on 08/09/2008 1:11:23 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: queenkathy
Canada allows dual citizenship but does US?

Yes.

42 posted on 08/09/2008 1:13:31 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: oldbill
When it comes to intelligence, which his followers and the media say is genius level, there is no actual measure as to how smart (dumb?) this moron really is.

The article in this thread says he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School. I've always heard that only the top 10% of students in a law school qualify to be on the law review.

43 posted on 08/09/2008 1:13:39 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: moonpie57
He has never explicitly renounced his Kenyan Citizenship and is therefore a Dual Citizen...

According to the Kenyan Constitution, when he turned 21 Obama would have had to renounce his American citizenship and if he did not then his Kenyan citizenship was voided.

...and almost certainly ineligible for the Presidency of the USA.

Incorrect. Article II of the Constitution gives eligibility for president. Obama qualifies.

Also Under the British Nationality Act 1948 Barack Hussein Obama, Jr, was born a British Subject since his father held a British Passport and was a Subject of the British Crown.

Superceded by the Kenya Constitution adopted in 1963. Under that, all who were considered colonial subjects became Kenyan citizens.

There would also appear to be evidence that his mother acquired Indonesian Nationality when she married his stepfather and that he did too.

Highly unlikely.

44 posted on 08/09/2008 1:23:33 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Red Steel
The Truth Hurts. And the Truth About Barry Obama Hurts the Most. Barry Obama IS shallow, out of his depth, is elitist with a wife who complains about spending $10,000 a year on after school activities for their children, who earns more than 90% of the US working population and 99% more than the world's population and still complains about having to repay student loans they were eligible for probably only because of Affirmative Action.

Barry Obama wants voters to think that because as a CHILD he lived in Indonesia he is an "expert" in foreign affairs. But the TRUTH is that he won't explain why his step-father Lolo Soetoro enrolled him in both Primary Schools in Jakarta, Indonesia, as "Barry Soetoro, Indonesian Citizen, Islam Religion." Barry Obama wants people to think that he's a Natural Born US Citizen, BUT HE HAS FAILED TO PRODUCE A CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE. For all the US Voters know, he was born in Indonesia and adopted by Lolo Soetoro. Why would Lolo Soetoro lie when he enrolled Barry in school?????????

For some unknown psychological reason, Barry Dunham Soetoro (Obama) decided when he was in school as Barry Soetoro that he wanted to be President of some Country. And for some reason, unbeknownst to anyone other than himself and possibly his mother, he or they decided that the easiest Country to manipulate for that end would be the United States. Barry Dunham Soetoro (Obama) could not be President of Indonesia or Kenya because his step-father was not a high official in the government of Indonesia and his birth-father had gone out of favor in Kenya due to his drunken behavior among other political events there. So the closest relative, Raila Odinga, the Marxist Kenyan, was given a million dollars to aid him in his quest for Presidency of Kenya. How that was or will affect Barry Soetoro (Obama) is unknown at present. And Barry Dunham Soetoro (Obama) wrote his books and manipulated his personal history in order for him not to have to answer the hard questions of his life. Where WAS he born? Is he a Natural Born US Citizen? Is he "black" enough or is he Too Much Arab? Has he fooled the public with his "I am a christian" fable?

Barry Dunham Soetoro (Obama) is a celeb in the mold of the celeb "Karen Johnson." And that's all he is. He is not Presidential, he's a wanna be. (Do you know who Karen Johnson, the celebrity is?)


You know Karen Johnson as Whoopie Goldberg.
45 posted on 08/09/2008 1:24:11 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I'm voting for J.S.McCain because he didn't take any money from the Palestinians (like BHO did).)
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To: chris_bdba

Yeah could well be,but as I recall the CCF(Clinton Crime Family) are beyond sore losers,they are vengeful.


46 posted on 08/09/2008 1:30:44 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: Ann Archy
The Clinton minions who own The National Enquirer took out Edwards......

Kind of hard to believe that --knowing the the National Enquirer was the first media who broke the Monica Lewinsky Blue dress stain.

47 posted on 08/09/2008 1:34:17 PM PDT by Fawn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYbFQFXG0U)
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To: Peter Libra
OK ... So was he originally Barak Obama and was changed (adoption) to Soetoro ... or did he keep Obama and was just known as Soetoro ?
48 posted on 08/09/2008 1:37:51 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: moonpie57
Excellent post IMHO this could well be a smoking gun! Boma may be a tri citizen, Indonesian,U.S.and Kenyan. At the very least U.S. and Kenyan. In which case as I have read before he is eligible to run for the office of potus but not hold the office.
49 posted on 08/09/2008 1:42:18 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: knarf

Google his mothers name in Indonesia,he took that name for a number of years as well as “Barry.”


50 posted on 08/09/2008 1:43:24 PM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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